A Fact About Australian Sportsbooks

[jjgold]

Is that what was known as Davidson's?
I used to have an account with them but whenever I went to place a bet, kept finding that the odds weren't what was showing on my odds service. After many moons of not actually managing to place a bet with them and getting abused and labelled an arber when I told them they were weak as piss for offering me only a small fraction of a bet I requested on a big event I told them where to shove it.
Don Best book? wtf?

Yes I think its Davidsons...they are on the Don Best Screen..I am looking at it now
Its strange their on their

[brettels]

yes, they talk big and offer big stakes to losers but for me and several of my punting friends and acquaintances that would probably top out at $30

So you calling me a loser? After 5 years with them if i was a losing bettor i would have quit myself by now! You and your 3 friends who have been limited everywhere have obviously been caught up in something.

[brettels]

why even bother?
you will always be able to do better at Pinnacle and Matchbook

You wont get alot of markets at those books though, each to their own.

[brettels]

I'm most certainly not the only one. Many of my punting mates and acquaintances have been limited to the extent that sports betting is just no longer even worth a try at Sportsbet and IAS since Paddy took over.

And you only need visit a couple of Aussie forums to find heaps of posters saying the same thing.

I do still maintain an account but use it only sparingly for racing specials these days.

Remember that forums are full of shills who rep other books and those numbers wouldn't even represent .01% of there million + members....also remember during our screen shot and email exchanges that i spoke to sportsbet about the limiting and they wanted you to contact them because there is obviously a fault but you said you haven't and you wont because obviously there is something you aren't admitting.

[brettels]

I don't know where you get your data about the 1000 bets but it may be right. I don't think they advertise, relying on word of mouth and some of the best and biggest punters I know use and recommend them. But unless you are into racing and Aussie sports there's probably nothing there to interest you.

Topsport may offer decent odds sometimes but they can take 12 hours to settle a winning bet in your account. Thats something that takes other books 30 seconds after an event finishes. They have a very amateur site they are operating in that way, but still safe although not being an NT licensed book I have some safety concerns. The real test with them will come during this footy season.

[Hareeba!]

So you calling me a loser? After 5 years with them if i was a losing bettor i would have quit myself by now! You and your 3 friends who have been limited everywhere have obviously been caught up in something.

either a loser or you fly under the radar with small bets in big markets

[brettels]

either a loser or you fly under the radar with small bets in big markets

You will be happy with that accusation as an excuse wont you? It never ends.

[jjgold]

Topsport runs their operation out of a dog track I beleive
They seem safe
Only win/place betting I believe as far as horses

IAS/Sportbet???Why would they limit?? They seems like a massive operation

[brettels]

Let me just say hareeba, unlike you i post bets on this site, they are majority winners and at good odds. unlike you , the hound of the sportsbook and industry section constantly arguing with people, because you often shill. thats a good reason why i need say no more.

[jjgold]

Brettles who would he shill for???

[Hareeba!]

Remember that forums are full of shills who rep other books and those numbers wouldn't even represent .01% of there million + members....also remember during our screen shot and email exchanges that i spoke to sportsbet about the limiting and they wanted you to contact them because there is obviously a fault but you said you haven't and you wont because obviously there is something you aren't admitting.

There is absolutely nothing to admit.

I've called them several times when mickey mouse stakes were offered and initially the call taker agreed there had to be an error but when put through to a trader confirmed. One one occasion they did allow me to increase from <$10 to a whopping $50! On another occasion he just simply lied to me about the odds being in the course of being changed. An hour and a half later they remained unchanged!

I've also had exchanges of emails with them where they have confirmed that my account has been limited after risk analysis.

Why can you simply not accept that this is the way Paddy Power and all the other UK bookies operate? There are hundreds of posts on this forum which confirm what I am saying. Nothing to do with having done anything wrong except not taking square odds.

[brettels]

Brettles who would he shill for???

It's mainly betfair but he throws in pinnacle and matchbook to try and offset the obvious.

[Hareeba!]

Topsport runs their operation out of a dog track I beleive
They seem safe
Only win/place betting I believe as far as horses

IAS/Sportbet???Why would they limit?? They seems like a massive operation

I really don't care where they operate out of if I can get the best odds and decent stakes on. And they are always very prompt with payouts and have terrific customer service.

The racing attraction for me is that they are the only bookie which will pay best of the three totes for win on all Australian racing. 99.5% of my racing bets are on that option. And they do literally take bets up to (in fact frequently after) the jump.

IAS/Sportsbet do spend a massive amount on advertising - sickening really as they only want to have losers on board. Why would you be surprised? - they are owned by Paddy and simply adopting the Euro style of "bookmaking".

[brettels]

There is absolutely nothing to admit.

I've called them several times when mickey mouse stakes were offered and initially the call taker agreed there had to be an error but when put through to a trader confirmed. One one occasion they did allow me to increase from <$10 to a whopping $50! On another occasion he just simply lied to me about the odds being in the course of being changed. An hour and a half later they remained unchanged!

I've also had exchanges of emails with them where they have confirmed that my account has been limited after risk analysis.

Why can you simply not accept that this is the way Paddy Power and all the other UK bookies operate? There are hundreds of posts on this forum which confirm what I am saying. Nothing to do with having done anything wrong except not taking square odds.

Thats not what you said in your hissy fit when we talked about it last, you told me you refused to talk to them. I can accept that people have been limited, but I'm very satisfied as even after the paddy take over I still don't get limited, if it happens you will know about it. 5 years strong, btw my first ever betting account was with betfair, i still have a betfair account but other books offer me markets i want to bet on that they don't offer. I have 4 books that i trust and will use forever, sportsbet, TABsportsbet, betfred and betfair. Still testing topsport, they need a wake up call so far in my opinion.

[Hareeba!]

It's mainly betfair but he throws in pinnacle and matchbook to try and offset the obvious.

what an utter fool!

and coming from you who unashamedly touts for that lousy excuse for a "bookmaker", Sportsbet

[Hareeba!]

Thats not what you said in your hissy fit when we talked about it last, you told me you refused to talk to them. I can accept that people have been limited, but I'm very satisfied as even after the paddy take over I still don't get limited, if it happens you will know about it. 5 years strong, btw my first ever betting account was with betfair, i still have a betfair account but other books offer me markets i want to bet on that they don't offer. I have 4 books that i trust and will use forever, sportsbet, TABsportsbet, betfred and betfair. Still testing topsport, they need a wake up call so far in my opinion.

no idea what you are talking about ... all I recall is you welshing on our bet to prove I had been limited

also no idea what you mean about Topsport ... I've never had to wait more than a reasonable time for a bet settlement

[brettels]

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who thinks you shill alot

[Hareeba!]

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who thinks you shill alot

like you said, a good proportion of forum posters are fools

and precisely what does "shill" mean?

never come accross the word before some fools on this forum started calling me one

if it means someone who has no hesitation in posting his honest experiences of a bookie then okay I plead guilty.

[brettels]

no idea what you are talking about ... all I recall is you welshing on our bet to prove I had been limited

also no idea what you mean about Topsport ... I've never had to wait more than a reasonable time for a bet settlement

The quickest they have been for me is 3-4 hours to settle a bet.

[Hareeba!]

The quickest they have been for me is 3-4 hours to settle a bet.

well, using your logic, that means you must have done something wrong because I've never had to wait that long and I reckon I've had hundreds more collects there than you have

however if you are talking about events which conclude overnight you may be correct as I don't think they work 24/7 and I wouldn't be aware of the settlement time if the game finishes at 1am and isn't settled till 9am as I wouldn't even think of going to the site before that time of day

[jjgold]

I do not think anyone needs to shill for Betfair and Pinnacle

They are monsters

[brettels]

Hareeba it was during the australian open DAY MATCHES they took hours and hours to settle the bets.

[Hareeba!]

Hareeba it was during the australian open DAY MATCHES they took hours and hours to settle the bets.

ok, guess they may have been quite busy during that time because that certainly isn't normal in my experience

but frankly surprised that you would have been finding better value there for tennis as compared with Pinnacle and Betfair - I very rarely have found them to be competitive for tennis

[brettels]

you only bet on racing though don't you?

[brettels]

how long does it take for them to settle your bets hareeba?

[brettels]

I do not think anyone needs to shill for Betfair and Pinnacle

They are monsters

With the well publicised problems people have had with betfair on here yes he has needed to.

[Hareeba!]

how long does it take for them to settle your bets hareeba?

Most of my action at Topsport is on racing and I think they are always settled before the next race at that venue but frankly I don't bother much as I maintain a large enough balance to see me through the day anyway.

For sports, which mostly comes down to the footy season I don't know how long they take to settle. Most games these times seem to be at night and I wouldn't log into the account again until the next day so it wouldn't bother me really how long. But I've never noticed any untoward delays.

[Hareeba!]

With the well publicised problems people have had with betfair on here yes he has needed to.

yes, and I make no apology for correcting misinformation and challenging those with no experience of Betfair or comprehension of the issues yet are so quick to condemn - hope they never get to serve on a jury

[brettels]

You are always first to go into defense when a betfair problem is mentioned, not always is it misinformation and not everyone is a scam artist, not just people with betfair but people at other bookies you run straight in and say "scammer" and then tell them to bet at betfair, that is why you are called by so many here a "shill". You are very narrow minded, you can't see both sides if it goes against your wife betfair. At least i can admit with my favourite bookie that limiting has gone on but with you any tiny fault with betfair you call for nuclear bomb at someones house! Get real for once.

[Hareeba!]

You are always first to go into defense when a betfair problem is mentioned, not always is it misinformation and not everyone is a scam artist, not just people with betfair but people at other bookies you run straight in and say "scammer" and then tell them to bet at betfair, that is why you are called by so many here a "shill". You are very narrow minded, you can't see both sides if it goes against your wife betfair. At least i can admit with my favourite bookie that limiting has gone on but with you any tiny fault with betfair you call for nuclear bomb at someones house! Get real for once.

What an absurd rant!

I challenge you to provide an example to back up what you are talking about.

[brettels]

The one you just made not so long ago

yes, and I make no apology for correcting misinformation and challenging those with no experience of Betfair or comprehension of the issues yet are so quick to condemn - hope they never get to serve on a jury

[Hareeba!]

The one you just made not so long ago

what part of that justifies your accusations?

[brettels]

The entire statement. New ones will pop up, i really can't be bothered going through all the threads to prove something to you, cause like other times things are proven you still think its incorrect its like talking to a wall. whats the point?

[Hareeba!]

The entire statement. New ones will pop up, i really can't be bothered going through all the threads to prove something to you, cause like other times things are proven you still think its incorrect its like talking to a wall. whats the point?

You have accused me of defending the undefendable yet when called upon to provide an example you can't/won't.

Just so typical of the cowards on this forum.

Put up or shut up.

[hawley]

JJ how does tab.co.nz rate?