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  • zsr
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    • 06-01-10
    • 4117

    #281
    I'm just curious, what do you get out of trolling? Is it really worth the time and effort to make a new account every month? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? You've approached Brahma status at this point.

    Btw, I had said the evidence points more to him being a bottom 10 guy then a top 5 qb, not that he is bottom 10. He's probably top 15 at this point.
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    • BigTenSports
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      • 11-17-11
      • 783

      #282
      Originally posted by zsr
      I'm just curious, what do you get out of trolling? Is it really worth the time and effort to make a new account every month? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? You've approached Brahma status at this point.

      Btw, I had said the evidence points more to him being a bottom 10 guy then a top 5 qb, not that he is bottom 10. He's probably top 15 at this point.
      I'm not trolling. You are. You offer nothing to this discussion, so quit posting in it.
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      • zsr
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        • 06-01-10
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        #283
        Originally posted by BigTenSports

        I'm not trolling. You are. You offer nothing to this discussion, so quit posting in it.
        Lol. You just said cutler is a top 5 quarterback, clearly your trolling. Lol at quit posting. Clearly something you'll never do in your lifetime Kerry. See ya next week under a different name
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        • BigTenSports
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          • 11-17-11
          • 783

          #284
          Originally posted by zsr
          Lol. You just said cutler is a top 5 quarterback, clearly your trolling. Lol at quit posting. Clearly something you'll never do in your lifetime Kerry. See ya next week under a different name
          He is a top 5 guy. Can make any throw. Needs a real offense around him.
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          • zsr
            SBR MVP
            • 06-01-10
            • 4117

            #285
            I said he has the best arm in the league. No debate there. BUT, your a top 5 or top 10 QB for one of two reason, you put up great numbers, or you win super bowls. Cutler does neither. I can post his stats but you already know there not elite and they are just above average, i can post his super bowls but you already know he hasnt won any. Theres nothing else to discuss.
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            • BigTenSports
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              • 11-17-11
              • 783

              #286
              Originally posted by zsr
              I said he has the best arm in the league. No debate there. BUT, your a top 5 or top 10 QB for one of two reason, you put up great numbers, or you win super bowls. Cutler does neither. I can post his stats but you already know there not elite and they are just above average, i can post his super bowls but you already know he hasnt won any. Theres nothing else to discuss.
              Really ignorant argument. Anyone who reads that post will realize you don't know what you are talking about, so discussion over.
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              • zsr
                SBR MVP
                • 06-01-10
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                #287
                Originally posted by BigTenSports
                Really ignorant argument. Anyone who reads that post will realize you don't know what you are talking about, so discussion over.
                List the top 5 quarterbacks. What do they all have in common?

                1.Brady
                2. Rodgers
                3. Brees
                4. Peyton
                5. Big Ben

                Now tell me, where does cutler fit in there? It may seem like an "ignorant" argument, but when you actually step back and look at who the top 5 and top 10 quarterbacks are, its true.
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                • ThaTopMoron
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                  • 04-30-10
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                  #288
                  definitely not a Romo fan, really do not care for Dallas... and yeah Romo has been inconsistent forever. but he always says he is focusing on improving and getting better in tough situations, clutch situations... and give the man a break.... Dallas hasn't won a SB because they haven't had an TEAM worthy of winning a SB in his time as QB. You need offense, you need defense... you need special teams (at least FG kicking and punting) to win a SB. You can have terrible special teams coverage units... as proven by the Colts in 06. You need the correct coaching as well.

                  but if Romo was top 5 he would be getting his team to the playoffs even with a team around him that isn't capable of a SB win...coming up clutch more often in the season, no starts like last year.

                  but this year he is putting it more together recently, with the help of a run game and such. if the Cowboys win the division, give them a chance... because of how the NFC is looking this year... they would have a shot to get to a SB if guys get back healthy... but they would need to get homefield vs SF (sorry seen it b4, home team with better D and if QB plays to manage game (Smith)... would probably beat Dallas in SF vs a dome team). and they would need to avoid GB... but i think Dallas could manage the Saints or Falcons... home or away.
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                  • KKoz9
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                    • 09-07-06
                    • 1982

                    #289
                    Originally posted by freakydave
                    Please enlighten us all with what Tony Romo has ever done???



                    Originally posted by BigTenSports
                    Cutler > Romo.

                    You can't present anything that disputes it, but continue laughing.

                    I'll be laughing the next time Romo fumbles a snap on a field goal attempt or throws an INT into triple coverage when they are up double digits late in the game for a pick 6. Guy is a loser. Losing is in his blood.


                    In all fairness, I KNOW that stats aren't everything but passer rating is a statistic that was developed in an attempt to evaluate a QB's performance independent of a team's success/winning or lack thereof.

                    Having said that, Romo is in some pretty good company statistically which, along with his winning percentage right at 60% (keeping in mind that I think Dallas had ONE season above .500 in the 8 or so years prior to him taking over for Bledsoe), speaks volumes about his level of play. Not bad for a player with "losing in his blood".


                    As for Cutler, I didn't waste my time looking it up, but I'm quite certain his record is well below .500, and as far as statistics, it was difficult, but I was able to get Cutler on the same page. He may overtake the great Shaun Hill next year if he plays "well".









                    Originally posted by opie1988
                    I think the bottom line is we all know that no matter how good Romo plays, there will always be an abundance of haters.

                    This is just how it is when you're the quarterback for AMERICAS TEAM.

                    Exactly, it's really not about how he plays...haters just don't like him and who he plays for.
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                    • opie1988
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                      • 09-12-10
                      • 23429

                      #290
                      Just heard these stats on Romo on ESPN......

                      Tony Romo on 3rd downs this year:

                      64% completion percentage
                      5 touchdowns
                      ZERO INTERCEPTIONS
                      .

                      Unreal.
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                      • Rod1010
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-01-10
                        • 6208

                        #291
                        Originally posted by opie1988
                        Just heard these stats on Romo on ESPN......

                        Tony Romo on 3rd downs this year:

                        64% completion percentage
                        5 touchdowns
                        ZERO INTERCEPTIONS
                        .

                        Unreal.


                        All Romo needed was a decent RB. He's very dangerous now with Murray taking over.
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                        • zsr
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                          • 06-01-10
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                          #292
                          There's no doubt he's top 10, but top 3 quarterbacks don't choke away games like he has twice this year. Without those he's top 5
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                          • tymoline
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                            • 11-07-11
                            • 257

                            #293
                            Die hard cowboys fan and Romo is not a top 3 QB ill give him top 5 though love our chances this year.
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                            • BostonBrowns
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 10-19-09
                              • 208

                              #294
                              If Opie is going to post something as ridiculous as Tony Romo being an elite top 3 QB then I'm going to post my thoughts on top QB's in the NFL.


                              1. Colt McCoy
                              2. Seneca Wallace
                              3. Thaddeus Lewis
                              4. Josh Cribbs
                              5. Not Tony Romo
                              6. Not Tony Romo
                              7. Not Tony Romo
                              8. Not Tony Romo
                              9. Not Tony Romo
                              10. Not Tony Romo
                              11. Not Tony Romo
                              12. Not Tony Romo
                              13. Maybe Tony Romo
                              14. Maybe Tony Romo
                              15. Maybe Tony Romo
                              16. Maybe Tony Romo
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                              • freakydave
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                                • 02-23-11
                                • 1106

                                #295
                                Originally posted by KKoz9
                                In all fairness, I KNOW that stats aren't everything but passer rating is a statistic that was developed in an attempt to evaluate a QB's performance independent of a team's success/winning or lack thereof. Having said that, Romo is in some pretty good company statistically which, along with his winning percentage right at 60% (keeping in mind that I think Dallas had ONE season above .500 in the 8 or so years prior to him taking over for Bledsoe), speaks volumes about his level of play. Not bad for a player with "losing in his blood". As for Cutler, I didn't waste my time looking it up, but I'm quite certain his record is well below .500, and as far as statistics, it was difficult, but I was able to get Cutler on the same page. He may overtake the great Shaun Hill next year if he plays "well". Exactly, it's really not about how he plays...haters just don't like him and who he plays for.
                                Ok but here are his career PLAYOFF STATS-<TABLE style="WIDTH: 433px" border=1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=433><TBODY><TR><TD style="WIDTH: 71px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>Playoffs</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 27px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>4</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 52px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>1-3</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 28px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>135</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 48px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>80</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 32px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>59.3</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 43px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>832</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 33px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>6.16</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 24px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>4</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 28px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>2</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 48px; HEIGHT: 17px" noWrap>80.8</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
                                That 59.3 completion % & 80.8 passer rating & 25 % winning % is impressive.
                                top 3 in my book[/sarcasm]
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                                • iMxth3xbossx5000
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                                  • 11-11-09
                                  • 4983

                                  #296
                                  You people are fukkin retarded. Cutler a Top QB? Romo a top QB? Go out and get a clue.
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                                  • SportsPedagogy
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                                    • 02-13-11
                                    • 3691

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by iMxth3xbossx5000
                                    You people are fukkin retarded. Cutler a Top QB? Romo a top QB? Go out and get a clue.
                                    Go out and get a clue ? What does that even mean ?
                                    Romo is top 3 in QB rating of all time ! That puts Good things a QB does vs Bad things a QB does.
                                    Those are undeniable stats.
                                    Everything else is a matter of preference and personal opinion.

                                    My personal opinion ... If i could pick a QB for my team .. i would take Rodgers, Brady and a healthy manning over Romo ... thats it. Just my opinion.
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                                    • dlunc3
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                                      • 10-31-09
                                      • 9129

                                      #298
                                      you would take romo over brees? cmon now... that is just a joke.. sure, say romo is anywhere from 5th through 8th, by all means.. but not a chance in hell any nfl team takes him over brees
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                                      • freakydave
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                                        • 02-23-11
                                        • 1106

                                        #299
                                        Originally posted by dlunc3
                                        you would take romo over brees? cmon now... that is just a joke.. sure, say romo is anywhere from 5th through 8th, by all means.. but not a chance in hell any nfl team takes him over brees
                                        Why not? SF took Alex Smith over Rodgers
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                                        • warriorfan707
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                                          • 03-29-08
                                          • 13698

                                          #300
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                                          • warriorfan707
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                                            • 03-29-08
                                            • 13698

                                            #301
                                            all that needs to be said
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                                            • Vitooch
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                                              • 09-26-11
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                                              #302
                                              I don't think we should factor how many Super Bowls rings a quarterback has one into quarterback rankings. By factoring in Super Bowl rings, you are bringing the entire team into the discussion (defense, special teams), when we should be ranking the quarterbacks individually.

                                              Was Trent Dilfer a top QB because he won a Super Bowl ring?
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                                              • warriorfan707
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                                                • 03-29-08
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                                                #303
                                                The whole point behind that is if you win multiple super bowls you are damn solid

                                                Of course there are exceptions and one-hit wonders to things as well, such as Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler, just to name a couple
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                                                • Vitooch
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                                                  • 09-26-11
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                                                  #304
                                                  The OP is just wrong...The top three spots belong to Rodgers, Brady, and Brees. There is really no argument there, and that's not even including Manning. Then I put Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan, and possibly even Schuab in a tier lower than those elite QBs. Then I put, Romo, Rivers, and Eli in their own even lower tier category.
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                                                  • SportsPedagogy
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                                                    • 02-13-11
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                                                    #305
                                                    Schuab and Ryan over Romo ?

                                                    Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but im curious as to what you base that off of ?
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                                                    • Vitooch
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                                                      • 09-26-11
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                                                      #306
                                                      It's very close. Statistically, Romo is there with those two, but I think Ryan and Schaub are a little better in their decision making. Romo has had a knack for turning the ball over at the worst of times. But once again, it is very close.
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                                                      • Kindred
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                                                        • 09-09-08
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                                                        #307
                                                        Opie your such a phuckin homer...your boy has lost the cowgirls more games with his mistakes than he has won them with his play. He's donkey punching Jessica Simpson, maybe when Jerry finally gets rid of that choke artist he can do porn with JS, donkey punches, dirty sanchez golden showers the works. She's a dumb blonde bet she'd do it if he asked. So he has a career ahead of him, just not as an elite super bowl winning QB
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                                                        • opie1988
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                                                          • 09-12-10
                                                          • 23429

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                          The OP is just wrong...The top three spots belong to Rodgers, Brady, and Brees. There is really no argument there, and that's not even including Manning. Then I put Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan, and possibly even Schuab in a tier lower than those elite QBs. Then I put, Romo, Rivers, and Eli in their own even lower tier category.


                                                          This post is laughable in it's absurdity.

                                                          Ryan & Schaub over Romo.

                                                          Good luck, kid.
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                                                          • Vitooch
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                                                            • 09-26-11
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                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by opie1988


                                                            This post is laughable in it's absurdity.

                                                            Ryan & Schaub over Romo.

                                                            Good luck, kid.
                                                            Taking into consideration that fact that you've received pages of posters who think the OP is completely ridiculous, you shouldn't be the one laughing.

                                                            Romo is a solid quarterback, but to claim that he is better than Drew Brees is COMPLETELY absurd.
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                                                            • SportsPedagogy
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                                                              • 02-13-11
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                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by Kindred
                                                              Opie your such a phuckin homer...your boy has lost the cowgirls more games with his mistakes than he has won them with his play. He's donkey punching Jessica Simpson, maybe when Jerry finally gets rid of that choke artist he can do porn with JS, donkey punches, dirty sanchez golden showers the works. She's a dumb blonde bet she'd do it if he asked. So he has a career ahead of him, just not as an elite super bowl winning QB
                                                              Facts and Logic suggest that everything you just said is wrong. Facts and Logic.
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                                                              • opie1988
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                                                                • 09-12-10
                                                                • 23429

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                                Taking into consideration that fact that you've received pages of posters who think the OP is completely ridiculous, you shouldn't be the one laughing.
                                                                Romo is a solid quarterback, but to claim that he is better than Drew Brees is COMPLETELY absurd.
                                                                Really.

                                                                Please also take into consideration the fact that I could give a fukk what any jagoff on here thinks.....and then you'll actually have something!
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                                                                • Vitooch
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                                                                  • 09-26-11
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                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by opie1988
                                                                  Really.

                                                                  Please also take into consideration the fact that I could give a fukk what any jagoff on here thinks.....and then you'll actually have something!
                                                                  Once again, I'm not denying Romo is a very solid NFL quarterback, but to put him in the elite status of NFL QB is completely absurd. He is just not consistent enough and makes too many bad decisions and turnovers that Brees, Big Ben, etc. wouldn't make.
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                                                                  • SportsPedagogy
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                                                                    • 3691

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by Vitooch

                                                                    Once again, I'm not denying Romo is a very solid NFL quarterback, but to put him in the elite status of NFL QB is completely absurd. He is just not consistent enough and makes too many bad decisions and turnovers that Brees, Big Ben, etc. wouldn't make.
                                                                    I feel that your opinion comes from the way he is portrayed in the media. Look at the Jets game. That last pick was portrayed as a horrible throw by Romo, when in all actuality, Dez Bryant never cut back, so it was more of a miscommunication thing as opposed to a stupid Romo decision. Look at how many 4th Q game wining drives he has this season.
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                                                                    • Vitooch
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                                                                      • 09-26-11
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                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                                                                      I feel that your opinion comes from the way he is portrayed in the media. Look at the Jets game. That last pick was portrayed as a horrible throw by Romo, when in all actuality, Dez Bryant never cut back, so it was more of a miscommunication thing as opposed to a stupid Romo decision. Look at how many 4th Q game wining drives he has this season.
                                                                      I actually think Romo is an underrated quarterback. The media and fans alike seem to have it after this guy.

                                                                      But I just can't put him in the elite status of quarterbacks until he cuts back on the mistakes that elite QBs dont seem to make.
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                                                                      • SportsPedagogy
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                                                                        #315
                                                                        Brees threw a game losing pick vs the Rams. I can understand why some dont think he is elite, but i feel differently because i watch him have to put the team on his back each week. Considering how good the 49ers defense is, that last drive vs the 49ers and overtime throw were pretty amazing considering he had broken ribs and a punctured lung.
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