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  • StackinGreen
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    • 10-09-10
    • 12140

    #106
    Handicap the GAME not the number, brother.

    Consider the latter after performing the former.
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    • slacker00
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      • 10-06-05
      • 12262

      #107
      Originally posted by StackinGreen
      Chargers always matched up well vs. Colts (it happened more than once, slacker)

      That has nothing to do with this game.
      Actually, I see the 2011 Packers as a very similar team to the 2007 Colts. Packers pass to set up the run the same way the Colts did in their glory days. The Packers defense is set up to defend a lead and bend but not break the same way the Colts were, knowing their offense could bail them out if needed. There's a lot of similarities.
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      • StackinGreen
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        • 10-09-10
        • 12140

        #108
        Originally posted by slacker00
        Actually, I see the 2011 Packers as a very similar team to the 2007 Colts. Packers pass to set up the run the same way the Colts did in their glory days. The Packers defense is set up to defend a lead and bend but not break the same way the Colts were, knowing their offense could bail them out if needed. There's a lot of similarities.
        ... but you don't complete the thought.

        What are you missing (do I have to tell you)?
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        • Weeton
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          • 10-10-11
          • 102

          #109
          Originally posted by crustyme
          chargers ml.

          its so tempting...
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          • loopydude11
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            • 12-23-09
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            #110
            i put Chargers ML and Colts ML in a parlay, 1/4 unit to win 3.5 units
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            • Big Bear
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              • 11-01-11
              • 43253

              #111
              crazy things happen in the NFL. Gotta love those home dogs
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              • StackinGreen
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                • 10-09-10
                • 12140

                #112
                One of the best QBs of all time playing at his best ... against a turnover machine. End of story.

                Playing San Diego is one thing in this game: stupid. When you play with fire, you get burned.

                I'd be very surprised of all the posts here if I weren't aware of the fact that 90+ % of gamblers are losers.
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                • Stevedore
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                  • 11-10-10
                  • 1218

                  #113
                  Originally posted by lakerboy


                  okay sorry. I got miami confused with Denver and the rams based on the records
                  Originally posted by Ricki Roma
                  Public is on greenbay according to covers.com
                  Means nothing. They were on them all throughout their Super Bowl run last year too. How'd that turn out?
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                  • Stevedore
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                    • 11-10-10
                    • 1218

                    #114
                    Originally posted by k13

                    If Vikings with a Rookie almost beat the Packers...you think Chargers have no chance to win?

                    Any team in the Nfl can beat anyone anytime, ask the Saints.
                    All the analyzing means nothing, does it make sense when jax beats baltimore?
                    You think Packers are going undefeated or something? This is a great spot for a loss.

                    This line will go down anyway but you should have got it when it was a pk'em two weeks ago and put your house on it.

                    btw, I think Redskins have a great chance to upset the Niners. Most here don't.
                    Did I say the Chargers have no chance? Go back and read my post!

                    Christian Ponder almost beat the Packers? Did you even watch the game? Packers were in control the whole way, and the Vikings NEVER had a chance to win that game. The vikings made it a one score game late 4th Quarter after GB was up double digits most of the game and then simply ran the clock out sealing the win. You should actually try watching the games instead of just looking at the final score.
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                    • Stevedore
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                      • 11-10-10
                      • 1218

                      #115
                      Originally posted by StackinGreen
                      I love how the SD backers continue to look [and sound] stupid, but more importantly, that'll they will literally pay for it.

                      Yep, they have no clue! The Packers will come out flat off the bye? Really? I guess McCarthy's 5-0 ATS record off the bye means nothing! BTW, new bye rules don't apply to GB, coach has always given his players the entire week off.

                      Does anybody even watch the games anymore? SD really misses Sproles, they're obviously not healthy; Rivers and Gates don't look right. Ryan Matthews starting RB has a bad groin and may not play, but they're desperate and will just flip the switch against the best team in football who's well rested? GL with that....
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                      • blahwoop
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                        • 10-17-11
                        • 27

                        #116
                        should i listen to stackin green or should i listen to pauly. fug it. im sittin diz out. taking giants +10. SF -3
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                        • zsr
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                          • 06-01-10
                          • 4117

                          #117
                          Lol all the people on the packers are packers fans.. Green bay will win but the chargers plus the points is the play.
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                          • k13
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                            • 07-16-10
                            • 18224

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Stevedore
                            Did I say the Chargers have no chance? Go back and read my post!

                            Christian Ponder almost beat the Packers? Did you even watch the game? Packers were in control the whole way, and the Vikings NEVER had a chance to win that game. The vikings made it a one score game late 4th Quarter after GB was up double digits most of the game and then simply ran the clock out sealing the win. You should actually try watching the games instead of just looking at the final score.
                            How do you have control the WHOLE way when you are losing by 4 at half-time, get out gained in total yards for the whole game and are one play away from losing the WHOLE game?
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                            • zsr
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                              • 06-01-10
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                              #119
                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                              crazy things happen in the NFL. Gotta love those home dogs
                              Yep. Jax and st Louis were supposed to get rolled too.
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                              • Glitch
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                                • 07-08-09
                                • 11795

                                #120
                                Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                I didn't say people shouldn't play GB - I just said that people need to stop using the reasoning that a team off a bye week has some sort of an advantage - so far the numbers this year point the other way
                                how about resting an extra week in such a violent collision-centered contact sport?

                                how about 2 weeks to gameplan against your next opponent. more tape, more practicing execution, more factors introduced and studied, more planning for what plays and personnel to use vs what opponent weaknesses etc etc
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                                • AribaAriba
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                                  • 04-03-09
                                  • 2927

                                  #121
                                  good middling opportunity for those who got it in at -3.5.
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                                  • austintx05
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                                    • 08-24-06
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                                    #122
                                    I found it interesting that belichick commented that one thing he found across the league on the first game after a bye was sloppy tackling. If GB gets sloppier with their tackling, that could be bad news for their bettors seeing how many YAC the packers give up so far this season.
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                                    • StackinGreen
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                                      • 10-09-10
                                      • 12140

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by k13
                                      How do you have control the WHOLE way when you are losing by 4 at half-time, get out gained in total yards for the whole game and are one play away from losing the WHOLE game?
                                      He means Packers were much better, never worried, and didn't rely on unlikely big plays. First play from scrimmage? That right there usually injects the home team, but they never pulled away and first thing you know after halftime a few minutes in? GB is covering.

                                      Then you get an awful roughing Ponder call that leads to the backdoor?

                                      Even Minnesota bettors with more than 10 got lucky that game. I bet it early and well under 10 so it didn't matter to me but if you think taking Minnesota in that game was the right play you're fooling yourself.
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                                      • BigDan
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                                        • 04-28-11
                                        • 5104

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by Glitch
                                        how about resting an extra week in such a violent collision-centered contact sport?

                                        how about 2 weeks to gameplan against your next opponent. more tape, more practicing execution, more factors introduced and studied, more planning for what plays and personnel to use vs what opponent weaknesses etc etc

                                        not the case any longer....way to early to know how the rule changes in the cba concerning byes will effect teams but 1 thing is certain, they are not getting more practice time with that extra week...
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                                        • Stevedore
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                                          • 11-10-10
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                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by k13

                                          How do you have control the WHOLE way when you are losing by 4 at half-time, get out gained in total yards for the whole game and are one play away from losing the WHOLE game?
                                          They were down at the half at Atlanta too, what's your point? Unless you had a Minny bet on the first half, who cares? Who the fuk cares about yards, it's all about the scoreboard, and it never lies! The Packers were up double digits most of the 2nd half, and when it became a one score game late they ran the clock out against a decent run defense on the road. If you want to devalue a divisional win by a road team and somehow spin it like they squeaked by or something, go ahead; rational people who actually watched the game know otherwise.
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                                          • face
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                                            • 01-31-11
                                            • 14740

                                            #126
                                            guys want to be artistic and creative and take the chargers, fine by me. i'll be picking up my cash on green bay all day baby! great spot for green bay, rodgers is gonna confuse the fuk out of the big slow chargers with all his fast recievers.
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                                            • GunShard
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                                              • 03-05-10
                                              • 10033

                                              #127
                                              This is like a potential super bowl match. AFC vs NFC team.

                                              Packers ML or no play for me.
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                                              • StackinGreen
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                                                • 10-09-10
                                                • 12140

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by GunShard
                                                This is like a potential super bowl match. AFC vs NFC team.

                                                Packers ML or no play for me.
                                                Lay the points, tea boy

                                                We won the revolution because of sack like that
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                                                • StackinGreen
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                                                  • 10-09-10
                                                  • 12140

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by face
                                                  guys want to be artistic and creative and take the chargers, fine by me. i'll be picking up my cash on green bay all day baby! great spot for green bay, rodgers is gonna confuse the fuk out of the big slow chargers with all his fast recievers.
                                                  I've wondered in this thread if the Chargers backers have even watched the team ... One of the most undisciplined I've seen all year.

                                                  Rodgers is superman compared to the shot-putting Rivers
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                                                  • GenosPicks
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 08-24-11
                                                    • 971

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Keelo
                                                    Lock the Pack in early you know this line will move. Chargers most overrated team in football almost every year. Chargers with 6 days rest while the Pack coming off a bye.
                                                    I like the Pack -5.. they are coming off their bye and the Chargers resemble Kim Kardashian, they’ve got a huge backfield that features a ton of banged up black dudes.

                                                    Weigh in now best Joke.. worst of my 5 picks?
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                                                    • Stevedore
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                                                      • 11-10-10
                                                      • 1218

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by StackinGreen

                                                      I've wondered in this thread if the Chargers backers have even watched the team ... One of the most undisciplined I've seen all year.

                                                      Rodgers is superman compared to the shot-putting Rivers
                                                      THIS!
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                                                      • rubecube
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 10-24-11
                                                        • 65

                                                        #132
                                                        Chargers are 11-5 overall in November under Turner (8-0 in the last two years), and 7-2 at home in November during that time.
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                                                        • StackinGreen
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                                                          • 10-09-10
                                                          • 12140

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by rubecube
                                                          Chargers are 11-5 overall in November under Turner (8-0 in the last two years), and 7-2 at home in November during that time.
                                                          Gotta love this. The last guy didn't complete the thought experiment, which was along the same lines. Who cares about random historical statistics? He said Packers now are like Colts 2007. Ok, maybe. But his presumption was that Chargers 2007 were anywhere NEAR Chargers 2011!

                                                          Amazing I have to do their thinking for them.

                                                          It's very simple. Who would you rather have? Super Bowl champ undefeated OR undisciplined, erratic Chargers team that is dramatically changed from the past, and on top of that, injured?

                                                          I can't believe I'm even reasoning with these people.

                                                          If you are going to play Chargers, play the Chargers ... Just don't make up reasons why they are a good play here, because there isn't a single one.
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                                                          • CarloTwoGuns
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                                                            • 01-22-09
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                                                            #134
                                                            hmm .. really .. the chargers? lol
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                                                            • zsr
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                                                              • 06-01-10
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                                                              #135
                                                              Packers wont go undefeated, showed major holes against atlanta and even the 2nd worst team in the NFC minnesota. Not sure how your so confident here, remember this is gambling at the end of the day. They'll win but the chance they cover isnt as high as you think here.
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                                                              • k13
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                                                                • 07-16-10
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                                                                #136
                                                                People taking a -240 ML and making it sound like -2400.
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                                                                • slacker00
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                                                                  • 10-06-05
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                                                  Gotta love this. The last guy didn't complete the thought experiment, which was along the same lines. Who cares about random historical statistics? He said Packers now are like Colts 2007. Ok, maybe. But his presumption was that Chargers 2007 were anywhere NEAR Chargers 2011!

                                                                  Amazing I have to do their thinking for them.

                                                                  It's very simple. Who would you rather have? Super Bowl champ undefeated OR undisciplined, erratic Chargers team that is dramatically changed from the past, and on top of that, injured?

                                                                  I can't believe I'm even reasoning with these people.

                                                                  If you are going to play Chargers, play the Chargers ... Just don't make up reasons why they are a good play here, because there isn't a single one.
                                                                  Go back and look at the 2007 Chargers. They were 4-4 going into the Colts game. The 2007 Chargers had given up 30+ points in each of their 4 losses and I'm sure people were digging their grave for them because they were hosting the 7-0 Super Bowl champs that just couldn't lose. Maybe you should do better research?
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                                                                  • StackinGreen
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                                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                                    • 12140

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by slacker00
                                                                    Go back and look at the 2007 Chargers. They were 4-4 going into the Colts game. The 2007 Chargers had given up 30+ points in each of their 4 losses and I'm sure people were digging their grave for them because they were hosting the 7-0 Super Bowl champs that just couldn't lose. Maybe you should do better research?
                                                                    Maybe you should provide better examples. Are you saying that this team is actually a lot better than what we've seen? That's fine, but again, it's a hunch play and there's no good reason to believe that.

                                                                    The other factor here is that you have to give me some history between GB and SD that makes it similar. The matchup for SD/IND was always a good one for SD. I cashed that angle many times as the dog.

                                                                    Here you equate the two, yet there, again is no good reason to do so. And the team is older, changed, and injured. Quit glossing over these points, it's getting tiresome.
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                                                                    • StackinGreen
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                                                                      • 10-09-10
                                                                      • 12140

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by zsr
                                                                      Packers wont go undefeated, showed major holes against atlanta and even the 2nd worst team in the NFC minnesota. Not sure how your so confident here, remember this is gambling at the end of the day. They'll win but the chance they cover isnt as high as you think here.
                                                                      Atlanta got the ball first, scored on first drive, then Grant fumbled and Pack was down. Minnesota got the ball first, scored almost on first play 84 yards, Pack was down.

                                                                      What happened in the second half? ATL scored NO points. Green Bay dominated Minnesota to start and the MIN bettors were very lucky MIN even covered.

                                                                      Major holes? If you say so, bro ...
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                                                                      • gamblingjunkie
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                                                                        • 11-05-11
                                                                        • 2

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Taking Chargers on the ML in a mild upset.
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