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  • horja1
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-13-11
    • 5646

    #36
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    • shari91
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-23-10
      • 32661

      #37
      Great offer Rick! Thanks

      Originally posted by yisman
      books ban people for betting steam which is proof it does work.
      I'm testing out this theory now at a Euro book that's driving me nuts.

      Going to bet every move that comes through SO for the next couple of hours... we'll see if I last with these tossers after this. Only putting $100 a play on though so maybe that's not enough for them to even care.
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      • yisman
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-01-08
        • 75682

        #38
        One thing I noticed from my first night trying the software:

        three times there was a 'steam play' and/or 'key move' and it came right back.

        Steam play on Cleveland, then later steam on Texas brought it right back to where it was.

        Same for Yankees, and then Boston.

        Finally, the Atlanta over, and the Atlanta under.

        Got head faked like crazy.
        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
        [/quote]

        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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        • crustyme
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-29-10
          • 16896

          #39
          jj giving out serious gambling advice while down $58,500.

          too funny.

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          • blowseq
            SBR MVP
            • 03-06-09
            • 1440

            #40
            i hate Java
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            • k13
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-16-10
              • 18104

              #41
              Where are the public %'s from?
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              • xelemental
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-22-07
                • 602

                #42
                i dont understand this. i never used something like this before. I went to go look at the football odds for this sunday but it just shows me lines from so many other books. does it give recommendations?
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                • shari91
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 02-23-10
                  • 32661

                  #43
                  So I followed some of these steam and key moves last night like I mentioned earlier.

                  Results so far:

                  Yankees/Red Sox under 10: Win

                  San Antonio/Tulsa Shock under 161.5: Win

                  Tigers/White Sox over 8.5: Win

                  Atlanta/Brewers over 7.5: Win

                  Giants/Rockies under 10: at 9 runs end of the 7th so not looking great

                  Blue Jays -117: Loss


                  I'm pretty impressed for my first time chasing steam. I assume it's beginner's luck.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #44
                    Originally posted by shari91
                    So I followed some of these steam and key moves last night like I mentioned earlier.

                    Results so far:

                    Yankees/Red Sox under 10: Win

                    San Antonio/Tulsa Shock under 161.5: Win

                    Tigers/White Sox over 8.5: Win

                    Atlanta/Brewers over 7.5: Win

                    Giants/Rockies under 10: at 9 runs end of the 7th so not looking great

                    Blue Jays -117: Loss


                    I'm pretty impressed for my first time chasing steam. I assume it's beginner's luck.


                    Over time they are big time losers and I mean big

                    Everyone would buy it and just sit home and bet these and be rich

                    There is a reason line services have a medicoire subscription base
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                    • yisman
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-01-08
                      • 75682

                      #45
                      it happens every day

                      I guess the syndicates have great fun bashing the numbers back and forth. One syndicate bets one way, then the other comes back and goes the other way.

                      A lot of the key/steam I get are on opposite sides.I got key move and steam play today tb/bal under, then a key move right back on the over.

                      Key-Move Alert
                      09/13/12 12:32:39pm
                      MLB: Game 955 Tampa Bay/Baltimore - UNDER
                      12:32:27pm 44Wager was 8½u-120 is 8u-120
                      12:32:28pm Click and Bet was 8½u-120 is 8u-120
                      12:32:39pm BetOnline was 8½u-125 is 8o-120
                      12:32:39pm SportsBetting was 8½u-125 is 8o-120

                      Steam-Play Alert
                      09/13/12 09:32:39am
                      MLB: Game 955 (ORN# 3409) Tampa Bay/Baltimore - UNDER 8½




                      Key-Move Alert
                      09/13/12 12:35:59pm
                      MLB: Game 955 Tampa Bay/Baltimore - OVER
                      12:35:46pm BetUS was 8 is 8½u-125
                      12:35:50pm BetKill was 7½o-120 is 8u-119
                      12:35:53pm Heritage was 7½o-120 is 8u-120
                      12:35:59pm MyBookieShop was 8u-120 is 8½u-120
                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                      [/quote]

                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                      • blowseq
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-06-09
                        • 1440

                        #46
                        it didnt work on my MAC, had some problems with JAVA! Now using it on Windows, looks good!
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                        • yisman
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-01-08
                          • 75682

                          #47
                          Originally posted by jjgold


                          Over time they are big time losers and I mean big

                          Everyone would buy it and just sit home and bet these and be rich

                          There is a reason line services have a medicoire [sic] subscription base
                          Did you even read what I wrote before?

                          But I'm sure you know plenty about line services. After all...

                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Ships approaching
                          Watch CNN like I do instead of sports
                          So much for all the lies about watching a lot of tennis.
                          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                          [/quote]

                          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65084

                            #48
                            Rick, can you please answer...

                            Main reason I do not spend the money is because public percentages.
                            What makes yours better? Where do your percentages come from?
                            I have seen respected people say sportsinsights is better in that area, so would like to know where you are?
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                            • yisman
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-01-08
                              • 75682

                              #49
                              shari, go to system plays on the title bar and select steam plays. They have a history of steam plays and whether they won or lost.
                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                              [/quote]

                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                              • shaunovery
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-15-07
                                • 18143

                                #50
                                I'm trying it its very confusing bloody numbers everywhere it looks like a more jumbled version of sbrodds.com

                                Anyone think it's worth the basic 99 bucks a month
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                                • The Giant
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-21-12
                                  • 21480

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by shaunovery
                                  I'm trying it its very confusing bloody numbers everywhere it looks like a more jumbled version of sbrodds.com

                                  Anyone think it's worth the basic 99 bucks a month

                                  I agree. It's very jumbled.

                                  I actually signed up with them a little over a week ago, for the one-week free trial offer.

                                  At the end of the week, on the 11th, I e-mailed some guy named Chris and asked him a couple of questions because I was considering purchasing a month of their service through SBR.

                                  I'm still waiting for Chris to answer.

                                  So, jumbled. And bad customer service.
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #52
                                    Sports Options tried getting too cute and ruined it

                                    Don Best is much crisper and geared to a professional book and player
                                    10x better software

                                    Pioneers of line services
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                                    • CanuckG
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-23-10
                                      • 21978

                                      #53
                                      JJ use to hammer DonBest but was told to stop

                                      JJGold: We are tired of your slanderous and false statements about our company. You have never been a customer of Don Best Sports, so you are not in any position to offer an opinion on our service. Lines are not delayed, and betting is not taking place in our office. You have absolutely no basis for your accusations, but that doesn't seem to be anything new for you. It's a shame that there is a (slight) possibility that some unsuspecting reader might take you seriously.

                                      Our Premium service is used by thousands of customers all over the world, including the largest professional gamblers and licensed sportsbooks. Any serious player can't do without the service. We have endorsements from the most respected people in the industry. In fact, one need not look further than the people operating this site for an endorsement, since they are paying subscribers to our service. Now are you going to try and tell sharky522 that all those very sharp people are wrong, and you, with your $50 bets, are in a position to know what you're talking about?

                                      sharky522: Please reserve judgement about our service until you get an answer to your question from someone that is qualified to answer. You are welcome to call or e-mail us for any questions or references. (800) DON-BEST or danac@donbest.com. Thank you.[/b]
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                                      • yisman
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-01-08
                                        • 75682

                                        #54
                                        How do I get Pinnacle back onto my list? It was always there until today. Now I have Carib and a bunch of Vegas books there.
                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                        [/quote]

                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                        • baskets
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-24-11
                                          • 11691

                                          #55
                                          yizzy, JJ is actually right

                                          lots of naive ppl out there


                                          product not necessary
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65084

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by yisman
                                            How do I get Pinnacle back onto my list? It was always there until today. Now I have Carib and a bunch of Vegas books there.
                                            Setup

                                            COlumns


                                            Or, right click where another book is. such as cris. right click - add column here
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                                            • shari91
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 02-23-10
                                              • 32661

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by yisman
                                              shari, go to system plays on the title bar and select steam plays. They have a history of steam plays and whether they won or lost.


                                              One of many reasons chasing steam would never work for me is because of the time difference. A lot of them come through when I'm asleep or out for the day. Definitely having fun with it so far although if I'd lost the past two days I'm sure I'd feel differently
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by baskets
                                                yizzy, JJ is actually right

                                                lots of naive ppl out there


                                                product not necessary
                                                I am always right as far as line services

                                                EXPERT
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                                                • yisman
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-01-08
                                                  • 75682

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by baskets
                                                  yizzy, JJ is actually right

                                                  lots of naive ppl out there


                                                  product not necessary
                                                  jj is very rarely right about anything and this is not one of those times.


                                                  and thanks rudy, although the problem is on their end because the list that comes up doesn't include Pinnacle.

                                                  I shut down and reopened the program and now the real books are back again. They're screwing around. I certainly didn't go and delete 20 books.
                                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                  [/quote]

                                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                  • ferndog
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-22-07
                                                    • 1386

                                                    #60
                                                    Long term those steamers win at about 55% and probably less than that. By the time u try to play that play the value might be long gone so the original steamer might be a winner but because u had 1/2 pt higher or lower your play is a loser because of the move. Just wait for college bb. I counted on a Saturday at least 100 steam move plays in 1 day. Baseball is the slow time of year. Sometimes they can win u 10 out of 12 plays but then they can and will also lose in that manner.....What i liked about the software is that i was always alerted about injuries.
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                                                    • Br0nxer
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-25-11
                                                      • 13665

                                                      #61


                                                      of course chasing steam doesnt work

                                                      without 25 fukkin outs and slow moving books. and even then you would be limited

                                                      why would anyone fukkin work

                                                      if it did work people would just sit home stacking paper all fukkin day
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                                                      • blowseq
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-06-09
                                                        • 1440

                                                        #62
                                                        Sports Options is good but i would like to see DonBest Real-Time Odds on SBR Store
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                                                        • shari91
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 02-23-10
                                                          • 32661

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Br0nxer


                                                          of course chasing steam doesnt work

                                                          without 25 fukkin outs and slow moving books. and even then you would be limited

                                                          why would anyone fukkin work

                                                          if it did work people would just sit home stacking paper all fukkin day
                                                          Who in this thread is trying to say it works?
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                                                          • yisman
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-01-08
                                                            • 75682

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by ferndog
                                                            Long term those steamers win at about 55% and probably less than that. By the time u try to play that play the value might be long gone so the original steamer might be a winner but because u had 1/2 pt higher or lower your play is a loser because of the move. Just wait for college bb. I counted on a Saturday at least 100 steam move plays in 1 day. Baseball is the slow time of year. Sometimes they can win u 10 out of 12 plays but then they can and will also lose in that manner.....What i liked about the software is that i was always alerted about injuries.
                                                            Obviously if you play a steam play after the move you're not going to win.

                                                            That's just betting bad numbers.

                                                            The real reason betting steam doesn't work is twofold:

                                                            A)Most reputable books move fast.
                                                            B)The ones that don't will simply boot you (or limit you severely) if you keep doing it.
                                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                            [/quote]

                                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                            • baskets
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-24-11
                                                              • 11691

                                                              #65
                                                              yizzy, JJ is right on this issue

                                                              he puts on his entertainment show but the guy is smart. it's all an act


                                                              also, JJ knows that Brian Laverty is a fraud just as well as I do. this is not rocket science here
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                                                              • Br0nxer
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-25-11
                                                                • 13665

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by blowseq
                                                                Sports Options is good but i would like to see DonBest Real-Time Odds on SBR Store

                                                                is don best better?
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                                                                • yisman
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 09-01-08
                                                                  • 75682

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by baskets
                                                                  yizzy, JJ is right on this issue

                                                                  he puts on his entertainment show but the guy is smart. it's all an act
                                                                  Right, it's an act. Basically everything he posts is part of that act, and therefore wrong. His posts about sports, gambling, and pretty much everything are very off.
                                                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                  [/quote]

                                                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                  • RickA
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 12-22-08
                                                                    • 22

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                    Rick, can you please answer...

                                                                    Main reason I do not spend the money is because public percentages.
                                                                    What makes yours better? Where do your percentages come from?
                                                                    I have seen respected people say sportsinsights is better in that area, so would like to know where you are?
                                                                    Hi Rudy,

                                                                    At the sportsbooks' request, we cannot give out the name of books that provide us with betting data.

                                                                    As far as comparing our Public% with SI, I know that we have a few more sportsbooks included in our numbers, but I wouldn't necessarily make our better. SI does a good job with betting data as well.

                                                                    Thanks
                                                                    Rick
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                                                                    • blowseq
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-06-09
                                                                      • 1440

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Br0nxer
                                                                      is don best better?
                                                                      Haven't used them but i heard Don Best is the best in this business.. their 1 Month Subscription is $499
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                                                                      • shari91
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 02-23-10
                                                                        • 32661

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by yisman
                                                                        Obviously if you play a steam play after the move you're not going to win.

                                                                        That's just betting bad numbers.

                                                                        The real reason betting steam doesn't work is twofold:

                                                                        A)Most reputable books move fast.
                                                                        B)The ones that don't will simply boot you (or limit you severely) if you keep doing it.
                                                                        And this is why I was interested in testing this for fun. I suspected one of my books would be slow and wouldn't give two shits even if they did figure it out and I was right. So we'll see how we go for the rest of my trial. I've upped the size of my bets because I'm playing with quite a bit of profit now so I may as well see it through.
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