Lets face it only squares bet on the NFL

[frogsrangers]

Its just not wise to bet on it unless the bet is for entertainment purposes only

Not a sport that can be beaten in the long run

You might get lucky some weeks but over the course of the year or over the course over many seasons you will lose

I was at LVH tonight making some late college football wagers and some guy broke a chair into smitherins with wood chips scattered all over the floor because his Bears bet lost

If you are taking your loss that seriously you are betting too much money or betting on the wrong sport

[Balco10]

I concur about wagering on the NFL.

[lunchbawks]

College is more difficult u get less info from the books

[frogsrangers]

I can understand placing a wager on NFL games but it should be for entertainment purposes and you should expect to lose

If you have reasonable expectations and are OK with your bet losing that's one thing

But if you are doing it trying to make an easy buck and use it as a source of income or place your entire month's salary on an NFL bet or two you are a moron

[frogsrangers]

College is more difficult u get less info from the books

I disagree

College gets more homer bets, homers of a team pound their teams line and moves the line away from what it should be

Plus you will never get bad lines in the NFL but with over 70 games in a given week its easy for the oddsmakers to miss a line or for the public to push a line into unreasonable territory, for example this week Toledo is -3.5 at home over Bowling Green, opened at 7, public are morons and must have ignored Toledo's success this year so far, and are putting too much stock in BGSU competing with Florida in Week 1 and forgot how shitty BGSU was last week against Idaho.

College teams like Toledo dont get as much exposure therefore the public are less informed and will move the line opposite what makes sense

But all NFL teams get exposure

[face]

thought bears tt over 20 w/ juice was safe. not even close. against gb defense. i agree, hard to predict

[rm18]

I disagree

College gets more homer bets, homers of a team pound their teams line and moves the line away from what it should be

Plus you will never get bad lines in the NFL but with over 70 games in a given week its easy for the oddsmakers to miss a line or for the public to push a line into unreasonable territory, for example this week Toledo is -3.5 at home over Bowling Green, opened at 7, public are morons and must have ignored Toledo's success this year so far, and are putting too much stock in BGSU competing with Florida in Week 1 and forgot how shitty BGSU was last week against Idaho.

College teams like Toledo dont get as much exposure therefore the public are less informed and will move the line opposite what makes sense

But all NFL teams get exposure

Toledo is on ESPN 7 times a year, though I do agree they should win Saturday.

[Hustler11]

Wow so Billy Walters is dropping over a mil every Sunday for nothing? Thanks for the insight. You wont be able to beat the NFL in the long run because you obviously don't want to. You beat yourself man, have a little determination.

[RawBillyIce]

what sport aside college do u suggest betting frog?

I think if you bet small on some dogs when they are due to hit u can pop big on the ML's in NFL

take a gander at Arizona ML like 650 u never know any given Sunday Fitzgerald might score 4TD's

I hit big one time betting against Nadal in Tennis ML was crazy huge

what if u would bet on Buster Douglas against Tyson back in the days

I bet $2 last year on 3 team ML parlay and won over 100 frog. Tebow and 2 other teams

3team ML parlay

[frogsrangers]

I bet on 4 sports

College Football
College Basketball
WNBA
Baseball (Plus Money bets only)

Dont touch anything else

[Ernie Mccracken]

I will continue to fade any and all of lander's picks, including NFL. It's like stealing.

[alabasterf]

I'm with ya on the NFL. I made a point to avoid it altogether, but broke my own rule and parlayed the 2 Monday night games' ML...lost the tail end due to the Raiders' uncanny ability to suck at every detail important to winning. I'll be steering clear from now on. I enjoy your take on college and appreciate your writeups. As a former BYU football player I tip my hat to another former athlete who thinks like a player when appropriate and not merely a computer. It's good to do a little of both, I think. Keep up the good work.

[GunShard]

I think gamblers should know that just because it's monday or thursday doesn't mean you have to bet when your strongest play is on sunday. More games on sunday to bet on.

Present oriented people are more likely to lose money than Future oriented people.

[Killer_Demo]

NCAAF is easier for me than NFL any day

[White Rhino]

I make an average of 2500$ on nfl every year. So what ever you are doing is wrong.

[RawBillyIce]

I would like to read your writeups frog

where are they?

[frogsrangers]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1859914-lillipad-frogsrangers-2012-college-football-picks-resources.html

Shut down my WNBA thread for the season since I only have time to focus on college football but I was doing well in that too

[ChalkyDog]

I will say there is more square money on the board, but NFL is like every other sport - you have to put in work and spot play more than anything, IMO.

[MoneyLineDawg]

I love college football and basketball the best money wise gambling, but come on dude, you bet $10 a unit.

And NFL winners can be found every game

[RawBillyIce]

money not issue here

I have bet thousands on games in my life I have lost thousands too

cashed out a 401k and set out to triple my money and lost close to 10k in less then a year

not the plan..lol pills and booze had a little to do with that losing streak,
but that is another matter. I hope that statement was not directed at me for u don't know me nor do I any of you

[RawBillyIce]

I live 10mins from Charlotte Sting why do u feel Wnba is a hit?

[MoneyLineDawg]

money not issue here

I have bet thousands on games in my life I have lost thousands too

cashed out a 401k and set out to triple my money and lost close to 10k in less then a year

not the plan..lol pills and booze had a little to do with that losing streak,
but that is another matter. I hope that statement was not directed at me for u don't know me nor do I any of you

Wasnt directed at you......Was directed at OP

Just strange how you can bet so small and be so concerned with lines and value that you won't even bet certain sports

Also, NFL can be beat just like any other sport......Whole premise is wrong

I personally enjoy and find it easier to beat NCAAF but doesn't mean the next guy will

[2daBank]

I bet on 4 sports

College Football
College Basketball
WNBA
Baseball (Plus Money bets only)

Dont touch anything else

luv 3 of those 4...never touched beaver ball although i hear it gravy, just cant get into it.. you right NFL crazy, for me it usually a yr to yr thing as it either real good, real bad, or in between, hardly ever the same as the year b4 so on bright side last yr sucked so hoping the lifetime trend continues..for me seeing how i know how it normally works for me i generally take it easy with 50-100$ bets and if things going well i will get it while im seeing things good, if it isnt going so hot ill continue throwing $50 bets around just for the action and hopefully keep losses to a minimum, never get crazy till im playing with house money (nice the years that happens, some end up huge some end up giving house its money back but whatever it all about the ride )

[rm18]

I live 10mins from Charlotte Sting why do u feel Wnba is a hit?

[Goat Milk]

NFL not too hard

NBA easy money come playoffs

Tennis majors pretty good, outside majors very hard

MLB impossible. I never bet on 1 MLB game before I came to this fukkin site. I've lost thousands on MLB I can't even name 30 players in the league. Impossible to bet. Worst team in the league can beat the best team on any given day. Retarded sport.

Impossible to cap where the balls are going to land on a particular day. A team could be on fire swinging the bat one day and the next they get 1 hit. Stupid sport. No athleticism involved.

Nothing to cap. You can't cap a baseball game. There is no matchup diagnosis.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Most people that bet any sport are squares imo. How many people beat this game in the long run? The Professionals are on the side of the HOUSE. Best thing to do is bet for entertainmnet purposes only. Being a sharp and making a living out of sports wagering is a Pipe Dream for most.

[PAULYPOKER]

Spot betting and extreme discipline is key unless you have a proven model...............

So unless you can build your own model or buy one you will never get ahead wagering high volume.........

NFL: 2team teasers are your best chance for success......

MLB: using RL on all favorites that put your wager on the plus side and ML on all dogs is your best chance for success.........

NBA: still haven't figured it out...........

NCAAF: following line movement RLM, fading the public especially during bowl season is your best chance for success............

[thetrinity]

i agree to a point frogs.

still value on some nfl games, just not as abundant as the other sports.

also way less games in nfl then any other sport, so less chances to win.

[naslax13]

I disagree

College gets more homer bets, homers of a team pound their teams line and moves the line away from what it should be

Plus you will never get bad lines in the NFL but with over 70 games in a given week its easy for the oddsmakers to miss a line or for the public to push a line into unreasonable territory, for example this week Toledo is -3.5 at home over Bowling Green, opened at 7, public are morons and must have ignored Toledo's success this year so far, and are putting too much stock in BGSU competing with Florida in Week 1 and forgot how shitty BGSU was last week against Idaho.

College teams like Toledo dont get as much exposure therefore the public are less informed and will move the line opposite what makes sense

But all NFL teams get exposure

bgsu should be favored your wrong.

[stevenash]

Its just not wise to bet on it unless the bet is for entertainment purposes only

Correct, the operative word being entertainment.
The only difference between the WWE and the NFL is the NFL doesn't admit it.

[PAULYPOKER]

The only difference between the WWE and the NFL is the NFL doesn't admit it.

[Duff85]

Not a sport that can be beaten in the long run

Don't agree with this. Have beaten it the last two years.

[stevenash]

MLB impossible. I never bet on 1 MLB game before I came to this fukkin site. I've lost thousands on MLB I can't even name 30 players in the league. Impossible to bet. Worst team in the league can beat the best team on any given day. Retarded sport.

Impossible to cap where the balls are going to land on a particular day. A team could be on fire swinging the bat one day and the next they get 1 hit. Stupid sport. No athleticism involved.

Nothing to cap. You can't cap a baseball game. There is no matchup diagnosis.

Disagree 100 percent.
Easiest sport to beat is MLB.
80 percent of my wagers are barking dogs, and the faves I do bet are never more than -125.
Plenty of match up diagnosis.
Start with the starting pitchers, then check the bullpen status.
Then go to lineup versus starting pitcher history, who hits what pitcher hard, what pitcher has trouble with certain teams, what pitcher has their way with certain line ups.
All the data is out there, I do two hours plus homework everyday of the MLB season, crushed it in April and May, cooled down some in August, crushing it this month again, I am 58 percent this season, which may not be eye-popping, but consider most of my bets are bow-wows, I am plus bank.
I don't pretend to do this for a living, I don't, I supplement my income betting bases, I win, I lose, I lose, I win.
MLB can be beat, you need a nice roll to start, and you need to do the work, but like I said, it can be beat, but very few can make a living at it, I am good, and I can't, but I don't want to, I have a career with a pension and benefits, that's a sure thing, a sure thing is not Verlander versus Cook, because a 5-4-3 ending inning DP could hit a pebble or the third base bag for a 3 run double instead of a routine 2 out grounder.

[PAULYPOKER]

Disagree 100 percent.
Easiest sport to beat is MLB.
80 percent of my wagers are barking dogs, and the faves I do bet are never more than -125.
Plenty of match up diagnosis.
Start with the starting pitchers, then check the bullpen status.
Then go to lineup versus starting pitcher history, who hits what pitcher hard, what pitcher has trouble with certain teams, what pitcher has their way with certain line ups.
All the data is out there, I do two hours plus homework everyday of the MLB season, crushed it in April and May, cooled down some in August, crushing it this month again, I am 58 percent this season, which may not be eye-popping, but consider most of my bets are bow-wows, I am plus bank.
I don't pretend to do this for a living, I don't, I supplement my income betting bases, I win, I lose, I lose, I win.
MLB can be beat, you need a nice roll to start, and you need to do the work, but like I said, it can be beat, but very few can make a living at it, I am good, and I can't, but I don't want to, I have a career with a pension and benefits, that's a sure thing, a sure thing is not Verlander versus Cook, because a 5-4-3 ending inning DP could hit a pebble or the third base bag for a 3 run double instead of a routine 2 out grounder.

Yep, this is only my 3rd year capping MLB and I have a strategy that works great for me............

MLB: using RL on all favorites that put your wager on the plus side and ML on all dogs is your best chance for success.........

[stevenash]

MLB: using RL on all favorites that put your wager on the plus side and ML on all dogs is your best chance for success.........

Yep, betting -160 faves will bury you.
Only one I know that shows a little profit betting chalk, is Doctor Chalk himself, Benjamin Lee Eckstein.
He gets criticized for betting chalk, but he wins, not much, but wins.
He's 87 and 61 this season again, that's +26 over, but 47 of the 61 losses were faves.