is full tilt rigged

realplaya75 · 06-25-09, 06:23 PM

lol people always say stuff like this when they get a bad beat but its not rigged it happens no matter whether your playing on full tilt or anything other site or in live events, bad beats happen and it doesnt mean that the game is rigged

BGS 9.5 · 06-25-09, 06:47 PM

Do not play poker online, you will lose......

KingRevolver · 06-25-09, 06:52 PM

I've always claimed that Pokerstars was rigged after receiving a bad beat. Yet, I wouldn't say anything when I would be the one handing out the bad beat. Coincidence?

DrStale · 06-25-09, 06:53 PM

Ha, some hands you should have won. Yeah if you're losing hands you're favored to win its definitely a scam and you should quit immediately. Or not. Full Tilt is not rigged, none of the major networks are rigged, and if you play smart you can turn a profit over time.

pico · 06-25-09, 08:22 PM

yes

CaneDawg · 06-25-09, 09:21 PM

stay away from online poker

i doubt its rigged.....but the u never know factor is there

good luck

andrew5 · 06-25-09, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by CaneDawg

stay away from online poker

i doubt its rigged.....but the u never know factor is there

good luck

i only play freerolls none of my money yet

andrew5 · 06-25-09, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by realplaya75

lol people always say stuff like this when they get a bad beat but its not rigged it happens no matter whether your playing on full tilt or anything other site or in live events, bad beats happen and it doesnt mean that the game is rigged

i win more on bodog then full tilt and there freerolls are smaller

Bigmikesm · 06-25-09, 11:32 PM

A while back I turned a $200 deposit into $3100 playing 2/4 no limit on pokerstars in 2 days. I wasn't a believer in online poker until I saw this. I've never heard anything about employees playing on Full Tilt though. Wouldn't be suprised if this was happening though.

Roxxyfish · 06-26-09, 07:10 AM

Hi Iam playing on over 30 sites online poker, and of course from tome to time I thought it must be rigged, but its not , the pokersites have no interest to make the game rigged their business is the rake, they dont care who wins how much, the thing you have to learn to deal with ur bad beats and play patient and never go ontilt long term good players will win I am an Omaha HiLO player and the 1st 3 years i dont make profit Patience , thats it

TheIntegrityKid · 06-26-09, 07:13 AM

Not to sure if it's "rigged" but it does seem that if you get QQ, there is ALWAYS someone who gets KK or AA. That happens FAR more frequently online than offline

payingthejuice · 06-26-09, 07:19 AM

Its not rigged, and I will give you a simple example of why.

Online poker is played at a WAY FASTER pace then live games.

For example, lets say Live poker is like standing on a rural small town road, counting blue cars (blue cars are bad beats) you might see a couple here and there. As there isnt many cars going by per hour.

Live games are like standing on a busy inner city street, and then try counting Blue Cars. You are going to see a lot more, simply because there are more going by per hour.

Try it sometime, count how many bad beats you see in 100 hands at a LIVE game... then count how many you see in 100 hands ONLINE. Im willing to bet there wont be much of a difference.

Roxxyfish · 06-26-09, 07:22 AM

I totally agree nuff said

TheIntegrityKid · 06-26-09, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by payingthejuice

Its not rigged, and I will give you a simple example of why.

Online poker is played at a WAY FASTER pace then live games.

For example, lets say Live poker is like standing on a rural small town road, counting blue cars (blue cars are bad beats) you might see a couple here and there. As there isnt many cars going by per hour.

Live games are like standing on a busy inner city street, and then try counting Blue Cars. You are going to see a lot more, simply because there are more going by per hour.

Try it sometime, count how many bad beats you see in 100 hands at a LIVE game... then count how many you see in 100 hands ONLINE. Im willing to bet there wont be much of a difference.

I pretty much agree wholeheartedly, but it does seem like multiple people each end up with Pocket Pairs or 3 of a kind loses to a straight WAY MORE often online than off...

If it's not completely rigged, maybe it's set up to give more people good hands so they stay in and play more...

wavesu6410 · 06-26-09, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by TheIntegrityKid

If it's not completely rigged, maybe it's set up to give more people good hands so they stay in and play more...

That does makes sense. I've noticed it more then a few times.

TheIntegrityKid · 06-26-09, 08:34 AM

Yeah... It's like EVERYONE gets a good/great hand... Well not everyone, but at a 9 player table, when 3 guys are holding MONSTER hands, you begin to wonder

Get more money in the pot so they take more rake?

andrew5 · 07-01-09, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by realplaya75

lol people always say stuff like this when they get a bad beat but its not rigged it happens no matter whether your playing on full tilt or anything other site or in live events, bad beats happen and it doesnt mean that the game is rigged

do you work for full tilt

andrew5 · 07-01-09, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by andrew5

i have heard full tilt is rigged the employees play and get the money and some hands i shoulda won turn bust

what are the chances of a table having 4 people pockets pairs ks qs js 10s

bs

andrew5 · 07-01-09, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by TheIntegrityKid

Yeah... It's like EVERYONE gets a good/great hand... Well not everyone, but at a 9 player table, when 3 guys are holding MONSTER hands, you begin to wonder

Get more money in the pot so they take more rake?

what are the chances of a table having 4 people pockets pairs ks qs js 10s

bs

jjgold · 07-01-09, 08:06 PM

Too much money involved and they do not have to rig it

They make tons of money

flyingillini · 07-01-09, 08:12 PM

Ghost ride the whip

losturmarbles · 07-01-09, 08:24 PM

who audits the poker sites?

donjuan · 07-01-09, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by losturmarbles

who audits the poker sites?

Considering there are programs out there that track every hand played online, it wouldn't be difficult to prove whether or not the deal is fair.

cankid · 07-01-09, 09:55 PM

foolish to thing there's not some fishy stuff going on somewhere...like the RUss Hamilton...UBet thing, remember those are the ones that get caught, get a book called Dirty Poker by Richard Marcus....they profiled him on Breaking Vegas on the History channel, good read...I'm sure its safe most of the time but someone is getting scammed somewhere

losturmarbles · 07-01-09, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by donjuan

Considering there are programs out there that track every hand played online, it wouldn't be difficult to prove whether or not the deal is fair.

that doesnt answer the question.

yeah you can track your cards and whatever gets turned over during the hand. and there are sites that store the hand histories from people who share them. which is all great.

but even if you have enough tracked hands to look at, that might be a gauge of how fair or unfair the poker room is, but it would hardly be proof of anything.

i doubt the high profile sites would be dumb enough to manipulate hands, but who knows.

donjuan · 07-01-09, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by losturmarbles

that doesnt answer the question.

yeah you can track your cards and whatever gets turned over during the hand. and there are sites that store the hand histories from people who share them. which is all great.

but even if you have enough tracked hands to look at, that might be a gauge of how fair or unfair the poker room is, but it would hardly be proof of anything.

i doubt the high profile sites would be dumb enough to manipulate hands, but who knows.

WTF? Millions of hands doesn't prove anything? How delusional are you?

Fiasco · 07-01-09, 10:19 PM

It isn't rigged.

if you're good you will win

losturmarbles · 07-01-09, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by donjuan

WTF? Millions of hands doesn't prove anything? How delusional are you?

grow up donnie. your hand history doesnt show everyone's hole cards. you can manipulate hands and it still look like a legit RNG from a single perspective.

smitch124 · 07-01-09, 11:06 PM

Its rigged when I lose and fair when I win.

WileOut · 07-01-09, 11:17 PM

I don't know if the poker sites are rigged or not. However they make enough money that they could hire programming geniuses to come up with ways to fit/satisfy the tracking programs and at the same time maximize return. They know exactly what needs to happen to bring the most people back to the site to play. It also needs to fit the tracking programs. I don't know if this type of software is possible but I would think that it is.

Also not everyone exports hand histories. They could target only those people (who don't track it) with software manipulation.

Plus there has already been a huge site that was caught cheating with a superuser. Sites could use these easily.

But I'm not saying it's rigged. Only that there is the possibility.

donjuan · 07-02-09, 01:17 AM

You guys are right. All online poker is rigged and that's why you lose. No one makes money except the sites.

P.S. Anyone up for some heads up on Bodog?

Kaps · 07-02-09, 02:19 AM

you guys are all fooling yourselves if you think that its not rigged a little bit ....trust me

Kaps · 07-02-09, 02:22 AM

and im not talikng about bad beats ....im talking about bad betting paterns when clearly there is no reason for that individual your going up against should be betting into a hand and raising you

trust its all bullshit

they let you win early on when you first open your acct like the first 2 weeks and then they have guys who go from table to table raking in money from guys that have won for the past couple weeks

ive had plenty of experiences like that

Kaps · 07-02-09, 02:30 AM

here an example :

im holding pocket 33 .....opponent is holding 47 (offsuite)

i make a early raise pre flop and he calls me with that shit
flop comes A - 3 - 6

i check and he bets ....thats the mistake
nobody makes a bet right there hoping to catch a ****ing 5 (no way)
i raise him and he calls me

next card is a Q

i check and again he bets .....i raise and he calls

flop comes a 5

thats what im talking about ....forget the bad beats ...im talking about questionable betting patterns