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  • downsouth
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-13-11
    • 11580

    #71
    [SBRFORUM][/SBRFORUM]
    Originally posted by pavyracer
    No I asked why the Royal Flush winnings were not included and no one gave me an answer but I didn't complain because the people who make the rules are dumb.

    The royal flush winnings are not included because this is being drawn from a poker tournament leaderboard. The Royal FLush winnings were not won in any sort of tournament. They were won in a check down fest where everyone sat around and attempted to draw a royal(I was fortunate to be at table where one was dealt). Everyone at table won. That would be like someone saying I won a bunch of points at the ring game and want them included in the standing as well. Its a tournament leaderboard, like it or not it applies only to tournament style poker.

    This is SBRs first year running poker, poker promos and such so obviously there will be pluses and minuses to most things they do. They will make adjustments for the future, even next year. You gotta give them some slack for year one even if there are some things that you do not like. Everybody cannot walk away happy.
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    • Roadtrip635
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-07-10
      • 6129

      #72
      Originally posted by Glitch
      they can always do ANOTHER tournament
      Exactly.
      Just because they're doing this one doesn't mean they couldn't have a couple more, at least one more at the end of the year. I still would like to see a tourney based on number of cashes in addition to this though.
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      • Dabeergod
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-30-10
        • 5503

        #73
        nice
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        • SBR_John
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-12-05
          • 16471

          #74
          It's a great format. There will always be a one-off situation. Look at Fuzzy, he wins the trip to play in the WSOP by beating a qualifying field of 400. How many points was that feat worth? zippo. Will Fuzzy get a special 1st round bye? no.(doesn't complain either btw)

          The top SBR top 100 Players Championship will be a yearly event and so will the Ryder Cup and the trip to Las Vegas complete with a $10,000 seat at the WSOP. Will they be perfect formats? Hopefully but there will be a Fuzzy or two most likely. One thing is for sure, they will be a lot of fun and very rewarding. Play well my friends(said in my most interesting man in the world voice)
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          • Roxxyfish
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-26-09
            • 12066

            #75
            Originally posted by SBR_John
            It's a great format. There will always be a one-off situation. Look at Fuzzy, he wins the trip to play in the WSOP by beating a qualifying field of 400. How many points was that feat worth? zippo. Will Fuzzy get a special 1st round bye? no.(doesn't complain either btw)

            The top SBR top 100 Players Championship will be a yearly event and so will the Ryder Cup and the trip to Las Vegas complete with a $10,000 seat at the WSOP. Will they be perfect formats? Hopefully but there will be a Fuzzy or two most likely. One thing is for sure, they will be a lot of fun and very rewarding. Play well my friends(said in my most interesting man in the world voice)
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            • Glitch
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-08-09
              • 11795

              #76
              Originally posted by downsouth


              The royal flush winnings are not included because this is being drawn from a poker tournament leaderboard. The Royal FLush winnings were not won in any sort of tournament. They were won in a check down fest where everyone sat around and attempted to draw a royal(I was fortunate to be at table where one was dealt). Everyone at table won. That would be like someone saying I won a bunch of points at the ring game and want them included in the standing as well. Its a tournament leaderboard, like it or not it applies only to tournament style poker.
              Originally posted by downsouth


              This is SBRs first year running poker, poker promos and such so obviously there will be pluses and minuses to most things they do. They will make adjustments for the future, even next year. You gotta give them some slack for year one even if there are some things that you do not like. Everybody cannot walk away happy.


              when the royal flush promotions first started, tournament royals were included.

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              • d2bets
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-10-05
                • 39847

                #77
                Since there's such an issue of whether points or cashes is more important, how about top 20 points vs. top 20 total cashes. If they overlap it goes to points team.
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                • Ra77er
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-20-11
                  • 10969

                  #78
                  I think its an awesome tourney SBR, my only complaint would be the rollover for those not finishing 1st. The championship should be straight point prizes, no R/O in my small opinion.
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                  • McBa1n
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-02-06
                    • 2642

                    #79
                    Great idea, if you wanted to get me into the poker room - you win.
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                    • JACK MATZ
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-12-09
                      • 832

                      #80
                      How about some bracelets! Even if they are just silver or some cheap metal that would be cool.
                      Maybe a few events too. Heads up NL, Omaha, 6 max NL, SitNgo shootout, ect....

                      Have a series and let players buy in...

                      SBR ONLINE POKER WORLD SERIES!!!!!

                      Either way, Thanks
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 62221

                        #81
                        Should not have given anyone a bye then the complaining would be a lot less.

                        Or make top 10 in points won and top 10 most cashes as a qualifyer.
                        .
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                        • Wulfman14
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 8869

                          #82
                          Originally posted by BigDaddy
                          Ok Lou

                          once again you are always right and for some reason never listen to what some are saying

                          but you are correct we had no shot at the top 10.

                          case closed

                          for god sakes close yur mouth bigdaddy. what does that mean that if i had known i would have played the tourneys more seriously . what so if you played 100 percent you would have won most of em ? why the fuk would you not play 100 percent you are still playing for points . as for the ryder cup counting you should not bitch about that either cuz you are +2500 pts ahead because of what you won in february. if ryder cup shouldn't count then that should not either.
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                          • Wulfman14
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 8869

                            #83
                            Originally posted by SBR Lou
                            The top 100-200-500-152158487 are all based on one thing - SBR Poker Tournaments.

                            You can argue that you would've turned into Phil Ivey had you known one day your finishes would've mattered, but at the end of the day, you play to win. I don't think any of the squeaky wheels had a shot at the top 10, anyway.

                            good one
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                            • Wulfman14
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 8869

                              #84
                              Originally posted by BigDaddy
                              correct

                              it was not announced early on.

                              i know i won a early event that qualified me for what i was trying to get into and messed around after that until i found out it meant something going forward.
                              ROFL
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82666

                                #85
                                Originally posted by SBR_John
                                It's a great format. There will always be a one-off situation. Look at Fuzzy, he wins the trip to play in the WSOP by beating a qualifying field of 400. How many points was that feat worth? zippo. Will Fuzzy get a special 1st round bye? no.(doesn't complain either btw)

                                The top SBR top 100 Players Championship will be a yearly event and so will the Ryder Cup and the trip to Las Vegas complete with a $10,000 seat at the WSOP. Will they be perfect formats? Hopefully but there will be a Fuzzy or two most likely. One thing is for sure, they will be a lot of fun and very rewarding. Play well my friends(said in my most interesting man in the world voice)
                                Sure he beat a qualifying field of 400. Do you realize since that promotion went for 3 months prior to the final event and every single person who played qualified since winning a tourney wasn't required to play at final event? So he basically won the equivalent of a regular Saturday afternoon tourney where everyone can play. You have a way of sugarcoating things I have never seen anyone doing before.
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                                • MexicanStallion
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-08-08
                                  • 20429

                                  #86
                                  This contest doesn't involve me
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                                  • HeeeHAWWWW
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-13-08
                                    • 5487

                                    #87
                                    Darn, wish I'd been treating daily poker more seriously, usually just try risky double ups early rather than waste an hour playing and blinding out in 15th. About 2k off top20, hrrrrm.
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                                    • ArunSh
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-24-07
                                      • 6817

                                      #88
                                      Sounds great to me, thanks SBR!
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                                      • ProfaneReality
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 04-14-09
                                        • 7607

                                        #89
                                        Granted I am biased, due to some large winnings early on, but does the poker circuit or whatever its called exclude winnings from the wsop main event when calculating a players money won for the year? Does the PGA exclude tournaments like The Masters and The US Open which have larger purses than the other tournaments from their calculations of the "money list" ?

                                        Qualifying for the Poker Championship earlier this year was a tough feat, having to beat out a field of 45, just to earn an entry. That shouldn't be marginalized.
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                                        • sinmiedo
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-10-10
                                          • 2698

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by JACK MATZ
                                          How about some bracelets! Even if they are just silver or some cheap metal that would be cool.
                                          Maybe a few events too. Heads up NL, Omaha, 6 max NL, SitNgo shootout, ect....

                                          Have a series and let players buy in...

                                          SBR ONLINE POKER WORLD SERIES!!!!!

                                          Either way, Thanks
                                          i like the idea
                                          at least i won one of theose torunaments in feb.
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                                          • sinmiedo
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-10-10
                                            • 2698

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by ProfaneReality
                                            Granted I am biased, due to some large winnings early on, but does the poker circuit or whatever its called exclude winnings from the wsop main event when calculating a players money won for the year? Does the PGA exclude tournaments like The Masters and The US Open which have larger purses than the other tournaments from their calculations of the "money list" ?

                                            Qualifying for the Poker Championship earlier this year was a tough feat, having to beat out a field of 45, just to earn an entry. That shouldn't be marginalized.
                                            YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                            you hit the nail
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                                            • d2bets
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 39847

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by sinmiedo
                                              YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                              you hit the nail
                                              Wow, I just can't believe you'd agree with that. Go figure.
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                                              • SBR Lou
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-02-07
                                                • 37863

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by ProfaneReality
                                                Granted I am biased, due to some large winnings early on, but does the poker circuit or whatever its called exclude winnings from the wsop main event when calculating a players money won for the year? Does the PGA exclude tournaments like The Masters and The US Open which have larger purses than the other tournaments from their calculations of the "money list" ?
                                                Excellent point.
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                                                • ArunSh
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-24-07
                                                  • 6817

                                                  #94
                                                  Even though this system works out well for me, I honestly do not really agree with it in principle. Giving preference to those at the top is rewarding those who did well in a very select group of tournaments (namely the February ones). Given we have had like 6 months of tournaments, I would favor something that judges how people have done over a long period without any preference to any specific month.

                                                  As for the Masters' argument etc. and all that - well I look at this way. If you look at the WSOP all time highest $ earners, Jamie Gold is certainly amongst them simply due to his performance in a single event. Is he, however, one of the best poker players out there in anyone's (including his own) estimation? If the goal of this system is to award the "best" players out there, I think that example clearly demonstrates that it doesn't necessarily do that.

                                                  Again, this isn't meant as a complaint or anything - obviously this system works in my favor so I like it in that regard! But I can see why others who may have been very good performers overall, just happening not to do well in February, could be frustrated by it.
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                                                  • SBR Lou
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-02-07
                                                    • 37863

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by ArunSh
                                                    Again, this isn't meant as a complaint or anything - obviously this system works in my favor so I like it in that regard! But I can see why others who may have been very good performers overall, just happening not to do well in February, could be frustrated by it.
                                                    The feedback is certainly welcomed and encouraged.

                                                    We'll also have a tournament for the players with a minimum # of cashes required prior to year's end. Then next year we'll continue to track how well players do both in terms of points generated and frequency of cashes. That way, it's the best of both worlds.
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                                                    • aceking
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-07-05
                                                      • 4782

                                                      #96
                                                      why can't the top 40 qualify automatically for the final?

                                                      so Number 21 is screwed ?
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                                                      • aceking
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-07-05
                                                        • 4782

                                                        #97
                                                        anyway the timing is wayyyyy off for me , don't think i'd be playing .
                                                        4am Nov 5 , 5am Nov 12 .

                                                        guessed i wouldn't be rolling over 3X of 10,000 points lol .
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                                                        • horja1
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-13-11
                                                          • 5646

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by aceking
                                                          anyway the timing is wayyyyy off for me , don't think i'd be playing .
                                                          4am Nov 5 , 6am Nov 12 .

                                                          guessed i wouldn't be rolling over 3X of 10,000 points lol .
                                                          no rollover for first place
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82666

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by ProfaneReality
                                                            Granted I am biased, due to some large winnings early on, but does the poker circuit or whatever its called exclude winnings from the wsop main event when calculating a players money won for the year? Does the PGA exclude tournaments like The Masters and The US Open which have larger purses than the other tournaments from their calculations of the "money list" ?

                                                            Qualifying for the Poker Championship earlier this year was a tough feat, having to beat out a field of 45, just to earn an entry. That shouldn't be marginalized.
                                                            The problem with your PGA analogy and this is why it doesn't apply to SBR Poker is that SBR Poker only had one tourney where the purses where so high (lets call it The Masters). Where was the US Open, The British Open and The PGA championship with their equal high purses? Nowhere.

                                                            So you are paying all the golfers who finished good in The Masters high purses but the ones who finished good in all the other tourneys get John Deer Classic purses. If SBR poker had 3 more purses equivalent to the February tourney it would have been fine but since it didn't the current system is flawed.
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                                                            • playersonly69
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-04-08
                                                              • 12827

                                                              #100
                                                              Make sure and start the points leaderboard over though on Jan 1st.


                                                              I would think that all players would have to be SBRPROS as well. I mean if they are not depositing cash into your sponsors, then why should you give them points? Most of us are depositing money every month into your sponsors
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                                                              • playersonly69
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-04-08
                                                                • 12827

                                                                #101
                                                                How about offer byes to everyone who has deposited at least $500 per month into your sponsors? NOW THAT WILL INCREASE THE POSTUPS AT BOOKS!! I already deposit that much if not more per month. Well some months I do cash out a few thousand, so those months wouldnt have a deposit
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                                                                • gryfyn1
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-30-10
                                                                  • 3285

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by ProfaneReality
                                                                  Granted I am biased, due to some large winnings early on, but does the poker circuit or whatever its called exclude winnings from the wsop main event when calculating a players money won for the year? Does the PGA exclude tournaments like The Masters and The US Open which have larger purses than the other tournaments from their calculations of the "money list" ?

                                                                  Qualifying for the Poker Championship earlier this year was a tough feat, having to beat out a field of 45, just to earn an entry. That shouldn't be marginalized.
                                                                  not really, sure the big tourneys may pay more, but not but such a margin.

                                                                  Maybe some tourney only pay 70% or 80% of the winnings of the big ones, but not the 6%-10% with the poker tourneys ran.
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                                                                  • chemicalbrother
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 01-26-11
                                                                    • 4086

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by playersonly69
                                                                    How about offer byes to everyone who has deposited at least $500 per month into your sponsors? NOW THAT WILL INCREASE THE POSTUPS AT BOOKS!! I already deposit that much if not more per month. Well some months I do cash out a few thousand, so those months wouldnt have a deposit
                                                                    how about instead you try not losing so much.
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                                                                    • Glitch
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-08-09
                                                                      • 11795

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                      The problem with your PGA analogy and this is why it doesn't apply to SBR Poker is that SBR Poker only had one tourney where the purses where so high (lets call it The Masters). Where was the US Open, The British Open and The PGA championship with their equal high purses? Nowhere.

                                                                      So you are paying all the golfers who finished good in The Masters high purses but the ones who finished good in all the other tourneys get John Deer Classic purses. If SBR poker had 3 more purses equivalent to the February tourney it would have been fine but since it didn't the current system is flawed.
                                                                      ACTUALLY. whoever wins this weeks tournament, the tour championship in atlanta essentially wins the Fed ex overall leader standings and gets the inflated 7500000 dollars prize for winning AND the 10,000,000$ prize for taking the fedex cup because this tournament at east lake is worth so many points.

                                                                      what a pertinent coincidence.
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                                                                      • roundcake
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 09-02-07
                                                                        • 93

                                                                        #105
                                                                        interesting
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