Poker ring games are Pro only. Non Pros can still play tourneys and with poker points

[SBR Lou]

Hi guys,

Effective today, only SBR Pro members are able to buy into SBR Poker ring games with their forum balances. Non Pro members can only access the tables with bonus points won from SBR poker tourneys.

This will help combat fraud and keep the games clean - also, non-Pro members have had a long while to sample what originally started out as an exclusive SBR Pro feature.

[boeing power]

[jarvol]

[VegasInsider]

[no1here]

WOW, Big Change! Great for Security! Very important to tag all non pros now.

[boeing power]

On second thought this might be the death of Sbr poker

not many guys play anyhow


I will miss the non pros donking off their chips

fuk this place has new rules everyday, worse than high school

[downsouth]

Poor almasters

[SBR_John]

Just to be clear; non Pros can still play in all open tournaments. They can win and play in ring games with their SBR poker points. What we are restricting is the ability of non Pros to take their free and clear SBR points and entering the open table ring games.

So non Pros can still enter tournaments and take their tournament winnings(SBR poker points) and play in ring games.

[The Inevitable]

Don't give a hoot. No one hardly plays there to begin with anyway. I never played there, now since I think about it. I only just started playing there when I placed second in one of the tourneys.

[zam77]

Hmm... well hopefully your stats show a good portion of the players are Pros, which I'd guess they are, because it would certainly hurt the ring games if say 40% or more of the players disappeared due to this rule. Is fraud really that big of an issue right now... what's the deal there???

Edit: Geez already a player posting above pretty much saying screw it as he was just starting to sit at the tables... this could be dangerous.

[secretstash]

tables are dead today... appears to be yet another bad change?

-stash

[shari91]

Is fraud really that big of an issue right now... what's the deal there???

Unfortunately it really is. It is absolutely shocking what some people will do to try to scam a few extra points.

[SBR_John]

This rule was necessary to prevent multiple account chip dumping. It will have little effect on ring game volume.

[hhsilver]

If the concern is fraud by non pros, why let them in tourneys? Of course, I'm so naive and innocent, I have no idea of the ways and methods of the fraudulent.

In the early days of pro and poker, wasn't poker to be one of the perks for pros only?.

[milwaukee mike]

so non-pros can still chip dump their tournament winnings but not their daily points.
makes sense i guess, but it would be better if non-pros weren't allowed in tourneys either...

[The Inevitable]

so non-pros can still chip dump their tournament winnings but not their daily points. makes sense i guess, but it would be better if non-pros weren't allowed in tourneys either...

Ironically, I bet it's the Pro's that are committing these scams. When you think about it, a non pro can't do anything with his points, but a pro can. So they have all the more reason to scam for points.

[SBR_John]

Its a bit a harder but not impossible to chip dump poker points. First your ghost(duplicate account) has to win points in a tourney and ghost busting security is better within the poker application, IP masking is more difficult and I'm confident we will catch those who try. It was much easier to sign up a few duplicate accounts and just dump them to yourself in one hand. But now that is not possible.

It is a game of cat and mouse. The mice show us the weakness and we have to respond. Everytime we can reduce fraud it helps us to be able to offer more specials and contests to all of you legitimate players.

[RudyRuetigger]

Ironically, I bet it's the Pro's that are committing these scams. When you think about it, a non pro can't do anything with his points, but a pro can. So they have all the more reason to scam for points.

sbrpros have to go through a verification process. im sure its much more likely a pro creates ghosts accounts, win points on the nonpro acct and lose to the pro account.

i think it shouldnt be hard to filter non pros who play sbr poker, separate it into hands played, winnings/losings and very easily tell which MIGHT be a problem before you even start looking at hand histories.

[Roadtrip635]

So what happens when a non-Pro finishes his rollover? Once the rollover is completed will it kick them out or can they continue sitting at the table until they leave the table?

[SBR_John]

So what happens when a non-Pro finishes his rollover? Once the rollover is completed will it kick them out or can they continue sitting at the table until they leave the table?

Yes

[Carseller4]

Yes

It was an either or question, not a yes or no question.

[Roadtrip635]

It was an either or question, not a yes or no question.

Thanks CS. Yes they get kicked out or yes they can continue playing?

[jarvol]

so non-pros can still chip dump their tournament winnings but not their daily points.
makes sense i guess, but it would be better if non-pros weren't allowed in tourneys either...

It would be best if non-pros weren't allowed in poker, contests, etc either.

[SBR Lou]

Thanks CS. Yes they get kicked out or yes they can continue playing?

They can continue playing while seated. As soon as the Non-Pro leaves the table, the points go back to his forum wallet and he cannot use them to buy into any poker ring games.

[Jimmy Proffett]

[BeerDog99]

LMAO.... Jimmy Go PRO, i'd miss giving you some points at the table!

[aca]

It would be best if non-pros weren't allowed in poker, contests, etc either.

this!

[zsr]

Why would non-pros play anyway? Whats the point if you cant use the points for anything

[Jimmy Proffett]

LMAO.... Jimmy Go PRO, i'd miss giving you some points at the table!

I'll gather up the $200 sometime and turn pro. This is just more incentive.

[Carseller4]

I'll gather up the $200 sometime and turn pro. This is just more incentive.

You easily can get it back. You got enough points there for 2 $100 gift cards.

[AZ*SUN*iBET4FUN]

I use Apple Computers and hate that the Poker application is .exe...

Advice on how to get the Poker working on OSX Lion 10.7

[nosniboR11]

boy the ring games are popping

[manofsteal]

I can squeeze in a tourney once a week or something, but I enjoyed the ring game play. I was one of the non-pros that helped fill the tables and played legitimately. I've actually been hoping there would be a traffic increase in sbr poker because I'd be using it more than any other features.

If it gets better I'll become pro but NLH-only games, no SNG's, 45 person capped tourneys and a decrease in tourneys offered on the weekends, I'm not going to hold my breath.

[Al Masters]

This rule was necessary to prevent multiple account chip dumping. It will have little effect on ring game volume.

I respect the rule, although i don't like it as i enjoyed smoking my late night joints and playing poker with some of the fellas.

John about the rule being necessary if you can explain the angle that non-pros have by chip dumping to each other?(as i can't see it)for this to be effective wouldn't a pro have to be involved to eventually cash out? and wouldn't any fraud perpetrated by a non pro have be the idea of a pro?

What do non pros trying to collude an sbr poker point game have to gain? a thousand Tee shirts.

Poster Vitaly got caught multi accounting from his home, you guys caught him red handed, he was a pro was he not.he had a reason,he could take financial advantage of the site,non pros can't unless they plan on opening a flea market selling SBR tee shirts.

Fraud can only occur when there is something of substance to be gained, 99% of the time its money or something that can be turned into money,there is absolutly no incentive or prize at the end of the rainbow for a non pro to commit fraud here,unless of course you could explain how.

Hers's hoping you will change your mind.

[Al Masters]

Poor almasters