Is Heritage dealing dual lines now?

[Kindred]

guys defending dual lines are clueless idiots

[5mike5]

guys defending dual lines are clueless idiots

[BranchDavidian]

I know very few books that do not have dual lines

Good business practice

Looks like SBR has hired a clueless idiot to be a paid poster!

[jjgold]

Locals do it all the time

I know local bettors that bet same shit all the time is bookie jacks line up on them

Same thing

If Poster A always bets overs I will profile him and have his account go into juiced overs group

You guys have no clue

[yisman]

jj defending shady books. Unreal.

[BranchDavidian]

]Locals do it all the time
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I know local bettors that bet same shit all the time is bookie jacks line up on them

Same thing

If Poster A always bets overs I will profile him and have his account go into juiced overs group

You guys have no clue

A lot of locals are crooks, just as the books that deal dual lines are crooks. Since you stated that almost all books do deal dual lines and you still play, I guess you don't mind getting a worse payout than what should be the payout according to the odds published by your book?

[BigDaddy]

how is thread still going

where is the proof?

unreal

[jjgold]

It's not being a crook at all
Bowmans was book that started profiling 10 years ago.

If you think your being profiled outguess them and bet other side

Books have a right to do whatever they want.

[TheCentaur]

how is thread still going

where is the proof?

unreal

I already recanted it

[lecubs28]

Are Heritage dealing dual lines for real now? I've seen several inconsistencies the last few days between SBR Lines and Heritage's actual line. For example, right now SBR has Heritage dealing -116/107 on Reds/Pirates, but when I log in to Heritage, I see -118/109. Does anyone see -116/107? Could just be an issue with their feed.

[CarpeDime]

Are Heritage dealing dual lines for real now? I've seen several inconsistencies the last few days between SBR Lines and Heritage's actual line. For example, right now SBR has Heritage dealing -116/107 on Reds/Pirates, but when I log in to Heritage, I see -118/109. Does anyone see -116/107? Could just be an issue with their feed.

ganch doesn't need to deal dual lines lecer

[Sam Odom]

The problem some of you may be having is the difference in SBR_Lines & live lines at Heritage - As great as SBR_Lines are they do lag

[durito]

ganch doesn't need to deal dual lines lecer

Well someone is doing it.

[LT Profits]

Well someone is doing it.

It's not simply a lag thing? Seems Sports Options is only service showing moves in real time.

[LT Profits]

Are Heritage dealing dual lines for real now? I've seen several inconsistencies the last few days between SBR Lines and Heritage's actual line. For example, right now SBR has Heritage dealing -116/107 on Reds/Pirates, but when I log in to Heritage, I see -118/109. Does anyone see -116/107? Could just be an issue with their feed.

Hmm, I don't see -118/109 at anytime, SO shows 116/107 at time of your post. If you are around (or durito), what do you see at Heritage right NOW. I have -116/107 at 4:50 ET.

[TheCentaur]

Hmm, I don't see -118/109 at anytime, SO shows 116/107 at time of your post. If you are around (or durito), what do you see at Heritage right NOW. I have -116/107 at 4:50 ET.

-117/108 4:59 pm

[Scarab]

hello adolf

[LT Profits]

Still -116/+107 at 5:03

[CarpeDime]

Well someone is doing it.

yes it's true that just because ganch doesn't need to do it doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't

[lecubs28]

now seeing Phillies at -109/101 on SBR and SportsOptions, but when I log in I see -112/104

5:44 ET

does anybody see the -109 line when they log in?

edit: also seeing +133 for Brewers on sbr, but when I log in I see +130

[evo34]

Heritage definitely dealing dual lines now in baseball. I was logged in and watching the Boston line constantly from 6:40pm to 6:55pm. It was never higher than +144 for me during this time frame, yet SBR Lines showed it as +145 to +150 the entire time (same deal with other games):


MONEY LINES

TIME

DET

BOS

05/29 06:52 PM	-158	+147
05/29 06:52 PM	-161	+150
05/29 06:50 PM	-158	+147
05/29 06:48 PM	-157	+146
05/29 06:45 PM	-156	+145

[CoachJB]

good book they are just implementing some risk mgmt , they have alot of diff types of customers they cannot give a sharp guy who wants to pick off numbers , the same odds as someone betting for fun getting a fat bonus.

This about sums it up. If you know you're being dealt a bad line ask for the sharp line and if they won't do it then I would leave.

[TheCentaur]

good book they are just implementing some risk mgmt , they have alot of diff types of customers they cannot give a sharp guy who wants to pick off numbers , the same odds as someone betting for fun getting a fat bonus.

They are implementing risk management the same way a movie theater is when they charge $12 for a drink and a bag of popcorn...it isn't right

[Emily_Haines]

Here we have a clear example of a corrupt book cheating the players, yet many can't wait to send them money and play there.

[CarpeDime]

Here we have a clear example of a corrupt book cheating the players, yet many can't wait to send them money and play there.

What is the difference between a book profiling someone as sharp and booting them, as all rec books do, and a book profiling someone as sharp and dealing them a different, "sharp" line set?

I'm not challenging you, just posing the question.

Like when Bet Jamaica was around, they would send sharp players over to The Greek. So how would that be different than just keeping them at BetJam, but dealing them The Greek's lines?

[Emily_Haines]

What is the difference between a book profiling someone as sharp and booting them, as all rec books do, and a book profiling someone as sharp and dealing them a different, "sharp" line set?

I'm not challenging you, just posing the question.

Like when Bet Jamaica was around, they would send sharp players over to The Greek. So how would that be different than just keeping them at BetJam, but dealing them The Greek's lines?

They just end up fuking themselves in the long run. A book is suppose to be willing to take action from a player. This shit book does just about everything to prevent it. Why would anyone in their right mind play here, when you know you are getting fuked on the number?

[CarpeDime]

They just end up fuking themselves in the long run. A book is suppose to be willing to take action from a player. This shit book does just about everything to prevent it. Why would anyone in their right mind play here, when you know you are getting fuked on the number?

but you're not getting "fuked on the number" any differently than you would be at any book that takes sharp action

you just don't have access to the numbers you'd like to hit that you know others do have access to, but how is that different from say, having an account at SIA, playing there for a while, and then getting booted, while knowing others are still allowed to play there and hit their lines?

I'm not defending anyone or anything, just asking what the difference is between a book that gives a sharp player a sharp lineset, and a book that just boots a sharp player altogether

[lecubs28]

it's true that dealing dual lines is no more annoying than just booting the player altogether. but it is a pain in the ass to have to check every time there is a good number up to see if it is actually available or not. so in the end it has the same effect, as the player eventually doesn't bother anymore to play with the book.

thing is, at least when you get booted, most books have the courtesy to let you know. it's underhanded of heritage to not say anything about it and then later customers figure it out themselves when they realise the odds never match up

[ABEHONEST]

If they start doing this I'm done with this industry, sick of this bs. Losing my ass but they need more? Hopefully just some glitch on sbr odds page

My words to the T!
Maybe now Heritage needs to express one more time: Do you or do you not deal two separate lines? My bankroll says "why the hell would they do this to me, especially, and others like the man above?" Is it common greed?

Let's have them come aboard SBR, and clear up this possible "ugly" controversy?
Thank you MonkeyFocker for helping me find this thread above!

[wrongturn]

I know this will never get done, but it would be nice if SBR Odds has a check box for Bodog and Heritage so users can select what to display.

[Russian Rocket]

Centaur - If you suspect dual lines... you're probably right. I was dealing with a book a year ago... perhaps it was BetOnline? Every damn time I placed a wager... when it went to the "confirm" page... the line always reduced if it was a dog... increased if it was a favorite. I was getting pissed off. So chances are... they are f'ing with your account. The only book that I think is totally honest... is 5dimes. They are pretty consistent. Never had any problems with lines.

5Dimes does the same shit on the confirmation page...I've seen this a lot for the tennis matches. Double lines is something that American players should get use to by now.

[rm18]

why don't they just deal everyone the "sharp" line this is weak

[Harmy G]

why don't they just deal everyone the "sharp" line

[Sam Odom]

the ONLY way you get fuuked by taking a bad/juiced line is... well , by YOU TAKING IT

no one is holding a gun to your head