If You Don't Think Tony Romo is a Top 3 NFL QB.......

[freakydave]

Here we go was waiting for these generic fallback jackass criticisms Never won a Super Bowl... and the hands-down #1 idiotic winner of all time... "he's not a leader" and "he's got no heart" angle too funny "he's not a leader" is all you got because it can't be measured!

Well fine -the title of the thread is "if you don't think tony romo is a TOP3 QB..."yada yada yada
1)Rodgers
2)Brady
3)Brees
4)Big Ben
Please feel free to try & demonstrate how Tony Romo belongs on that list & any one of those 4 don't?
Keep in mind I could even add more names ahead of ROMO.This thread was over before it started.

[SportsPedagogy]

He is top 3 in QB rating of all time. '
I guess individual accomplishments mean nothing because he is supposed to put the team on his back and win superbowls ?

The bottom line is ... I dont care what other people think. I am a cowboys fan and i am happy with him as my QB. I dont care what some other person thinks. Most people only watch highlights, or hear about the games from their friends. I watch alot of football. There are alot of QBs in the league who dont get respect for whatever reason. Romo, Campbell, Schuab, Cutler, and Hasselback.
If you want to go based off of Winning Percentage then i guess Otto Graham is the greatest QB of all time huh ?

[freakydave]

Get outta here with Cutler! Cutler has done nothing... ever...! Bad numbers, bad record... Great offensive line? Dallas has started 2 rookies and an 2 undrafted free agents this year! This guy thinks Larry Allen and Erik Williams are still plowing the field for Emmitt! .

Please enlighten us all with what Tony Romo has ever done???

[freakydave]

QB rating well there it is I stand corrected[/sarcasm]
I am not a Dallas fan & I too will always be happy that Romo is a cowboy.
Congrats.

[SportsPedagogy]

Well fine -the title of the thread is "if you don't think tony romo is a TOP3 QB..."yada yada yada
1)Rodgers
2)Brady
3)Brees
4)Big Ben
Please feel free to try & demonstrate how Tony Romo belongs on that list & any one of those 4 don't?
Keep in mind I could even add more names ahead of ROMO.This thread was over before it started.

Playing right now .... Rodgers is obviously best guy in the league, Brady is number 2.... after that, it preference.
Pittsburgh is a very QB friendly team. Good o-line, good running game, that have one of the fastest receivers in the league, they have some very sure handed receivers and a great defense. It has made it very easy for Ben to succeed.

The Saints have a weak defense, but a very potent offense They have a balanced running game and some good receivers. Some Brees fans could argue that Drew makes the receivers good, i dont watch enough saints games to make the decision. Funny though, Drew was considered a bust for awhile, then he won a superbowl, now he is top 4. He would not have won that superbowl if not for his defense making key interceptions late in both the NFC championship ans superbowl. I like Drew though. I think Romo is a better fit for Dallas offense with his escapability.

So I really think that one and two are solid. If peyton manning was playing, then he would be 3rd ....after that, its all about what style and attributes you prefer.

[BigTenSports]

Cutler


Even Romo haters are laughing...

Cutler > Romo.

You can't present anything that disputes it, but continue laughing.

I'll be laughing the next time Romo fumbles a snap on a field goal attempt or throws an INT into triple coverage when they are up double digits late in the game for a pick 6. Guy is a loser. Losing is in his blood.

[zsr]

Cutler > Romo.

You can't present anything that disputes it, but continue laughing.

I'll be laughing the next time Romo fumbles a snap on a field goal attempt or throws an INT into triple coverage when they are up double digits late in the game for a pick 6. Guy is a loser. Losing is in his blood.

Meh. Neither is an elite qb, both guys are above average at best. Cutler has maybe the best arm in the league but has done literally nothing with it in his career

[freakydave]

Playing right now .... Rodgers is obviously best guy in the league, Brady is number 2.... after that, it preference. Pittsburgh is a very QB friendly team. Good o-line, good running game, that have one of the fastest receivers in the league, they have some very sure handed receivers and a great defense. It has made it very easy for Ben to succeed. The Saints have a weak defense, but a very potent offense They have a balanced running game and some good receivers. Some Brees fans could argue that Drew makes the receivers good, i dont watch enough saints games to make the decision. Funny though, Drew was considered a bust for awhile, then he won a superbowl, now he is top 4. He would not have won that superbowl if not for his defense making key interceptions late in both the NFC championship ans superbowl. I like Drew though. I think Romo is a better fit for Dallas offense with his escapability. So I really think that one and two are solid. If peyton manning was playing, then he would be 3rd ....after that, its all about what style and attributes you prefer.

Wow-When it comes to the Packers I am as big a HOMER as you are for Dallas but C'mon man-Let's dicount the SB appearances & the RINGS so we can pretend Romo is as good as those QB's.
Let's just agree to disagree.

[SportsPedagogy]

Please enlighten us all with what Tony Romo has ever done???

Thats a good play, i dont care how much you hate him.

[SportsPedagogy]

Wow-When it comes to the Packers I am as big a HOMER as you are for Dallas but C'mon man-Let's dicount the SB appearances & the RINGS so we can pretend Romo is as good as those QB's.
Let's just agree to disagree.

Big Ben is over rated. He mad a few great throws in the superbowl, but his job is to simply not lose the games.

[freakydave]

Big Ben is over rated. He mad a few great throws in the superbowl, but his job is to simply not lose the games.

Your starting to lose credibility

[BigTenSports]

[SportsPedagogy]

Cutler > Romo.

You can't present anything that disputes it, but continue laughing.

I'll be laughing the next time Romo fumbles a snap on a field goal attempt or throws an INT into triple coverage when they are up double digits late in the game for a pick 6. Guy is a loser. Losing is in his blood.

You really HATE Romo and it has nothing to do with his performance.
He has a pretty high win percentage for his career .... but that is a TEAM Accomplishment. He is only a part of it ...

As for Romo vs Cutler ...
Cutler is completing 58% of his passes .... Romo 64%
Cutler has thrown for 13 Touchdown .... Romo 21
Cutler has thrown 7 INT's ... Romo 9
Cutler has thrown 2319 yards .... Romo has 3026

What does it mean ? IDK ....
I dont look at that and go ... Well Cutler is def better then Romo ...

[SportsPedagogy]

Your starting to lose credibility

I am not saying he is bad ... but he was not the reason his team won all those Superbowls .... Pittsburgh is a defensive team. The defense won those superbowls. they could have had ..... trent dilfer... at QB and still won.

[SportsPedagogy]

I never said he was bad ... infact, i said he was underrated .... I think it is weird your saying that Cutler is lightyears ahead of Romo though.

[opie1988]

Koz and SportsPedaogoy get it.

I think the bottom line is we all know that no matter how good Romo plays, there will always be an abundance of haters.

This is just how it is when you're the quarterback for AMERICAS TEAM.

[BigTenSports]

You really HATE Romo and it has nothing to do with his performance.
He has a pretty high win percentage for his career .... but that is a TEAM Accomplishment. He is only a part of it ...

As for Romo vs Cutler ...
Cutler is completing 58% of his passes .... Romo 64%
Cutler has thrown for 13 Touchdown .... Romo 21
Cutler has thrown 7 INT's ... Romo 9
Cutler has thrown 2319 yards .... Romo has 3026

What does it mean ? IDK ....
I dont look at that and go ... Well Cutler is def better then Romo ...

Those statistics don't prove anything because the Bears run a lot more than the Cowboys do, especially since the Bears play half of their games outside in windy Chicago. Cutler doesn't get to play in a wind free, 72 degree dome for most of his games.

Also, statistics like this are always going to be reliant on the wide receivers the two QBs have. Most of Cutler's INTs are cut off routes or slipped wide receivers.

Cutler has no talent on the WR corps. To prove that, Roy Williams is getting serious time in Chicago and he is a Cowboys' cast off, aka, he wasn't good enough to play for the Cowboys b/c other wide receivers were better.

[BigTenSports]

Honestly, the best way to judge a QB is how that team does when they miss games.

In 2010, the Cowboys were 1-5 with Tony Romo as a starter. Then he got hurt and the Cowboys finished 4-5 with Jon Kitna at QB.

That is VERY damning for Tony Romo, whether you guys want to acknowledge it or not.

Here in 2011, Cutler is 7-3 with the Bears, and they are on a very impressive 5 game winning streak currently with Cutler, going through the hard part of their schedule. If the Bears keep winning without Cutler, it is negative against Cutler, but if the Bears fail to miss the playoffs with the easy schedule left and the ridiculously hard schedule Cutler led the Bears through, it would prove just how good he was.

[SportsPedagogy]

Honestly, the best way to judge a QB is how that team does when they miss games.

In 2010, the Cowboys were 1-5 with Tony Romo as a starter. Then he got hurt and the Cowboys finished 4-5 with Jon Kitna at QB.

That is VERY damning for Tony Romo, whether you guys want to acknowledge it or not.

Here in 2011, Cutler is 7-3 with the Bears, and they are on a very impressive 5 game winning streak currently with Cutler, going through the hard part of their schedule. If the Bears keep winning without Cutler, it is negative against Cutler, but if the Bears fail to miss the playoffs with the easy schedule left and the ridiculously hard schedule Cutler led the Bears through, it would prove just how good he was.

Dallas got blown out in their first two games without Romo ... then Wade Phillips got fired .... Then Jason Garrett took over and Dallas was respectable down the stretch. The got killed by a horrible Arizona and barely beat the Eagles back ups .... Romo was having a great year that year .... alot of close, high scoring losses because the defense couldnt stop anybody.

[zsr]

Big ten, you can't seriously believe cutler is an elite quarterback..

[BigTenSports]

Dallas got blown out in their first two games without Romo ... then Wade Phillips got fired .... Then Jason Garrett took over and Dallas was respectable down the stretch. The got killed by a horrible Arizona and barely beat the Eagles back ups .... Romo was having a great year that year .... alot of close, high scoring losses because the defense couldnt stop anybody.

I personally don't think many QBs would have survived in Chicago the last 3 years. Cutler has been hit more than any QB in the league except for Vick, and that is only because he wants to run it half of the time.

That being said, give Cutler a real offensive line, some talented playmakers at WR, and I think you'd see a very special offense. But until that happens, it is all speculation. He makes the most of the very little talent he has around him offensively.

As a Bears fan, I'm programmed to hate my QB, but Cutler is different. He is very good and getting better.

[BigTenSports]

Big ten, you can't seriously believe cutler is an elite quarterback..

There is no question that Cutler is a top 5 NFL QB.

[SportsPedagogy]

If Dallas didnt have Romo, i would not mind Cutler. I am partial to Romo because i have watched him single handily keep us in games.

it drives me nuts to see people bash him. I watched almost every cowboys game he has played in. In Iraq, i woke up at 3 in the morning to go watch the Cowboys play.

I am critical of Romo when he does bad ... thats why we made this video ...

[zsr]

There is no question that Cutler is a top 5 NFL QB.

I think there's more evidence he's a bottom 10 quarterback then top 5. This confirms you are indeed the Kerry, pris troll. Wow.

[BigTenSports]

Fair enough.

I have watched every Bears snap the last 3 years, and there are several games where Cutler looks like the only competent player on the offense.

His numbers aren't going to show how good he is because they are a running team and wide receivers consistently screw him.

For example, on the play he got hurt, the INT he threw was because Johnny Knox slipped and fell down right as the ball was coming.

Johnny Knox, Devin Hester, and Roy Williams are god awful receivers and they all run shaky routes, so it is tough for Cutler. Earl Bennett is the only WR that knows what he is doing out there, but he has no speed and no height.

[BigTenSports]

I think there's more evidence he's a bottom 10 quarterback then top 5. This confirms you are indeed the Kerry, pris troll. Wow.

A bottom 10 QB? I would recommend you never gamble on football. You clearly know absolutely nothing about it.

[BigTenSports]

LMAO... the Bears have the worst offensive line in football and horrible receivers, yet Jay Cutler is 19-9 the last 2 years, and he is a bottom 10 NFL QB?

Wow... this guy should be banned from the board for that stupidity.

[SportsPedagogy]

Fair enough.

I have watched every Bears snap the last 3 years, and there are several games where Cutler looks like the only competent player on the offense.

His numbers aren't going to show how good he is because they are a running team and wide receivers consistently screw him.

For example, on the play he got hurt, the INT he threw was because Johnny Knox slipped and fell down right as the ball was coming.

Johnny Knox, Devin Hester, and Roy Williams are god awful receivers and they all run shaky routes, so it is tough for Cutler. Earl Bennett is the only WR that knows what he is doing out there, but he has no speed and no height.

Knox is decent .... Bennett is slow .. but he gets open ... im in a 14 team FF league ... he was a God send!

[zsr]

Like you should be banned for 5 accounts to troll an Internet board? Lol top 5 His career stats are not elite and barely above average, and the story with him is it's always the people around him.. It's never his fault. Sooner or later you have to blame the guy with the ball in his hands every single play for fuks sake. Go make another account, this one isn't workin for ya.

[SportsPedagogy]

I was a Big Chad Hutchinson fan when he went to the bears ..... you think the bears offense is bad now ... the were really bad then !!

[BigTenSports]

Knox is decent .... Bennett is slow .. but he gets open ... im in a 14 team FF league ... he was a God send!

Bennett is a key guy to the Bears' offense, and you see what Cutler can do with him since he actually runs routes correctly.

Imagine what kind of numbers Cutler could put up if he had a talented WR who ran routes correctly as well.

Cutler has always complained that he doesn't have a tall, athletic WR to go get a jump ball. If Cutler ever throws a jump ball, it ends up getting intercepted because Knox and Hester are pussies and won't even go up and knock the ball down, they just allow it to get intercepted.

It speaks to how bad the Bears' receivers are that Forte is probably the best pass catcher the Bears have.

[BigTenSports]

Like you should be banned for 5 accounts to troll an Internet board? Lol top 5 His career stats are not elite and barely above average, and the story with him is it's always the people around him.. It's never his fault. Sooner or later you have to blame the guy with the ball in his hands every single play for fuks sake. Go make another account, this one isn't workin for ya.

He had pro bowl numbers in his 2nd year as a starter in Denver because Denver had offensive talent.

You are a brain dead fukking moron, and you are proving it here.

[zsr]

Wow, he had pro bowl numbers one year? Lol, only a moron would take the time to create not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR accounts to troll an online message board.

[BigTenSports]

Wow, he had pro bowl numbers one year? Lol, only a true brain dead moron would take the time to create not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR accounts to troll an online message board.

I didn't do that, but the only one trolling right now is you.

Cutler a bottom 10 NFL QB? Were you born mentally challenged or did you suffer a head injury that caused the mental retardation?

[BigTenSports]

http://www.suntimes.com/mobile/8124969-463/bears-have-given-qb-jay-cutler-little-to-work-with.html