Are We All Chasing Detroit And Verlander Today???

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  • hydrosmak
    SBR MVP
    • 10-13-11
    • 1908

    #36
    Originally posted by billysink
    Here's what I see.

    Masterson is and has always been plagued by his inability to get lefthanded batters out. His three year splits and this years's as well show an OPS and a BA that are very polarized lefty righty. Leyland has 5 lefties in the lineup today. Miggy hits Masterson well. Masterson is a ground ball pitcher but he has also had command issues this year having issued 5+ walks three times already. Leyland has been preaching patience of late, we may see a few runners on base early for the Tigs.

    I would have like Cleveland's chances more with their patent all lefty lineup but an injury to Hafner in last nights game, the continued unavailability of Jack Hanrahan and the day game forcing Marson instead of Santana (who will DH); leave 3 righties in the lineup. Several Indians batters, Damon, Brantley, Lopez, Kotchman have extemely low strikeout rates against Verlander. We may see a bit more contact than usual in this one off Verlander. I am not seeing one of those 14 K games from him. We might see a few innings from the shit Tiger bully here as Leyland is trying not to go crazy this year. Verlander off two low pitch count games may fool me on this though. If the Indians can make him grind a bit and I think they may, the bullpen is shit against lefties.

    Wind blowing straight out to left today and forecast to do so full game. 7 is the number and I think we may see a few runs here.

    I am gonna have a go at Detroit -.5 first five -114 and the game total over 7 +104.

    Probably too much info for this thread but what the fuk.

    Good luck gents.
    Love reading your analysis billy. Don't hold back on us if you have the urge to drop some knowledge...
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    • Deuce
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 01-12-08
      • 29843

      #37
      Detroit first 5 is solid. Verlander can go 8 and Detroit still loses due to Benoit and Dotel/Valverde being putrid.
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      • stuntin909
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-05-10
        • 933

        #38
        Cleveland +1.5 -105 here. GL yal
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        • Chi_archie
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-22-08
          • 63167

          #39
          Indians will play inspired ball in front of 6-7 THOUSAND fans today
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          • billysink
            Restricted User
            • 03-29-09
            • 5172

            #40
            Originally posted by hydrosmak
            Love reading your analysis billy. Don't hold back on us if you have the urge to drop some knowledge...
            Thanks brother, not sure one of JJ's threads is intended for a informational type of post but again what the fuk.
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            • stuntin909
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-05-10
              • 933

              #41
              Verlander 13-0 in last 14 road games. Wow
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              • Brock Landers
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 06-30-08
                • 45359

                #42
                Going with Detroit
                Fuk it
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                • Smoke
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-09-09
                  • 48111

                  #43
                  This thread is just to get guys to gamble

                  That's what jj wants
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                  • cdaniels24
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 02-17-12
                    • 319

                    #44
                    Last time these two faced off the o/u was 6.5 and the final score was 8-6. Don't know if that means anything now
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                    • JESSE1014
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 02-01-11
                      • 476

                      #45
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                      Originally posted by stuntin909
                      Cleveland +1.5 -105 here. GL yal
                      Hope you did not take the galaxy last night, talk about choke job..............
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                      • THEINSIDER900
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-22-12
                        • 125

                        #46
                        you will all losers indians will win today easy
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                        • rm18
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-20-05
                          • 22291

                          #47
                          no bet would of took indians if Hafner played
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                          • LoneStar
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-11-09
                            • 190

                            #48
                            7-3 Detroit (-3) & Over
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65499

                              #49
                              Verlander -1.5 +EV is my play.
                              Verlander strike out rate against the Tribe is 1:3.5 at bats.
                              That number is not just eye popping, it's a huge sample size (346 at bats) and suggests that even if JV gets in a little jam, he can strike his way out of it just about anytime.
                              Also, unlike 90 percent of the rest of the league's starters who go deep into the seventh inning, Verlander can finish what he starts, even if it does mean 125 pitches.

                              JV -1.5 ftw for me.
                              Last edited by stevenash; 05-24-12, 11:10 AM. Reason: changed the + sign to a - sign
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                              • Mjh702
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 12-18-11
                                • 114

                                #50
                                Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                i'm on detroit -1.5
                                I'm on the same, let's cash this! and to avril
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                                • No coincidences
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-18-10
                                  • 76300

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                  Going with Detroit
                                  Fuk it
                                  Classic.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65499

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by billysink
                                    Here's what I see.

                                    Masterson is and has always been plagued by his inability to get lefthanded batters out. His three year splits and this years's as well show an OPS and a BA that are very polarized lefty righty. Leyland has 5 lefties in the lineup today. Miggy hits Masterson well. Masterson is a ground ball pitcher but he has also had command issues this year having issued 5+ walks three times already. Leyland has been preaching patience of late, we may see a few runners on base early for the Tigs.

                                    I would have like Cleveland's chances more with their patent all lefty lineup but an injury to Hafner in last nights game, the continued unavailability of Jack Hanrahan and the day game forcing Marson instead of Santana (who will DH); leave 3 righties in the lineup. Several Indians batters, Damon, Brantley, Lopez, Kotchman have extemely low strikeout rates against Verlander. We may see a bit more contact than usual in this one off Verlander. I am not seeing one of those 14 K games from him. We might see a few innings from the shit Tiger bully here as Leyland is trying not to go crazy this year. Verlander off two low pitch count games may fool me on this though. If the Indians can make him grind a bit and I think they may, the bullpen is shit against lefties.

                                    Wind blowing straight out to left today and forecast to do so full game. 7 is the number and I think we may see a few runs here.

                                    I am gonna have a go at Detroit -.5 first five -114 and the game total over 7 +104.

                                    Probably too much info for this thread but what the fuk.

                                    Good luck gents.
                                    This is the reason why I come here, intelligent posters that put in the time and share it.
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                                    • remeedella
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-17-12
                                      • 4089

                                      #53
                                      3 pitches and little azn pitcher for cleveland home runs, I think first in last 5 years or I could be wrong on that. I had this gut feeling watching play by play it might happen. dunno y
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                                      • I Don't Want Fop
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 05-23-12
                                        • 3

                                        #54
                                        Just started

                                        Went 2-0 yesterday

                                        Going with Detroit ML
                                        Pacers +3.5
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                                        • ZetaPsi808
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-18-08
                                          • 12119

                                          #55
                                          Choo leads off with an upper deck home run

                                          454 feet
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                                          • Brock Landers
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 06-30-08
                                            • 45359

                                            #56
                                            1-0 Cleveland

                                            fukking leadoff homer for choo

                                            Unreal
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                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 19734

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by remeedella
                                              3 pitches and little azn pitcher for cleveland home runs, I think first in last 5 years or I could be wrong on that. I had this gut feeling watching play by play it might happen. dunno y
                                              what little azn pitcher? choo is a good hitter. he was batting third most of last year.
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                                              • THEINSIDER900
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 02-22-12
                                                • 125

                                                #58
                                                this may be to easy
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                                                • stuntin909
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-05-10
                                                  • 933

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by JESSE1014
                                                  Hope you did not take the galaxy last night, talk about choke job..............
                                                  Took the over! Lmao. Trust man I know my team n have no problem fading them. Hit Toronto +500 a month back. Knew they were going to suck this year. They'll turn it around soon though.
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                                                  • No coincidences
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                    • 76300

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                    1-0 Cleveland

                                                    fukking leadoff homer for choo

                                                    Unreal
                                                    Verlander never pitches particularly well vs. Cleveland, the Tiger bats are stone cold, and you laid -165 on the road against the better team in a day game.

                                                    I'm sure you considered all of that before you made the play though, right?
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                                                    • Powderguy
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-18-09
                                                      • 6939

                                                      #61
                                                      we're all down 1-0 in the 1st lol
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                                                      • stevenash
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                        • 65499

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Powderguy
                                                        we're all down 1-0 in the 1st lol
                                                        Honest to God, it's not like they got 24 outs left or anything?
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                                                        • BuddyBear
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 7233

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                          Verlander never pitches particularly well vs. Cleveland, the Tiger bats are stone cold, and you laid -165 on the road against the better team in a day game.

                                                          I'm sure you considered all of that before you made the play though, right?
                                                          No offense, the Indians are not a better team than the Tigers. Just b/c they have a better record does not mean they are better. If they are the better team, why are they such big underdogs this afternoon?
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                                                          • No coincidences
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-18-10
                                                            • 76300

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                            No offense, the Indians are not a better team than the Tigers. Just b/c they have a better record does not mean they are better. If they are the better team, why are they such big underdogs this afternoon?
                                                            Because Verlander is pitching. He could be -200 and people would take the bait. Truth is, he's barely above .500 in his career vs. the Tribe with an ERA of like 4.8.

                                                            Does Cleveland have more talent than Detroit? No. Is Cleveland a better team than Detroit right now? Without question.
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                                                            • DudleyDawson
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-10-12
                                                              • 5658

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                              Because Verlander is pitching. He could be -200 and people would take the bait. Truth is, he's barely above .500 in his career vs. the Tribe with an ERA of like 4.8.

                                                              Does Cleveland have more talent than Detroit? No. Is Cleveland a better team than Detroit right now? Without question.
                                                              And Masterson is 0-4 with a 5.14 lifetime ERA against the Tigers, what's your point?
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                                                              • zoo youk
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-23-11
                                                                • 10701

                                                                #66
                                                                terrible base running. what are you doing breaking towards home on a hard hit ball to 3rd. these guys are so dumb.
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                                                                • THEINSIDER900
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 02-22-12
                                                                  • 125

                                                                  #67
                                                                  is masterson the best
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                                                                  • Brock Landers
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 06-30-08
                                                                    • 45359

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Boesch gunned down at the plate
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                                                                    • ZetaPsi808
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-18-08
                                                                      • 12119

                                                                      #69
                                                                      boesch thrown out at fukkin home
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                                                                      • No coincidences
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-18-10
                                                                        • 76300

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                                                        And Masterson is 0-4 with a 5.14 lifetime ERA against the Tigers, what's your point?
                                                                        My point is the Indians are playing well right now and the Tigers aren't. How you can lay -165 right now on Detroit is beyond me, but good luck.
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