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  • The Kraken
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-25-11
    • 28918

    #351
    Originally posted by matt711
    Kraken..... another expert
    You've got THREE whole words in your post...........

    And you missed a word?



    C'mon clown. You forgot to type 1/3rd of your entire thought



    Maybe... Just maybe, you don't get to decide who the experts are and aren't.

    Focus more on not missing 1 out of every 3 words

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    • phillybadboy
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-11-09
      • 9383

      #352
      kraken leave him alone dumfuk
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      • The Kraken
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-25-11
        • 28918

        #353
        Hey pal, this isn't the fukking Red Cross
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        • frogsrangers
          Restricted User
          • 04-25-12
          • 5792

          #354
          Research:

          Since July 18 - Overs: 115 ... Unders: 138 ... Push: 20


          Positive Factors: 130 ... Negative Factors: 140 ... Positive Factors Over/Under: 51 / 69 (57.5%) ... Negative Factors Over/Under: 61 / 69 (53.1%)




          Negative Factor Breakdown:
          0 to -1: Over 15 / Under 15
          -1 to -2: Over 12 / Under 7
          -2 to -3: Over 6 / Under 11
          -3 to -4: Over 9 / Under 10
          -4 to -5: Over 6 / Under 10
          -5 to -6: Over 5 / Under 9

          -6 and up: Over 8 / Under 7

          Positive Factor Breakdown:
          0 to 1: Over 13 / Under 20
          1 to 2: Over 10 / Under 12
          2 to 3: Over 12 / Under 11
          3 to 4: Over 7 / Under 6
          4 to 5: Over 4 / Under 4
          5 to 6: Over 2 / Under 4
          6 and up: Over 3 / Under 12

          Profit in this sample size seems to be playing unders on a negative factor between -2 and -6 which has yielded an under result 60.6% of the time... and playing unders on factors 6 and up which yields an under 80% of the time. Combine these two angles and its yielding under 64.2% of the time.

          The only profitable place to play an over has been factors of -1 to -2 and +2 to +4, but its a razor thin margin within the margin for error so not recommended.

          Funny that the "extremes", factors of over 6 or -6 have yielded opposite expected results. I attribute this to the "too good to be true" effect, which makes a lot of sense.

          Going to try and breakdown this even further with posted totals.
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          • frogsrangers
            Restricted User
            • 04-25-12
            • 5792

            #355
            When the factor is over 6, if the posted total is 8.0-9.5 it has gone under 100% of the time (5 out of 5)

            When the factor is between -2 and -6, if the posted total is 7.5 to 9.5 it has gone under 71.1% of the time (32 out of 45)

            Combine this and its 37 out of 50, or 74% success

            Will have to remember this
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            • fitguy67
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-13-11
              • 5082

              #356
              appreciate your letting us follow along every step of the way on the developments of this "work in progress"...
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              • frogsrangers
                Restricted User
                • 04-25-12
                • 5792

                #357
                Not a lot here today.... only 1 game falls into the 74% criteria from the research yesterday... Washington/Houston

                -10.170 ARI/PIT
                -6.162 SEA/BAL
                -4.015 WAS/HOU
                -1.096 MIN/CLE
                -0.816 CIN/MIL
                -0.745 ATL/PHI
                -0.728 CHC/SD
                -0.344 KAN/CHW
                0.044 LAA/OAK
                0.804 NYY/DET
                1.546 COL/LAD
                5.560 SF/STL
                6.621 TEX/BOS
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                • frogsrangers
                  Restricted User
                  • 04-25-12
                  • 5792

                  #358
                  Plays:

                  Washington/Houston U 8.5

                  That's it
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                  • frogsrangers
                    Restricted User
                    • 04-25-12
                    • 5792

                    #359
                    Adding: SEA/BAL U 8.5

                    I know it falls outside of the -2 to -6 range, but just barely and at 8.5 and the first game of a series with Baltimore coming back from a road trip I am willing to roll the dice here
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                    • matt711
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-09-12
                      • 2288

                      #360
                      Kraken, Didnt miss a word,just decided not to be ignorant like you......Do you get it......I also dont have to bash people......or post pics of my vacations, to get attention. If you dont like someones methods dont follow....seem like a big bully to me.
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                      • High3rEl3m3nt
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-28-10
                        • 8022

                        #361
                        GL frogs!! Glad you are still running this and are being more selective. You are one of SBR's winners.
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                        • mathdotcom
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-24-08
                          • 11689

                          #362
                          Originally posted by frogsrangers
                          Not a lot here today.... only 1 game falls into the 74% criteria from the research yesterday... Washington/Houston

                          -10.170 ARI/PIT
                          -6.162 SEA/BAL
                          -4.015 WAS/HOU
                          -1.096 MIN/CLE
                          -0.816 CIN/MIL
                          -0.745 ATL/PHI
                          -0.728 CHC/SD
                          -0.344 KAN/CHW
                          0.044 LAA/OAK
                          0.804 NYY/DET
                          1.546 COL/LAD
                          5.560 SF/STL
                          6.621 TEX/BOS
                          what do these #s mean again?
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                          • frogsrangers
                            Restricted User
                            • 04-25-12
                            • 5792

                            #363
                            Originally posted by mathdotcom
                            what do these #s mean again?
                            The lower the number, the more under friendly it is
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                            • mathdotcom
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-24-08
                              • 11689

                              #364
                              Yeah but if it's -4 or -5, what's the difference? How do you know whether U7.5 -125 on a game is good or not?
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                              • Double Bogey
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-24-10
                                • 1465

                                #365
                                A lot of mumbo jumbo. You need to calculate the % chance a game will go over/under to gauge value on the price. Picking a side isn't enough, you have to make sure you're getting value in your bets as well
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                                • frogsrangers
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 04-25-12
                                  • 5792

                                  #366
                                  Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                  Yeah but if it's -4 or -5, what's the difference? How do you know whether U7.5 -125 on a game is good or not?
                                  Originally posted by Double Bogey
                                  A lot of mumbo jumbo. You need to calculate the % chance a game will go over/under to gauge value on the price. Picking a side isn't enough, you have to make sure you're getting value in your bets as well
                                  I plan on getting there but its still early. Right now I am just building up a database because the sample size is still small. Probably won't even be fully integrated in ways like you say until next season. Can't do much right now with a small sample size. I do not advise anyone to make bets on these numbers but to just follow the progress.

                                  But for people who do follow this thread and want to make bets based on the numbers I have pointed out the trends to play based on the small sample size so far.
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                                  • The Kraken
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 12-25-11
                                    • 28918

                                    #367
                                    Originally posted by matt711
                                    Kraken, Didnt miss a word,just decided not to be ignorant like you......Do you get it......I also dont have to bash people......or post pics of my vacations, to get attention. If you dont like someones methods dont follow....seem like a big bully to me.
                                    ??? You put in your reason for edit "missed a word". Now, I'm no Edison but that sure seems to me that you "missed a word". Not sure how else to take it.

                                    You do things your way matty, I'll do them mine. You don't like them, I don't give a fukk. But when someone comes out with this bullshit calculator and gets guys tailing them, I'm gonna speak my piece whether you think it's bullying or not. Got that? I'm not asking you for permission. Last warning.

                                    I've got 3 or 4 more vacations this year, I'll be sure to post those pics up as well so you can see what your're missing out on. Just another service I provide. For Free!
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                                    • frogsrangers
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 04-25-12
                                      • 5792

                                      #368
                                      I just converted stats to sabermetrics that use log5 formulas where it could benefit. Namely the "crude" total so its not as crude anymore, and some batting average stats.

                                      Excited to see what it will bring tomorrow
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                                      • frogsrangers
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 04-25-12
                                        • 5792

                                        #369
                                        Originally posted by Double Bogey
                                        A lot of mumbo jumbo. You need to calculate the % chance a game will go over/under to gauge value on the price. Picking a side isn't enough, you have to make sure you're getting value in your bets as well
                                        How can you calculate a probability percentage on totals? We aren't using percentages here that can apply a log5 or pyth formula. I think for totals you have to guesstimate a total and then compare it to the posted total(which is why my system does).
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                                        • ronald
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-31-05
                                          • 4919

                                          #370
                                          Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                          The lower the number, the more under friendly it is
                                          So why didn't you play the UNDER in the Pirates game tonight? Wasn't that the most under-friendly game?
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                                          • mathdotcom
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-24-08
                                            • 11689

                                            #371
                                            froggy your goal should be to come up with a single total with an attached line

                                            this approach is 90% caping and 10% model

                                            as donald pointed out you're not even following your own numbers
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                                            • fitguy67
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 03-13-11
                                              • 5082

                                              #372
                                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                                              ??? You put in your reason for edit "missed a word". Now, I'm no Edison but that sure seems to me that you "missed a word". Not sure how else to take it.

                                              You do things your way matty, I'll do them mine. You don't like them, I don't give a fukk. But when someone comes out with this bullshit calculator and gets guys tailing them, I'm gonna speak my piece whether you think it's bullying or not. Got that? I'm not asking you for permission. Last warning.

                                              I've got 3 or 4 more vacations this year, I'll be sure to post those pics up as well so you can see what your're missing out on. Just another service I provide. For Free!
                                              Isn't there some sort of sbr regulation (or at least a well-established "tradition") that in order to qualify to be such a blatantly- and consistently-abrasive sphinctre as we see exhibited in the above "contribution"...one must first achieve the status of Pro?

                                              Maybe there's some sort of underground sphinctre-apprenticeship program that may ultimately "earn" this pathetic blow-hard the coveted "recognition" by the PWOSEIMLABCDR (pros with obvious self-esteem issues...most-likely aggravated by chronic diaper-rash) that he tries so hard to emulate, to the point of what psychologists call "overcompensation" (Look guys, I'm a non-pro...but i can be an even more-disruptive douche...recognize me...oh please recognize...sigh...damn if i just had $200 bucks, life'd be so much easier...)
                                              _________

                                              Analysts studying the proliferation of posts such as that quoted above--EITHER excreted by the traditional pro "author" OR by this new sort of non-pro suck-up--have recently come up with a simple, easy to remember acronym to capture all those who regularly extrude counter-productive endlessly-argumentative keyboard crap like this...
                                              TITs(Thread-Infesting Twats).

                                              We can look at and laugh at like this...and talk ABOUT them if we want to pity or analyze the pathetic lives that give rise to their posts...just don't talk TO them directly...this will starve them of what they crave (the attention of their obvious intellectual superiors)...oh, they may "flare up" initially at their being unmasked (and pitied rather than feared)...but eventually, like un-scratched acne...they'll just dry up and go away.
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                                              • frogsrangers
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 04-25-12
                                                • 5792

                                                #373
                                                Originally posted by ronald
                                                So why didn't you play the UNDER in the Pirates game tonight? Wasn't that the most under-friendly game?
                                                Because in the short 3 week history of this model, factors of -6 or lower have actually gone over more than under.

                                                But I have done a lot of overhauling and revamping today, so tomorrow is going to bring about a new approach. I made it more mathematically sound, so it should be better.

                                                I will be making a new thread as well, because I feel the changes are that significant
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                                                • Inspirited
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-26-10
                                                  • 1789

                                                  #374
                                                  This seems like trend mining. You should learn move advanced approaches. If you have the ability to program this, I'd imagine you have the ability to learn more advanced modeling techniques.
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                                                  • figue
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-23-10
                                                    • 2524

                                                    #375
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                                                    • mathdotcom
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-24-08
                                                      • 11689

                                                      #376
                                                      Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                                      Because in the short 3 week history of this model, factors of -6 or lower have actually gone over more than under.

                                                      But I have done a lot of overhauling and revamping today, so tomorrow is going to bring about a new approach. I made it more mathematically sound, so it should be better.

                                                      I will be making a new thread as well, because I feel the changes are that significant
                                                      I called this from day one.

                                                      Don't you realize you have a garbage model when you aren't interested in following its strongest predictions?

                                                      I'm not even sure if you're up or not, but if you want to keep your money I suggest you abandon this model now. You'll thank me later, I promise you.
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                                                      • notsoeasymoney
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 08-07-12
                                                        • 1

                                                        #377
                                                        Actually signed up for an acct today just to tell you frogs that I like what you have been doing been following for the posts and appreciate you sharing been using this as yet another tool to help cap games. thanks

                                                        "math" there's no reason to hate... you dont like it get lost
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                                                        • ronald
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-31-05
                                                          • 4919

                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                                          Because in the short 3 week history of this model, factors of -6 or lower have actually gone over more than under.

                                                          But I have done a lot of overhauling and revamping today, so tomorrow is going to bring about a new approach. I made it more mathematically sound, so it should be better.

                                                          I will be making a new thread as well, because I feel the changes are that significant
                                                          You would have gone 4-0 yesterday if you had played your top two OVERS and your top two UNDERS. I don't understand why you build a model a certain way and then reject the data it's giving you. This is bizarre. Trust your model or abandon it altogether.

                                                          We are trying to help you here.
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                                                          • Double Bogey
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-24-10
                                                            • 1465

                                                            #379
                                                            Nobody's hating, they are actually trying to save people money. I agree it's rather odd to create a model and then disregard it's output.
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                                                            • nikossf
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-02-10
                                                              • 2217

                                                              #380
                                                              how we lookin' today, frogs?
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                                                              • frogsrangers
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 04-25-12
                                                                • 5792

                                                                #381
                                                                With new changes comes a new thread.

                                                                Please check out "TOTALCON Mark II" thread from here on out



                                                                Mods, if you want to lock this thread, please feel free to do so.
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