Reduced Deck Poker Tourney Strategy

[Optional]

Thinking of playing this tourney

Flush beats Full house. 3 of a kind beats a Straight.

Anyone know an online site offering this game I can get some practice at?



BUY IN $300 (270 + 30)
STARTING STACK 20,000
LEVEL TIME 30 Mins
FORMAT

NLH with RE ENTRY
Big Blind Ante
36 card deck used
(2-5 removed)
Ace plays high and low

Order of Hands
RF,SF,4oK,F,FH,3oK,S,2P,1P

[shari91]

Where is this being held?

[Crusherrr]

WPN offers 6+ which is a variation of short deck. Make sure the rules match up though. Some games have different hand rankings.

[playersonly69]

It is usually called a Short Deck tournament.

I have played in quite a few of them.


If it does then that is very unusual. But the main thing is that you are going to see ALOT of full houses in this game. You are also going to see alot of straight flushes as well.

[playersonly69]

And I have played in tournaments where the 3 of a kind DOES NOT beat a straight

[playersonly69]

A few VERY IMPORTANT facts. Starting hands in short deck that were strong in regular No Limit are not that strong in short deck.

We have a real loose game here in Texas that is played 2/5 shortdeck. Well unless someone raises like $100 or more preflop with aces, almost everyone else calls because a hand like 10-jack is actually pretty damn good because the odds of hitting the straight are pretty damn good. Or hitting 2 pair.


As a matter of fact, ACE-KING is not that big of a favorite at all to 10-jack preflop.

And in short deck, you will see pocket aces about 1 in every 100 hands versus 1 in every 212 hands in Normal poker

[JAKEPEAVY21]

not sure it's wise to play a tourney that you probably have no clue how to play optimally?

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Where is this being held?

Marconi Club in Sydney.

Would love to come down to Melbourne next week for the Victorian Championships, my favorite festival we have in Aus. But not possible this year.

not sure it's wise to play a tourney that you probably have no clue how to play optimally?

I play for enjoyment as much as it being wise.

A friend I would like to catch up with is playing it.

[Optional]

A few VERY IMPORTANT facts. Starting hands in short deck that were strong in regular No Limit are not that strong in short deck.

We have a real loose game here in Texas that is played 2/5 shortdeck. Well unless someone raises like $100 or more preflop with aces, almost everyone else calls because a hand like 10-jack is actually pretty damn good because the odds of hitting the straight are pretty damn good. Or hitting 2 pair.


As a matter of fact, ACE-KING is not that big of a favorite at all to 10-jack preflop.

And in short deck, you will see pocket aces about 1 in every 100 hands versus 1 in every 212 hands in Normal poker

Maybe it is a bit too different strategy wise to just sit in and learn by the sounds.

Although I imagine most other players will not be in a much better position.



Will check out WPN for a game and give it a try.

[sweep]

suited connectors are huge in short deck while AA/KK/QQ/AK have less value than in NLH

[JAKEPEAVY21]

you might have an edge if you can practice it online somewhere?

[sweep]

CardPlayer.com has some articles on short deck strategy....also called 6-plus poker

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Opti,GoodLuck.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Thinking of playing this tourney

Flush beats Full house. 3 of a kind beats a Straight.

Anyone know an online site offering this game I can get some practice at?



BUY IN $300 (270 + 30)
STARTING STACK 20,000
LEVEL TIME 30 Mins
FORMAT

NLH with RE ENTRY
Big Blind Ante
36 card deck used
(2-5 removed)
Ace plays high and low

Order of Hands
RF,SF,4oK,F,FH,3oK,S,2P,1P

Opti, there are some videos of Short-deck. I found it to be a little too weird.

The rule that rattles my brain is the wrap-around, where u count the Ace as low. Not Ace to five, but Ace/7/8/9/10. Am I even stating that correctly?

[Optional]

I'm probably going to skip it.

Strategy is REALLY different and I cant find anywhere to play it online. WPN wont take Aussies.

Several other good options in my buy-in range.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Opti,HaveGoodTournament.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Opti,HaveGoodTournament.

I'd piss myself if u wind up on one of the Final Table videos w/ Richard Yong.

[sweep]

Optional take some pics and post them here if u can.....and mail me a $1 chip for my collection

Best of luck

[sweep]

Monster Stack on November 6th has your name written all over it!

[Optional]

I'd piss myself if u wind up on one of the Final Table videos w/ Richard Yong.

I ended up on the TV table of the main event last tourney series at this club.

I couldn't find a soul to watch and relay me the other players hands 30 mins behind

Just call me Mr No Friends

Optional take some pics and post them here if u can.....and mail me a $1 chip for my collection

Best of luck

No problem at all. PM me a mailing address. I have some chips from Crown poker room in Melbourne (Aussie Millions) around here too I'll send. WSOP world tour ring event starts at Star City in Sydney the day after this series ends too. Only plan to play the Masters event there, as buy ins a touch over my limit right now, but will grab one of those too.

[sweep]

I ended up on the TV table of the main event last tourney series at this club.

I couldn't find a soul to watch and relay me the other players hands 30 mins behind

Just call me Mr No Friends



No problem at all. PM me a mailing address. I have some chips from Crown poker room in Melbourne (Aussie Millions) around here too I'll send. WSOP world tour ring event starts at Star City in Sydney the day after this series ends too. Only plan to play the Masters event there, as buy ins a touch over my limit right now, but will grab one of those too.

Awesome man, thank you....

Cash games always juicy as well during these events. Keep that in mind

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I ended up on the TV table of the main event last tourney series at this club.

I couldn't find a soul to watch and relay me the other players hands 30 mins behind

Just call me Mr No Friends



No problem at all. PM me a mailing address. I have some chips from Crown poker room in Melbourne (Aussie Millions) around here too I'll send. WSOP world tour ring event starts at Star City in Sydney the day after this series ends too. Only plan to play the Masters event there, as buy ins a touch over my limit right now, but will grab one of those too.

Damn. Sux, Opti. At least u made it. Did any tape make its way to YouTube?

[sweep]

[sweep]

Check in Opti...........

[sweep]

Man talk about a cliff hanger........


How'd it go Opti

[sweep]

[sweep]

Note: These tips assume you are playing with the original hand rankings of Short Deck Hold’em.
Tip #1: Play fewer offsuit hands (and play them less aggressively)

Offsuit hands are significantly less valuable in Short Deck Hold’em because of the increased value of flushes and decreased value of strong pairs.
Tip #2: Play more suited hands and pocket pairs (and play them more aggressively)

This is basically the opposite of tip #1. Since flushes and trips increase in value, suited hands and pocket pairs increase in value.
Tip #3: Use the rule of 6 and 3 to estimate your odds

You can estimate your chances of hitting a draw by multiplying your number of outs by 6 or 3, depending on the street:

• On the flop, multiply your number of outs by 6. For example, if you had an 8-out straight draw on the flop, you would multiply 8 by 6 to get roughly a 48% chance of hitting by the river.
• On the turn, multiply your number of outs by 3. For example, if you had an 8-out straight draw on the turn, you would multiply 8 by 3 to get roughly a 24% chance of hitting on the river.

These numbers are pretty close to the actual figures of 45.5% and 26.6%, respectively. This rule can be super handy while you’re still getting used to the odds in Short Deck Hold’em.
Tip #4: Play your straight draws with caution

Since straights lose to three-of-a-kind, you are not as incentivized to chase straight draws. After all, you’re already drawing dead if your opponent flopped a set.
Straight draws in Short Deck are somewhat similar to low flush draws on monotone boards (such as A♣ 5♥ on T♥ 9♥ 3♥) in traditional Hold’em. You might have the best hand if you hit, and thus it can be a good semi-bluffing hand, but sometimes you’ll already be drawing dead.
Tip #5: Use bottom and middle pairs as semi-bluffs

Middle pairs and bottom pairs are great semi-bluffing hands in Short Deck Hold’em for a couple of reasons:

• You’re more likely to improve with fewer cards in the deck.
• The value of hitting trips is increased.
• These pairs have less showdown value and so you are less incentivized to try to check down with them.

Tip #6: Use your knowledge from traditional Hold’em

Short Deck is certainly a different game, but not so different that you should disregard your typical No Limit Hold’em strategy.
Many concepts still apply, like playing loose on the button, defending your big blind with a wide range, and 3-betting with a well-structured range. The specific ranges will be different, but an in-depth of understanding of No Limit Hold’em strategy is still an asset.

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PokerStars Rolls Out Short Deck Online Cash Game, 6+ Hold'em

January 15, 2019 Valerie Cross







SHARELINES

• The popular 36-card hold'em variant will be available on PokerStars' clients at a variety of stakes.
  
  
  
  

• Bringing 6+ Hold'em from High-Stakes to All

TABLE OF CONTENTS

• Short Deck Hold'em Structure and Rules
• Bringing 6+ Hold'em from High-Stakes to All

One of the latest crazes in the poker world puts a twist on the popular game of no-limit hold'em by removing part of the deck, resulting in new rules, new strategy, and more action. Aware of the growing popularity of the new variant, PokerStars has begun rolling out their version of online short deck poker games with 6+ tables now live in the client.
Short Deck Hold'em Structure and Rules

Whether you call it short deck or six-plus hold'em, the game is the same with the cards numbered two through five removed from the deck. The blind structure is also different, with all players at the table posting an ante, and the player on the button posting a single blind.
With the deuces through fives removed, hand frequencies change and with it, hand rankings. With only nine card ranks, sets are easier to make, as are full houses. Flushes become more difficult with only nine of each suit, and thus a flush beats a full house in 6+ hold'em. Like in regular hold'em, aces can be high or low, but act as a five when played low. The lowest possible straight in short deck therefore is ace-six-seven-eight-nine.

Bringing 6+ Hold'em from High-Stakes to All

With equities that run closer and the action-inducing ante and button blind structure, short deck has become very popular among high-stakes players. You can watch some top pros battle in high-stakes short deck from episodes of Triton Super High Roller Jeju cash games, and see these short deck tips from Phil Ivey and Tom Dwan.

“6+ IS AN EXCITING POKER VARIANT THAT OFTEN PRODUCES BIG HANDS AND A LOT OF ACTION."

Like many trends in poker, what has started in the high-stakes community trickles down to smaller stakes games, and now players can try out the hold'em variant at affordable stakes online at PokerStars.
“6+ is an exciting poker variant that often produces big hands and a lot of action, so we’re excited to bring it to the tables,” said Chris Straghalis, Director of Poker Product at PokerStars. “While the format has proven popular with high stakes players, the range of stakes available on PokerStars and similarities to hold’em mean that it should appeal to those who may want to try a new game but don’t want something too different. We’re looking forward to seeing what people think.”
Six-max tables of 6+ hold'em are now available at all stakes for both real and play money at the .DK, .EE, and .NET clients, while the game is scheduled to hit the lobbies of the .COM, .EU, .UK, and .SE sites on January 16. Players will find the new games in the 6+ tab of the lobby. Also, look out for PokerStars ambassadors to stream sessions of the new variant on Twitch to help get players schooled up on the game.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I've come to the conclusion that I don't like this game. Don't like re-ranking the hand orders. And I really don't like the wrap-around str8.

[sweep]

Any ROW pokerstars players tried this yet? Its not available yet here in NJ. As far as I know PS & ACR are the only rooms spreading short deck right now....