[JoeCool20]

I don't think I'll make this tourney!

top pair of kings, dude calls with the 2nd high board pair and then donks a 4 and shows J 4 to overcome my top pair!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

hey blowjoe, quit whining and complaining for once in your life, thanks!!

[JoeCool20]

hey blowjoe, quit whining and complaining for once in your life, thanks!!

LOL Hey blowjake, be congenial or just don't post! Even your dumb-ass should be able to do that!

But whatever you do, stop whining and complaining about others that you think are whining and complaining!

It makes you look like a total idiot/hypocrite fool dumb-ass!

[mpaschal34]

hey blowjoe, quit whining and complaining for once in your life, thanks!!

i think joefool is a better name.

[JoeCool20]

i think joefool is a better name.

LOL Another idiot who can't even be congenial on a sports chat forum! Where do you people come from?


Your mothers should be so proud of you! LOL

[JoeCool20]

i think joefool is a better name.

Yeah blowjake, jakefool, whatever. Some of y'all say the guy is cool, but he sure as hell aint "cool" to me! LOL

All the guy does is follow me around the board like a lost kitten, then he posts something negative or instigating!

OVER AND OVER like some infatuated stalker!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

joe after sbr poker every evening...

[Gaze73]

I open shoved QJs for 9 BB on the final table, guy called with J9o, caught trips. Fortunately karma caught up to him and he donked off his entire stack the next hand and I survived him with a couple hundred chips.

[JoeCool20]

joe after sbr poker every evening...

LOL I think that is funny!


But I have to say that if you "whine" or "cry" about getting donked in SBR poker then you're an idiot!

I've said it on here over a HUNDRED TIMES AT LEAST! This SBR Poker shit is a fukkin joke to me!

And I'm just having fun!

So WHY would Jake keep on saying that I'm "whining" or "crying" AFTER I have said 100 times that it's a joke?


Because he's an idiot! LOL

[JoeCool20]

I open shoved QJs for 9 BB on the final table, guy called with J9o, caught trips. Fortunately karma caught up to him and he donked off his entire stack the next hand and I survived him with a couple hundred chips.

LOL I just got donked so many times that I couldn't believe I had enough chips to keep getting donked like that!


Even another player couldn't believe the donking that was happening to me!

[JoeCool20]

LOL Donk update tonight. I get 66, go all in. Dude calls with A 10 off suit! LOL Flop comes Q 4 8 turn is a K.


Need I say the rest? OF COURSE he donks the miracle J on the river and a broadway straight on me! LOL


I've said a million times that this shit is for fun and a shot at free money!



But This "wild donk" shit is happening to me EVERY night! LOL

[ArunSh]

By your own request to post "donks", I'll post a good one here. I wouldn't care, but given the way you kept going on and on yesterday implying that I made a bad play going allin with "just a draw" which is totally ridiculous (you felt the need to keep spouting on this even though you won the hand lol). And if that wasn't enough, you felt the need to PM me today to emphasize this further...lol.

I guess pointing out to you that you actually are a slight underdog when the chips went in isn't going to sway your opinion either. But since you don't get it, I'd like some others to comment. Not that I care really - I know 100% I played the hand totally correctly, but since Joe won't accept reality, maybe a few others can confirm that he's out of his mind implying that it was wrong for me to go allin here.

Furthermore, continuing to harp that I "called with just a draw" - at least get your language correct, I was the one who shoved, I didn't call allin (not that it would matter, 100% it would have been correct for me to call an allin there too).


***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 7759303
$0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 23:08:00 14/05/2019 ET
Table 'Table 82396', 6 seats max, Real money
Seat 1 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6
Seat 1 (joined) : Mirrapro, amount $940, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (joined) : Joecool20, amount $839, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (joined) : ArunSh, amount $859, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (joined) : carolinadaze, amount $1222, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (joined) : stuler, amount $1140, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Joecool20: Small Blind ($10)
ArunSh: Big Blind ($20)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to ArunSh: [7d, 9d]
carolinadaze: Fold
stuler: Fold
Mirrapro: Fold
Joecool20: Call ($10)
ArunSh: Check [btn] ($0)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [8c, 2d, 6d]
Joecool20: Check ($0)
ArunSh: Bet [btn] ($40)
Joecool20: Raise ($80)
ArunSh: Raise [btn] ($839)
Joecool20: Call ($739)
Joecool20: Show Cards ($0)
ArunSh: Show Cards ($0)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [Jd]
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [2c]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
Joecool20: Show Cards ($0)
ArunSh: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $1678, Rake $0
Side pot #1 $20, Rake $0
Summary Joecool20: bet $839, won $1678, net $839, HoleCards [2s, 6h], HiHand [a full house, twos full of sixes] [2s, 2d, 2c, 6h, 6d], won $1678 from main pot
Summary ArunSh: bet $899, won $20, net $-879, HoleCards [7d, 9d], HiHand [a flush, jack high] [Jd, 9d, 7d, 6d, 2d], won $20 from side pot #1




Comments from others? I don't expect Joe to ever get it, but one can hold out hope.

[JoeCool20]

LOL Dude are you freakin nuts?!! I pm'ed you AND APOLOGIZED for posting that you went all in with only a draw!!
Because I knew you were butt hurt about my comment!
And you are STILL butt hurt and you are now "assuming" that I was "spouting" off when ALL I DID was post that "you went all in on a draw!" If you want to risk all of your chips EIGHT minutes into the tournament to a raise behind you when all you have is an open ended straight draw and a NINE high diamond flush draw, then GO AHEAD and do it! I don't care!

Just don't start "Assuming" that I am "spouting off" about it or saying it was the "wrong play" WHEN I NEVER SAID THAT! All I did was post the FACT that you went all in on a draw!

LOL Dude! How the hell can you say I/we are "arguing" when they were YOUR chips and you can do whatever you want with them? And why are you saying you "called all in with a draw" when your OWN thread PLAINLY shows that YOU are the one that went all in with only a draw! I'M the one that called YOUR all in with two pair!


And you used the word "imply" twice in your response! Dude you could not be more wrong about that assumption!

I only stated the fact that you went all in on a draw! I was NOT "implying" whether that was the "wrong" play OR NOT!

Because no play is right or wrong with your OWN chips!! They ain't anybody else's chips! They are yours!


You can play your OWN chips HOWEVER the fuk you want to!

I wasn't "implying" that ANYTHING you did with your chips was "wrong"!! They are your chips to do whatever you want with!

But once again it will only be people on SBR's OPINION about whether they think it was the "right play" to go all in on a straight draw and nine high flush draw or not! Who gives a fuk what people on here think? They were YOUR chips! Not theirs!

I NEVER SAID IT WASN'T THE "RIGHT" CALL! I ONLY STATED THE FACTS! HOW MANY TIMES DO HAVE TO SAY THAT TO YOU! THERE IS NO "RIGHT" OR "WRONG" PLAY IN POKER DUDE! BECAUSE YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH YOUR OWN CHIPS! IF YOU WANT TO GO ALL IN ON A STRAIGHT DRAW AND A NINE HIGH FLUSH DRAW 8 MINUTES INTO THE TOURNAMENT WHEN SOMEBODY RAISED BEHIND YOU, THEN GO AHEAD!

WHY THE FUK DO YOU CARE WHAT A BUNCH OF STRANGERS ON SBR THINKS ABOUT IT?

​Instead of getting "ILL" and "defensive" at my nothing but factual comment, You should have just said: "Hey, I went all in and took a wild gamble on a nine high flush draw 10 minutes into the tournament instead of folding to a raise!"

I would have simply replied "Yes you certainly did Arun, but it is neither a "right" or a "wrong" play, because it is your choice and your chips, so you can do whatever you want!"

It won't make your play "right" or "wrong" no matter which way a bunch of strangers vote on SBR website!


LOL they were YOUR chips and you can do whatever you want with them!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

By your own request to post "donks", I'll post a good one here. I wouldn't care, but given the way you kept going on and on yesterday implying that I made a bad play going allin with "just a draw" which is totally ridiculous (you felt the need to keep spouting on this even though you won the hand lol). And if that wasn't enough, you felt the need to PM me today to emphasize this further...lol.

I guess pointing out to you that you actually are a slight underdog when the chips went in isn't going to sway your opinion either. But since you don't get it, I'd like some others to comment. Not that I care really - I know 100% I played the hand totally correctly, but since Joe won't accept reality, maybe a few others can confirm that he's out of his mind implying that it was wrong for me to go allin here.

Furthermore, continuing to harp that I "called with just a draw" - at least get your language correct, I was the one who shoved, I didn't call allin (not that it would matter, 100% it would have been correct for me to call an allin there too).


***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 7759303
$0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 23:08:00 14/05/2019 ET
Table 'Table 82396', 6 seats max, Real money
Seat 1 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6
Seat 1 (joined) : Mirrapro, amount $940, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (joined) : Joecool20, amount $839, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (joined) : ArunSh, amount $859, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (joined) : carolinadaze, amount $1222, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (joined) : stuler, amount $1140, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Joecool20: Small Blind ($10)
ArunSh: Big Blind ($20)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to ArunSh: [7d, 9d]
carolinadaze: Fold
stuler: Fold
Mirrapro: Fold
Joecool20: Call ($10)
ArunSh: Check [btn] ($0)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [8c, 2d, 6d]
Joecool20: Check ($0)
ArunSh: Bet [btn] ($40)
Joecool20: Raise ($80)
ArunSh: Raise [btn] ($839)
Joecool20: Call ($739)
Joecool20: Show Cards ($0)
ArunSh: Show Cards ($0)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [Jd]
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [2c]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
Joecool20: Show Cards ($0)
ArunSh: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $1678, Rake $0
Side pot #1 $20, Rake $0
Summary Joecool20: bet $839, won $1678, net $839, HoleCards [2s, 6h], HiHand [a full house, twos full of sixes] [2s, 2d, 2c, 6h, 6d], won $1678 from main pot
Summary ArunSh: bet $899, won $20, net $-879, HoleCards [7d, 9d], HiHand [a flush, jack high] [Jd, 9d, 7d, 6d, 2d], won $20 from side pot #1




Comments from others? I don't expect Joe to ever get it, but one can hold out hope.

nothing to see here, flopped bottom 2 pair vs open ended straight and flush draw getting it all in is very standard. Arun, I'm never folding your hand and getting allin on flop is completely fine. I'm not sure what the issue is? Chalk this up to another thing Joe is clueless about! Not only was Arun completely correct getting it in on the flop, his hand is a favorite and has more equity than the 2 pair! Joe buried yet again...

[mpaschal34]

if this is a $200 tournament or more, i probably lay down the 9,7 to fight another day.

anything less than that, i call every time.

i made this exact call for about $200 in a cash game a year back in a casino when a guy shoved with pocket A's. luckily i turned the straight and then flushed on the river.

in an SBR penny tournament early on...i make this call every time without a second of hesitation.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

if this is a $200 tournament or more, i probably lay down the 9,7 to fight another day.

anything less than that, i call every time.

i made this exact call for about $200 in a cash game a year back in a casino when a guy shoved with pocket A's. luckily i turned the straight and then flushed on the river.

in an SBR penny tournament early on...i make this call every time without a second of hesitation.

I'm never folding Arun's hand in an SBR tourney, $200 tourney or a 2k tourney.

[mpaschal34]

I'm never folding Arun's hand in an SBR tourney, $200 tourney or a 2k tourney.

Obviously it depends on chip stack size, how late in tournament, etc.

Early on I tend to play it more cautious, because you can’t win the tournament on one hand. But the later you go into a tournament, the more impact one hand has.

[ArunSh]

if this is a $200 tournament or more, i probably lay down the 9,7 to fight another day.

Obviously it depends on chip stack size, how late in tournament, etc.
Early on I tend to play it more cautious, because you can’t win the tournament on one hand. But the later you go into a tournament, the more impact one hand has.

I agree that chip stack size could definitely be relevant here (I don't think how late in the tournament it is really is particularly relevant, though of course that somewhat correlates to how large stack sizes are compared to blinds).

Say this was one of the Poker Finals, and we both had 10,000 chips or so. Well, obviously when I bet 40 on flop, he min-raises, there would not be a need to outright shove for 10,000 chips, that would be an over-sized raise, even if I had the nuts. So I would three bet then to a more reasonable amount in that situation (maybe 300 or so chips) and then play accordingly based on what he does. Of course in this situation, three betting to 300 would mean more than 1/3 of my chips would be in the pot already. And that point, you are pretty much committed no matter what so might as well go allin.

That said, laying down? At what point? Surely you aren't suggesting folding to his min-raise on the flop. If you think I should have called his min-raise instead of three betting, I agree that's not an unreasonable play, though I really strongly feel three betting is the superior play. Why? Simply because I'm a huge favorite vs his range. He could easily have had just top pair or a slow-played over-pair here (as your opponent did!) against which I'm a tremendous favorite. Against what he had, which is pretty much worse case scenario, I'm still actually a favorite! And considering the chips already in the pot from pre-flop plus the flop action which has already occurred, don't see how you can ever lay this down when you have to think your equity is way higher than 50% on average.

Heck, even if after min-raising me on the flop, he turned over his hand and showed me he had a set, I STILL might be getting the right odds to go with it (though ok, in that situation, it probably would make sense to just call and hope to hit since I have no fold equity). I don't like just calling his flop raise also because if I miss the turn, what do I do then if he bets big on the turn? Probably have to fold then. And if I hit the flush on the turn (as I did!), very likely it scares him, making it quite likely he won't stack off then with one pair then.

nothing to see here, flopped bottom 2 pair vs open ended straight and flush draw getting it all in is very standard. Arun, I'm never folding your hand and getting allin on flop is completely fine. I'm not sure what the issue is? Chalk this up to another thing Joe is clueless about! Not only was Arun completely correct getting it in on the flop, his hand is a favorite and has more equity than the 2 pair! Joe buried yet again...

Thanks Jake. You are right, nothing to see here - as I mentioned above, I feel foolish that I allowed Joe's talk to compel me to get into a debate about this when it's obvious to anyone with a clue that I played this hand absolutely fine.

As I'm sure Joe will tell you shortly as he did several times already, he will harp on about how he "wasn't implying that ANYTHING you did with your chips was "wrong"!! They are your chips to do whatever you want with!" Am rather curious why after a hand you would feel the need to comment at all unless you were implying that exactly (saying OMG you went allin with just a draw blah blah). And mentioning how I put it in with a 35% hand as he did in the other thread (which of course is wrong, but obviously that needn't get in his way!), again why mention that unless trying to make some point about how I made a foolish play.

Anyway, as I mentioned, feel silly that I allowed him to provoke me into this - when I see folks like him who seem to enjoy antagonizing others just for the sake of doing so, trying to stir up trouble, I always try to only observe from the sidelines, never to get involved myself. Yet somehow despite that strong preference, I still have allowed myself to get drawn into it on more than one occasion, sadly! But as I said, in regards to him, it ended for me above - won't be debating him further!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Obviously it depends on chip stack size, how late in tournament, etc.

Early on I tend to play it more cautious, because you can’t win the tournament on one hand. But the later you go into a tournament, the more impact one hand has.

agreed...early in tourney I would probably not get it all in(depending on a few factors) but I don't think it is a bad play to do so. I'd probably just try and get to the river cheaply in a higher buyin deeper stack tournament in the early stages. In later stages with higher blinds, I'm getting it in on the flop all day every day.

[mpaschal34]

Oh...I’d never lay down to a min raise. I guess I got confused and was thinking it was calling an all in

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Arun, joe has a special talent of getting under people's skin so you are not alone lol

[jtoler]

u r 1 of a kind joe

[JAKEPEAVY21]

u r 1 of a kind joe

[JoeCool20]

u r 1 of a kind joe

LOL Thanks man! I get these infatuated stalkers on EVERY forum that I go to!

Because after they start something with me, my sharp replies make them SO angry and embarrassed that their WHOLE freakin lives start revolving around ME and the posts that I make! LOL It's kinda flattering!

LOL Look at this JakePeavy idiot! I have Jake the big baby Pee-Pee on a fukin string dude!

His whole fukkin life revolves around thinking that I can be "buried" by posts from strangers on a fukkin sports chat site! LOL "buried" on a chat board? Does anything more need to be said about that idiot moron?

I embarrassed him and "hurt his wittle feelings" in one of my replies one time and the guy would literally follow me to the ends of the earth to make a rude and baby crying childish comment up under EVERY post/thread that I make!

LOL I mean big crying whiny baby or not, How the hell could Jake let a fukin STRANGER on a chat forum (me) infatuate and control him and make him make an infatuated fool of himself like that? It is fukin incredible!

[JoeCool20]

you were implying that exactly (saying OMG you went allin with just a draw blah blah). again why mention that unless trying to make some point about how I made a foolish play.

LOL I think Arun's post about what he "Assumes" I am implying says MORE than I could EVER say about this!

The poor Arun guy saying it is a "debate" and saying that I was "implying" that his play was wrong says it ALL here!

LOL It CANNOT be a "debate" if I don't have a side! And when he "Assumes" that I am "implying" it was a "wrong" call

WHEN I NEVER SAID THAT, then what more is there to say about it? He even uses the word "foolish"!!!

So now from my simple comment in the poker chat of "LOL You went all in on a draw." This crying whining IMBECILE

has "assumed" that I was saying his play was "wrong" AND "foolish"!!!!


LOL I think it is EASY to see who is "wrong" and "foolish" here! The Arun guy is not only "worried" about what somebody said in fukkin poker chat, but he makes a total fool of himself "Assuming" that I meant he made a "Wrong" and "foolish" play when I NEVER SAID EITHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS!

LOL Look no further that what it says up under my Avatar!! DONT FUKIN CRY ABOUT POKER CHAT POSTS!

If there was enough room I would add "DON'T FUKKIN "ASSUME" THINGS! IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT FOOL!

LOL

[JoeCool20]

Obviously it depends on chip stack size, how late in tournament, etc.

Early on I tend to play it more cautious, because you can’t win the tournament on one hand. But the later you go into a tournament, the more impact one hand has.

EXACTLY!


I play cautious too because I wouldn't want to risk my whole tournament life on a draw 8 minutes into the game!

BUT! If you DO feel like "gambling" on a 50 50 coin flip 8 minutes into the tournament,

THEN GAMBLE AWAY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!


HOW THE HELL COULD SOMEBODY THINK THAT WAS A "WRONG" OR "BAD" PLAY?

I KNOW I NEVER SAID IT WAS A BAD PLAY! This Arun dude just went bat shit crazy and "assumed" I did!

[JoeCool20]

i'm never folding arun's hand in an sbr tourney, $200 tourney or a 2k tourney.

LOL exactly! Who the fuk would fold that hand in a poker tourney? NOT ME!

And who the fuk would ever say it would be "wrong" or a "bad play" to go all in with that draw either? Not me!
This freakin nut case Arunsh only "assumed" that I thought it was the "wrong" play when I NEVER said that! And it is fukin ridiculous of him to do that!

[ArunSh]

Not a donk on either end, but a pretty strange coincidence compared to the above hand hahaha. So I gotta post this hand from tonight I think!

***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 7781940
$0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 23:04:00 28/05/2019 ET
Table 'Table 82627', 6 seats max, Real money
Seat 4 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6
Seat 1 (playing) : Cross_CONF, amount $990, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : sinmiedo, amount $1040, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : d2bets, amount $1020, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : JediMindPicks, amount $970, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing) : ArunSh, amount $980, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
ArunSh: Small Blind ($10)
Cross_CONF: Big Blind ($20)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to ArunSh: [9d, 7d]
sinmiedo: Call ($20)
d2bets: Fold
JediMindPicks: Fold
ArunSh: Call [btn] ($10)
Cross_CONF: Fold
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [4h, 8d, 6d]
ArunSh: Bet [btn] ($60)
sinmiedo: Raise ($120)
ArunSh: Raise [btn] ($960)
sinmiedo: Call ($840)
sinmiedo: Show Cards ($0)
ArunSh: Show Cards ($0)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [8s]
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [5c]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
ArunSh: Show Cards ($0)
sinmiedo: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $1980, Rake $0
Summary sinmiedo: bet $980, won $0, net $-980, HoleCards [Qd, 2d]
Summary ArunSh: bet $1040, won $1980, net $940, HoleCards [9d, 7d], HiHand [a straight, five to nine] [9d, 8s, 7d, 6d, 5c], won $1980 from main pot

[JoeCool20]

I just saw this post. but yeah hell Arun, you went all in on a draw! And so did he!

People go all in on nothing but fukin draws all the time on this SBR poker bullshit.

The only question is IF you had posted in chat after the hand "LOL You went all in on a draw?"

and then the guy went batshit crazy on you for that post and "assumed" that you meant he made a "bad play"

then what would you do? Apologize for the post? So did I. What would you do if the dude went MORE

batshit crazy AFTER you apologized to him? Well that's what you have done to me bro after I apologized to you!

And now you run around up under my posts and bash the shit out of me! All because I posted the words

"LOL You went all in on a draw?" Sometimes I just can't believe you are serious dude.

I hope you can cut out the childish bashing and mouth running bullshit every time you see a post by me.

I'll be as nice as I can to you if/when you cut it out!

I had NO IDEA you could give a flying shit about a simple comment like that after a hand of SBR poker for pizza!