One of my bigger plays on Oakland tonight

mookafied · 09-10-12, 01:20 PM

solid reasons

BIGDAY · 09-10-12, 01:23 PM

Don't bury me TT! I went all in on your selection!!

Louisvillekid1 · 09-10-12, 01:24 PM

On it as well

PhillyFlyers · 09-10-12, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by ttwarrior1

you dont really think ronnie brown will run on oakland do you.

Mcfadden is healthy and will run all over sandiego.

Rivers and gates might have a good game, but about it.

I see d h bey getting 100 yards and 1 td,
1 or 2 td for mcfadden

Oakland has a better o line and sandiego did not become a better team
this off season.

Floyd? Meacham??? lmao , good luck with that

If r mathews was 100 percent and playing, maybe they could win ,

but he is out.

Hell in fact floyd is banged up too and so are 3 o lineman and 5 defenders.

Wait, you criticize Floyd and Meachem but praise DHB? In case you haven't noticed DHB has hands like feet.

McFadden might run all over SD but then again he might also get hurt the first time he touches the ball and be out for 6 weeks. He never stays healthy.

Look at Oakland's secondary and tell me Rivers isn't smiling from ear to ear knowing what he's going to do to them tonight.

Ghenghis Kahn · 09-10-12, 01:28 PM

tt this isn't fantasy pal.

ridims · 09-10-12, 01:28 PM

wow someone who actually has some intelligence and reasoning behind his picks

RyanLeafOfBets · 09-10-12, 01:30 PM

Let's go SAN DIEGO!

ridims · 09-10-12, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

Wait, you criticize Floyd and Meachem but praise DHB? In case you haven't noticed DHB has hands like feet.

McFadden might run all over SD but then again he might also get hurt the first time he touches the ball and be out for 6 weeks. He never stays healthy.

Look at Oakland's secondary and tell me Rivers isn't smiling from ear to ear knowing what he's going to do to them tonight.

Rivers is a pick machine. Most over rated QB in the league. Had many opportunities to become successful. Still sucks. He will not have time to throw and will be running out of the pocket all night. He can move around but lets face it, he is not very accurate with his throws.

KingJD31 · 09-10-12, 01:30 PM

Gotta love this Oakland fascination, rivers going up against one of the worst defenses and your talking about Ronnie brown. Carson palmer will throw 2 picks

ridims · 09-10-12, 01:32 PM

Carson Palmer will not need to throw. Oakland has won games in the past with worse QB's.

onacloud · 09-10-12, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by ttwarrior1

you dont really think ronnie brown will run on oakland do you.

Mcfadden is healthy and will run all over sandiego.

Rivers and gates might have a good game, but about it.

I see d h bey getting 100 yards and 1 td,
1 or 2 td for mcfadden

Oakland has a better o line and sandiego did not become a better team
this off season.

Floyd? Meacham??? lmao , good luck with that

If r mathews was 100 percent and playing, maybe they could win ,

but he is out.

Hell in fact floyd is banged up too and so are 3 o lineman and 5 defenders.

You are saying that Floyd, Gates and Mecahmen aren't better targets than Heyward? Who else do the raiders have on offense besides McFadden? NO ONE

PhillyFlyers · 09-10-12, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by ridims

Rivers is a pick machine. Most over rated QB in the league. Had many opportunities to become successful. Still sucks. He will not have time to throw and will be running out of the pocket all night. He can move around but lets face it, he is not very accurate with his throws.

And Carson Palmer isn't?

Resler · 09-10-12, 01:35 PM

A big play for me also

ttwarrior1 · 09-10-12, 01:38 PM

carson can throw 3 int and they will still win

Huego · 09-10-12, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

Look at Oakland's secondary and tell me Rivers isn't smiling from ear to ear knowing what he's going to do to them tonight.

an effective pass rush is much more important than a good secondary. Raiders have one of the best d-lines in the league.

lakerboy · 09-10-12, 01:41 PM

Sd is most overrated team in the nfl. Oakland all day.

Resler · 09-10-12, 01:41 PM

But he won't

PhillyFlyers · 09-10-12, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Huego

an effective pass rush is much more important than a good secondary. Raiders have one of the best d-lines in the league.

I would agree with this statement if the opposing QB is a stationary statue, pocket only type QB.

Rivers has mobility.

ridims · 09-10-12, 01:43 PM

San Diego's O line is putrid .. thats all you really need to know. I don't care if you have the best QB in the league, that O line is down right awful and will be penetrated more times tonight then the whole cast in "womb raider"

PhillyFlyers · 09-10-12, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by ridims

San Diego's O line is putrid .. thats all you really need to know. I don't care if you have the best QB in the league, that O line is down right awful and will be penetrated more times tonight then the whole cast in "womb raider"

So SD can't run screens and slants all night against that putrid secondary of Oakland then?

Go ahead and blitz SD, Oakland will get burned all night.

ridims · 09-10-12, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

So SD can't run screens and slants all night against that putrid secondary of Oakland then?

Go ahead and blitz SD, Oakland will get burned all night.

if you gotta rely on running screens and slants all night then you will be in for a looonnngggg night.

Big Bear · 09-10-12, 01:47 PM

who the hell is DHB?

PhillyFlyers · 09-10-12, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by ridims

if you gotta rely on running screens and slants all night then you will be in for a looonnngggg night.

LOL not if the opposition wants to blitz you every down.

Big Bear · 09-10-12, 01:50 PM

Rivers is a pick machine... but so is Carson Palmer.. I really like Oakland here b/c Oakland's defense is nasty and they will have the home crowd behind them. But damn i just hate the fact that Palmer is the QB... he is terrible.

PhillyFlyers · 09-10-12, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

who the hell is DHB?

Darrius Heyward-Bey an Oakland wr. Most famous for having hands like feet. Expect at least 3 drops tonight from him that should have been easy catches.

ridims · 09-10-12, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

LOL not if the opposition wants to blitz you every down.

lets watch what unfolds tonight.

good luck either way.

Ghenghis Kahn · 09-10-12, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Sd is most overrated team in the nfl. Oakland all day.

this post makes me wanna go big on sd...

ridims · 09-10-12, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

this post makes me wanna go big on sd...

well you got to admit, SD is always picked to do well but always fails. That team is a constant proven failure.

PhillyFlyers · 09-10-12, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by ridims

lets watch what unfolds tonight.

good luck either way.

Yeah definitely man. GL to everybody.

MeatWad · 09-10-12, 02:10 PM

Nice pick and analysis. San Diego is overrated this year due to some of the past production of some of their skill position players and racking up wins in a down conference in the past. At one point last year they lost 6 in a row.

Altough San Diego did win in Oakland the final week of last season, McFadden fully healthy is a beast and adds a much needed dynamic/explosive element to that offense, and will take some of the pressure off Palmer who never really played with with McFadden last year, maybe part of 1 game or 1 game tops?

Palmer should improve this year after getting wildly thrown into the offense last year mid season. He should be better acclimated to the system and enjoy having a true #1 RB in the backfield. He did play fairly well down the stretch last year, especially in his last 4 home games getting over 300 yds passing each game. He also should enjoy going against SD, a team he racked up over 400 yds on in the final game of last season in Oakland.

Oakland was 4-2 with McFadden in the lineup against a tough schedule before they lost his production (100+ yds rush+ rec/game) last year. I expect the Raiders to come out of the gate strong like last year with McFadden and beat San Diego, a team on decline with aging, decaying personnel, who I bet to have a worse year than projected by their o/u win projection totals as well.

GL with your pick and hopefully the Raiders can rekindle some of that Old School Monday night magic that they had back in the days. Defense is always an issue with Oak, but hopefully they can exploit SD's aging players, and SD's rookie LT who was undrafted and not overly impressive when he played at UCLA last season.

Go Beavers · 09-10-12, 02:18 PM

Heyward Bey's hands were garbage his 1st and 2nd years but he was much improved in catching/route-running last year.
Watch out for Streeter, he could see a lot of playing time and I believe Oakland has found a diamond in the rough with this one.
Gates should have a big night but I dont believe the wideouts for San Diego will. McFadden will have a huge night
I'm on the Raiders here.

briedward · 09-10-12, 02:34 PM

The key you guys aren't seeing is LT Gaither isn't playing. This means rivers is going to have a rough day. Rivers sucked last season before they picked up Gaither. After Gaither joined, Rivers got .5 seconds more time to throw, which vastly improved his performance. No Gaither tonight means I'm betting big on Raiders.

KingJD31 · 09-10-12, 02:53 PM

There oline is shaky but raiders don't have pass rush chargers have better one

KingJD31 · 09-10-12, 02:55 PM

Watch out for Ingram and reyes