Junior Seau: Suicide or Murder?

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  • will2survive
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    • 11-26-09
    • 8099

    #1
    Junior Seau: Suicide or Murder?



    I don't want to hear about sleeping pills. Hell, I take prescribed steroids and oxycodone for my operation along with a little anxiety pills (not afraid to admit. Most people take anxiety meds)


    This guy lived clean, did everything right with charitable work, loved his kids, the community loved him, is a future NFL Hall of famer, his family loved him, he had his own restaurant, and the USC community loved him and he loved them. What more can a person do? That's a great life.


    I do however see that some of Seau's family has gang ties and when that's involved, there's trouble. Gangs take their Heritage (Samoan's especially)very serious


    Could he have killed himself, quite possibly, but WHY? This man was on top of the world, NO CONCUSSIONS were detected, no alcohol, no drugs (except for minor sleeping pill). This guy was a clean liver and role model. I wish that we could find out the truth. This is a tragedy because this guy is a hero and a hero for kids to get out of gangs. This really sucks.
  • Wilfred
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    • 08-19-12
    • 1908

    #2
    While I do think he killed himself murder could be a possibility. Can't understand why he would shoot himself in the chest instead of the head.
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    • milwaukee mike
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      • 08-22-07
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      #3
      it sucks that we never get the whole truth with stuff like junior seau, elvis, michael jackson, jfk, etc etc

      i would guess that at least 80% of famous people "suicides" aren't suicides
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      • boeing power
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        • 03-23-10
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        #4
        You can live a great life but depression can still take you down.

        too bad it happened to Junior.
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        • detroitlionsfan
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          • 04-30-12
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          #5
          Ive been trying to tell people

          this has conspiracy written all over it

          probly never know the truth tho
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          • Easy-Rider 66
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            • 02-14-12
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            #6
            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
            it sucks that we never get the whole truth with stuff like junior seau, elvis, michael jackson, jfk, etc etc

            i would guess that at least 80% of famous people "suicides" aren't suicides
            That's an high estimate. Being famous can be an extra burden on some people.
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            • GUMMO77
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              • 08-23-10
              • 9294

              #7
              Originally posted by boeing power
              You can live a great life but depression can still take you down.

              too bad it happened to Junior.

              Depression can affect anyone; rich, poor, famous, lonely it doesn't matter.

              I've known a few people that have killed themselves and not to sound cliche, but they were the last people on earth, in my mind, that would have done it.
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              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                • 03-11-11
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                #8
                obvious suicide
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                • Chi_archie
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                  • 07-22-08
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                  #9
                  strange situation. they are studying his brain
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                  • bobby heenan
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                    • 03-20-09
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wilfred
                    While I do think he killed himself murder could be a possibility. Can't understand why he would shoot himself in the chest instead of the head.
                    The theory is that he knew what he was going through...and knew what probably caused it....shot in the chest to preserve his brain for study....that's the theory anyway....playing lb and rb in the nfl is like getting in a car wreck every week...no exaggeration....here's a guy that spent half of his life in the nfl....almost all of his adult life
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                    • SBR Lou
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                      • 08-02-07
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                      #11
                      Or, he didn't want to force his family to have a closed casket funeral?
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                      • Wilfred
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                        • 08-19-12
                        • 1908

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bobby heenan
                        The theory is that he knew what he was going through...and knew what probably caused it....shot in the chest to preserve his brain for study....that's the theory anyway....playing lb and rb in the nfl is like getting in a car wreck every week...no exaggeration....here's a guy that spent half of his life in the nfl....almost all of his adult life
                        I know that's what they are saying, but the fact that there was no note left makes me think that reason isnt true. Plus his brain had no symptoms of it.
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                        • GUMMO77
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                          • 08-23-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by SBR Lou
                          Or, he didn't want to force his family to have a closed casket funeral?

                          Good point.
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                          • turtlejc
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                            • 10-18-11
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                            #14
                            He owed 6-7 figures to the bookies and sharks to go along with using his head as a battering ram for years and years = suicide
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                            • MUHerd37
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                              • 10-23-09
                              • 12816

                              #15
                              He could have had depression or a lot of other things. We will never know why, but seems like definite suicide.
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                              • EmpireMaker
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                                • 06-18-09
                                • 15602

                                #16
                                it was a suicide
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                                • will2survive
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                                  • 11-26-09
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                  strange situation. they are studying his brain
                                  Archie: his brain was fine and clear from concussions
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                                  • winslow9675
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                                    • 04-27-12
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                                    #18
                                    Very sad thing. I believe it was suicide.
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                                    • paranoyd androyd
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                                      • 10-01-11
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by turtlejc
                                      He owed 6-7 figures to the bookies and sharks to go along with using his head as a battering ram for years and years = suicide
                                      link to this or just trying to be funny?
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                                      • Chi_archie
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                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63182

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by will2survive
                                        Archie: his brain was fine and clear from concussions

                                        based on what? are you a doctor? did you examine him?
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                                        • MUHerd37
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                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 12816

                                          #21
                                          The family donated pieces of his brain for testing, but have they ever said anything about results?
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                                          • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 19736

                                            #22
                                            didn't jr. try to kill himself by driving off of a cliff?
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                                            • will2survive
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                                              • 11-26-09
                                              • 8099

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MUHerd37
                                              The family donated pieces of his brain for testing, but have they ever said anything about results?

                                              Yes, I have to rush out but it's confirmed that there was no brain trauma-concussions from the Institute in Massachusetts
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                                              • Chi_archie
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                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 63182

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by will2survive
                                                Yes, I have to rush out but it's confirmed that there was no brain trauma-concussions from the Institute in Massachusetts

                                                oops I wasn't aware of this! thanks
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                                                • Smoke
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                                                  • 10-09-09
                                                  • 48111

                                                  #25
                                                  It was murder

                                                  The illuminati killed him
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                                                  • paranoyd androyd
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                                                    • 10-01-11
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                                                    #26
                                                    guy had been depressed for a few years (hence the trouble sleeping) and was in recent financial trouble, simple as that.
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                                                    • onacloud
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                                                      • 10-14-10
                                                      • 5360

                                                      #27


                                                      Tried to drive off a cliff after a domestic dispute... this time he didn't want to survive so he used a gun
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                                                      • cruzing vato
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 02-21-12
                                                        • 538

                                                        #28
                                                        The Fed's DHHS are pushing some concussion research agenda, n so they have to kill a bunch of physical bang up atheletes.. Is like 'if you played sports, yur crazy now' sale. Same old bull shoot, not that yu hear it from Vato
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                                                        • will2survive
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                                                          • 11-26-09
                                                          • 8099

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                          oops I wasn't aware of this! thanks

                                                          It's okay! I know just by reading your threads and watching your videos that you're an intelligent person. Not a problem, friend. It's actually my fault. The link that I provided didn't give that extra info like other links did. Very sad story. Seau followed the rules and either a gang or something inside Junior that was bothering him and he didn't know how to overcome it. It doesn't take away from all of the good that he did in his life for other people.
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                                                          • The Kraken
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                                                            • 12-25-11
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                                                            #30
                                                            It's really odd to shoot one's self in the chest for suicide. Almost all suicidal shootings are head shots. It's also rare that no alcohol or drugs are involved.

                                                            So while these findings don't point towards murder or rule out suicide, I think it's prudent to at least consider the question. With that said, I will assume the detectives have all the facts and nothing points towards murder or they would be investigating those leads.
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                                                            • Chi_archie
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                                                              • 07-22-08
                                                              • 63182

                                                              #31
                                                              I think i was kinda mixing in the chicago bears dave duerson suicide where he shot himself in the chest, and left a note saying that he wanted his brain studied.

                                                              he'd had really really really bad depression and other issues due to many concussions ect
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                                                              • will2survive
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                                                                • 11-26-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                It's really odd to shoot one's self in the chest for suicide. Almost all suicidal shootings are head shots. It's also rare that no alcohol or drugs are involved.

                                                                So while these findings don't point towards murder or rule out suicide, I think it's prudent to at least consider the question. With that said, I will assume the detectives have all the facts and nothing points towards murder or they would be investigating those leads.


                                                                The authorities didn't seem to go the murder route and I'm surprised because some of Seau's family members had gang related ties.
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                                                                • will2survive
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                                                                  • 11-26-09
                                                                  • 8099

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                                  I think i was kinda mixing in the chicago bears dave duerson suicide where he shot himself in the chest, and left a note saying that he wanted his brain studied.

                                                                  he'd had really really really bad depression and other issues due to many concussions ect

                                                                  Duerson was similar to that of the Eagles Andre Waters. Major brain damage and dementia. Waters had the brain of like an 80 year old. All of these guys were warriors, great players and involved in serious contact.
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                                                                  • The Giant
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                                                                    • 01-21-12
                                                                    • 21480

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Everyone's always looking for the conspiracy theories.

                                                                    So silly.

                                                                    He's dead. Self-inflicted. End of story.

                                                                    Now let's get back to mourning the loss of Phyllis Diller. She was so young.
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                                                                    • baskets
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-24-11
                                                                      • 11691

                                                                      #35
                                                                      never seen so many modern day Americans suckking off the dick of dead athletes.... guys that were gifted millions and millions to live a fantastic, glorious life.... and then dumb lemmings weaping over them like little bitches

                                                                      you think Kobe Bryant or LeBron gives two shits about you guys or would shed a tear...... yet if those animals died, you'd be the first ones to sneak into the funeral home at night to suck their dead dicks


                                                                      and I love the logic: Yep, I'm selfish enuff to kill myself..... but I don't want my face to be blown off so they can still view my pretty face and mourn me.... ha ha. that's pretty fukking vain and selfish right there

                                                                      yeah, I'll leave my family, friends forever.... but if I can preserve my face for them, we're good

                                                                      let's face it: Seau was a physically imposing strong guy at 6'4, 270 lbs.... but he was a pussy who couldn't mentally take it

                                                                      LIBERAL EXCUSES COMING IN ...... 3, 2, 1 .....
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