Chicago Bears +6 Is A Gift

lakerboy · 10-05-11, 07:02 PM

Pavy rarely loses posted plays.

zsr · 10-05-11, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by mstone897

As to you, my level headed friend. All I'm saying is if you're happy with what Cutler goes out and does every game and you think he lays it all on the line then good. That's all you can ask as a fan. But as someone completely unbiased when it comes to the Bears, I don't see how you could think that. I respect Cutler's talent but I would take many many QB's in this league over him. I also will never understand trading for him. The Bears as long as they have their D, special teams, and a good run game don't need then gun slinger mentality at QB. Also my no means am I saying the Bears suck. Forte is one of my favorite players in the league and I have watched Julius Peppers play since his high school days. I have nothing against the bears.

I am happy with the fact that he gives it his all every come with what he has. I agree that cutler is not the right QB for what the bears have now, but he's locked in so what can you do. You have to realize this orginazation has issues from top to bottom, starting with the front office and martz, to the offensive line, to the recievers, etc. I agree with you that they dont need a gun slinger, i would rather have a colt mccoy type with this offensive line so we can run some short quick routes.

mstone897 · 10-05-11, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by zsr

I am happy with the fact that he gives it his all every come with what he has. I agree that cutler is not the right QB for what the bears have now, but he's locked in so what can you do. You have to realize this orginazation has issues from top to bottom, starting with the front office and martz, to the offensive line, to the recievers, etc. I agree with you that they dont need a gun slinger, i would rather have a colt mccoy type with this offensive line so we can run some short quick routes.

Perfect then. Yeah, how long is his contract there? Colt would actually be a nice fit there. Carimi was a step in the right direction just need to keep tweaking the line.

BTW for this game I probably tease the Bears up to double digits and the over. Hard to bet against Detroit with them playing well and the Bears struggling. It's going to be a good test for the Lions and I'm excited to see Ford FIeld on MNF.

zsr · 10-05-11, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by mstone897

Perfect then. Yeah, how long is his contract there? Colt would actually be a nice fit there. Carimi was a step in the right direction just need to keep tweaking the line. BTW for this game I probably tease the Bears up to double digits and the over. Hard to bet against Detroit with them playing well and the Bears struggling. It's going to be a good test for the Lions and I'm excited to see Ford FIeld on MNF.

They gave him a 5 year, 50 mill. extension. Yea the carimi pick was good, we need to get him back healthy and go from there. Im with ya, detroit hasnt played a big game in years, this one is gonna be fun to watch.

pavyracer · 10-05-11, 07:52 PM

Chicago went to the NL Championship game last year. Detroit went to where they go every year. So 6 points is a lot for them to cover to a team that is about the same strength in terms of personnel but the Bears have more experienced players at the key positions.

lakerboy · 10-05-11, 07:59 PM

Guys dont fade pavy. He just doesn't lose these plays. I'm not being a dick either pavy. I have seen this many times in nfl over the last couple of years. Pavy you got a good number. Is that still available?

priskilla22 · 10-05-11, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Chicago went to the NL Championship game last year. Detroit went to where they go every year. So 6 points is a lot for them to cover to a team that is about the same strength in terms of personnel but the Bears have more experienced players at the key positions.

I was on Bears +2.5 at home against Atlanta, ridiculed for that pick too. Don't worry about it. The Bears will always be underrated.

If the Bears played in New York, they'd be thought of higher.

pavyracer · 10-05-11, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Guys dont fade pavy. He just doesn't lose these plays. I'm not being a dick either pavy. I have seen this many times in nfl over the last couple of years. Pavy you got a good number. Is that still available?

You can get +6 at Bodog juiced, +5.5 at many places.

lakerboy · 10-05-11, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

You can get +6 at Bodog juiced, +5.5 at many places.

is 5.5 safe in your opinion?

bobbyk1133 · 10-05-11, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by priskilla22

I was on Bears +2.5 at home against Atlanta, ridiculed for that pick too. Don't worry about it. The Bears will always be underrated. If the Bears played in New York, they'd be thought of higher.

You were probably on them the last 3 weeks too and how did that turn out?

loopydude11 · 10-05-11, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Chicago went to the NL Championship game last year. Detroit went to where they go every year. So 6 points is a lot for them to cover to a team that is about the same strength in terms of personnel but the Bears have more experienced players at the key positions.

I like the play, and no offense but lol @ "NL Championship"

priskilla22 · 10-05-11, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by bobbyk1133

You were probably on them the last 3 weeks too and how did that turn out?

Nope, At Saints? No thank you the way they blitz the QB, and no, wouldn't take them against Green Bay. I didn't take them against Carolina either... figured they'd win but figured it'd be close so why would I take a -6?

TroyGreen · 10-05-11, 08:30 PM

I like Chicago in this one depending on which Martz shows up. If the throw the ball 50 times Martz shows up then Detroit may kill Cutler and roll Chicago. If Chicago goes to the ground and mixes in play action Chicago should win. Detroit has little to no running game. The o line of the lions played well last week but can they do it back to back? Johnson is going to get his and the other Wr's on the Lions are pretty good but they are one dimensional. Detroit so far has been Johnson or bust. Can Johnson put up 12 points again this week?

The key to the game is that Chicago must throw for a high completion percentage to keep the Lions honest against the run. The Wr's on Chicago need to show up this week with no drops. If both teams play up to potential and Chicago runs the ball I say Chicago wins a close one 21 to 20 with a late FG. Chicago should double Johnson and break his two TD streak.

Chicago +6 looks good.

Muscles · 10-05-11, 08:35 PM

I agree, it does matter what Martz shows up. The +6 is a pretty big stretch and is giving Detroit some really serious credit. I am a Lions fan and will probably stay the heck away from this at all costs. MAYBE take a look at the O/U.

late4thegame · 10-05-11, 08:47 PM

Seriously, MNF in Detroit after how many years? Lions roll here against a weak team. Think this could get ugly. Someone earlier hit it on the head. Lions don't cover if they beat themselves, which is entirely possible.

Cougar Bait · 10-05-11, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by loopydude11

I like the play, and no offense but lol @ "NL Championship"

I am sure he meant NFC

But I have to admit I laughed as well

And the only reason that happened is because the Saints found a way to lose to the Seahawks who the Bears own in postseason play

TehSharp · 10-05-11, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by gryfyn1

more importantly what makes you think Forte would be able to run the ball? simply because he had an aberration game vs Carolina? He managed just 114 yrds on 35 carries in his first 3 games.

This matchup just looks real bad for Chicago, who hasnt been able to protect Culter yet again.

Football outsider had there pass blocking ranked 31 this year ( after ranking 32 last year), add in that Calvin Johnson ranks 4th in DYAR for receivers vs a Chicago secondary than ranks 26th vs #1 recievers.

The Lions can't stop the run. Forte didn't manage any carries in week 2-3 because they were playing from behind. Check his receiving stats.

There is no way this game is won by more than 4-5 points.

ttrace35 · 10-05-11, 09:31 PM

Good luck Chicago guys. I promised myself 2 years ago, that I would never put my hard earned money on Jason Cutler, ever again.

TroyGreen · 10-05-11, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by ttrace35

Good luck Chicago guys. I promised myself 2 years ago, that I would never put my hard earned money on Jason Cutler, ever again.

Lol, But honestly have you seen how Johnson/Stafford are scoring? Its like RC Owens and YA Tittle are back at it again. They are throwing up lob passes. Honestly a good % of people on this board can make the throw to Johnson like Stafford does. Take 5 steps, throw the ball as far as you can, Johnson will go get it. Heck Shaun Hill was throwing TD passes.

Who is the best WR that Cutler has thrown the ball to in his career?

Bob Loblaw · 10-05-11, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by bobbyk1133

DET should be favored by more than TD. CHI is the most overrated team in the NFL.

I don't understand why people always say this. How are they overrated when everybody outside of Bears fans think they suck? Just read every post from non-Bears fans in this thread or any Bears related thread here. Or watch the talking heads on ESPN...Dilfer, Schlereth, etc. Or the lines Vegas throws out there. Already dogging them at home vs Atl and GB this year and even dogging them at home vs GB last year when the Bears were the division winners. Going back a handful of years to the Superbowl year or last year to the the NFC championship game, I don't think you can really argue that the Bears have gotten less respect than any other team in recent years that have won that many games and gone to Championship games. Hard to be overrated when nobody rates you as good in the first place.

I/O · 10-05-11, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by TroyGreen

Lol, But honestly have you seen how Johnson/Stafford are scoring? Its like RC Owens and YA Tittle are back at it again. They are throwing up lob passes. Honestly a good % of people on this board can make the throw to Johnson like Stafford does. Take 5 steps, throw the ball as far as you can, Johnson will go get it. Heck Shaun Hill was throwing TD passes.

Who is the best WR that Cutler has thrown the ball to in his career?

He had a couple in Denver I believe

Goat Milk · 10-05-11, 10:05 PM

Detroit is probably the craziest crowd in the entire NFL. and this is going to be our first monday night game. also, remember what happened to detroit last year when they faced the bears?

The bears offensive line is going to get destroyed by Detroit, who has the best d line in the entire league probably.

good luck, bears may cover but they're rnot winning this game.

edawg · 10-05-11, 10:08 PM

At first glance i liked the bears but the advantage on both O and D lines for lions plus cutler not playing well in night games probably has me passing on this one. Good luck to you Pavy!

Goat Milk · 10-05-11, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Chicago went to the NL Championship game last year. Detroit went to where they go every year. So 6 points is a lot for them to cover to a team that is about the same strength in terms of personnel but the Bears have more experienced players at the key positions.

the lions are better at every single position on the field (overall) except linebacker and possibly cornerback.

the bears have the worst o line in the league.

lions have the best d line in the league.

lions offense is much better at every position.

forte will be limited, and cutler will be crying again when he realizes his o line can't protect him for shit against suh vandenbosh and fairley who should play this week

Goat Milk · 10-05-11, 10:09 PM

cutlers record on night games is atrocious.

his pick-td ratio is off the charts

No coincidences · 10-05-11, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Detroit is probably the craziest crowd in the entire NFL. and this is going to be our first monday night game. also, remember what happened to detroit last year when they faced the bears?

The bears offensive line is going to get destroyed by Detroit, who has the best d line in the entire league probably.

good luck, bears may cover but they're rnot winning this game.

You are truly a glutton for punishment.

Can't wait for your next confident pick.

I/O · 10-05-11, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Detroit is probably the craziest crowd in the entire NFL. and this is going to be our first monday night game. also, remember what happened to detroit last year when they faced the bears?

The bears offensive line is going to get destroyed by Detroit, who has the best d line in the entire league probably.

good luck, bears may cover but they're rnot winning this game.

really steppin out huh

daimoshokage · 10-05-11, 11:32 PM

Pavy sucks at soccer.. Gut went 0-5 last time.. so beware about this fraud..

If you can't pick a winner in soccer, you must really suck at other sports.. soccer is the easiest sport to bet on and pavy went 0-5 the last time he posted his soccer picks..

theplagy · 10-05-11, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by daimoshokage

Pavy sucks at soccer.. Gut went 0-5 last time.. so beware about this fraud..

If you can't pick a winner in soccer, you must really suck at other sports.. soccer is the easiest sport to bet on and pavy went 0-5 the last time he posted his soccer picks..

LOL, you are a tool daimo

d2bets · 10-05-11, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

the lions are better at every single position on the field (overall) except linebacker and possibly cornerback.

the bears have the worst o line in the league.

lions have the best d line in the league.

lions offense is much better at every position.

forte will be limited, and cutler will be crying again when he realizes his o line can't protect him for shit against suh vandenbosh and fairley who should play this week

Kyle Vanden Bosh is better than Julius Peppers?

mcmc · 10-05-11, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by loopydude11

I like the play, and no offense but lol @ "NL Championship"

I am leaning Bears right now also, but
I was kinda laughing at that NL championship too.

Not that it is even in the same league, but a few years ago during football season, at a packed bar, I remember a moron yelling...

..." "cool, SUDDEN OVERDEATH"

his over/ under for NFL games was 1/2, and I;m taking the UNDER

gl boyz

priskilla22 · 10-05-11, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

the lions are better at every single position on the field (overall) except linebacker and possibly cornerback.

the bears have the worst o line in the league.

lions have the best d line in the league.

lions offense is much better at every position.

forte will be limited, and cutler will be crying again when he realizes his o line can't protect him for shit against suh vandenbosh and fairley who should play this week

Are you mentally challenged? I'm not being a jerk, this is a serious question.

Monte · 10-06-11, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Paver I see your being like everyone else now with locks, if your looking for a day of glory I suggest helping your local Red Cross

By the way I do not like the play

There are no fukking gifts in the NFL.

DarkNite · 10-06-11, 12:27 AM

I will take Lions. Bears will probably win the game Week 6 against Vikings.

suicidekings · 10-06-11, 01:20 AM

Taking strength of schedule into account, the Bears have actually been above average this year in defending the pass. Their opponents have still put up a lot of yards, but given the strength of Rodgers and Brees, the Bears did a good job of limiting their success, but gave back that progress by allowing the ball to move on the ground.

The Bears have been weakest in their offensive passing game, being limited beyond what their respective opponents really bring to the table defensively. The Lions greatest strength is their passing game, and have been just average on defense so far.

My number comes out for this game as Lions -8.5. I lean to the Lions covering here.