lets see if i get this correct. why would ortiz throw a fight. well, hello out there, hello. knowing he didnt have a chance, why would you taking a beating for 15 rounds when you can end it in 4 with the same amount of money. hello out there are you hearing us. some of you make me laugh. just keep paying $70 for this garbage. by the way Ortiz and floyd thank you for your contribution for the fight. come back again
The Fight was 100% Rigged...
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INVEGA MANSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-30-08
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#106Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#107I think your tinfoil hat is on a bit too tight.
Has there been fixed fights in Boxing? Yes.
Was this one? No. It was not fixed. If it was they wouldn't have fixed it this way.
Boxing isn't going anywhere. I don't get why UFC fans are so threatened by Boxing and want it to die. They are two different sports. They can both go on.
If you think there has never been an ugly UFC fight or a controversial decision you haven't watched it for long.
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RGGSBR MVP
- 09-11-11
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#108Boxing at its finest.Comment -
FlexinSBR Wise Guy
- 10-09-10
- 969
#109People keep saying that Ortiz doesn't deserve to be in the ring. He is not on the same level as Mayweather at all but he has a belt. He was a champion. Thats why he is in there. He won the lotto with a win over Berto and a Mayweather-Pacman fight not being made. Right place, right time. As good as Manny is I don't think he beats Mayweather.
The top guys in there prime always have it tough. They are so good that that they make others look like shit. Roy Jones Jr, Manny, Mayweather just to name a few. When your that good its hard to find a real good match up because there are few on that level. Thats life.
Its the same with Silva.
One problem with Boxing is the amount of belts and the fact that its so hard to get promoters to put their belt holder up against another one.
MMA does not have it right. UFC is one promoter only allowing his fighters to fight their own fighters.
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FlexinSBR Wise Guy
- 10-09-10
- 969
#110lets see if i get this correct. why would ortiz throw a fight. well, hello out there, hello. knowing he didnt have a chance, why would you taking a beating for 15 rounds when you can end it in 4 with the same amount of money. hello out there are you hearing us. some of you make me laugh. just keep paying $70 for this garbage. by the way Ortiz and floyd thank you for your contribution for the fight. come back again
If Ortiz wins he can get a fight with Manny for a bigger payday. He isn't going to require a drug test from Manny and he isn't Mayweather so the fight would be one they would take much easier Then if Ortiz wins that one he would be THE MAN in boxing and could make more money in one night then a whole family could make in a lifetime. And his name would be locked in with some of the big names in boxing history. There are many reasons why he would not throw that fight.
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FlexinSBR Wise Guy
- 10-09-10
- 969
#114BTW the other videos posted here suck and make it look bad for Floyd. Just found this one. Cortez clearly said lets go. Watch and learn.
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ChairibSBR Wise Guy
- 03-08-10
- 917
#115Rigged to accomplish what exactly? The absolute stupidity of this place never ceases to amaze me.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
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#116Well he's listed as a fighter on their site so yes, but then UFC (ZUFFA) own Strikeforce as well so technically he has been signed to UFC since the takeover. And regardless of whether he is signed to them or not, the point is that UFC do go out of their way to give fans the fights they want, and made Lesnar vs Overeem - which is the opposite of what you said.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#117All tht shows is tht Ortiz is full of shit! Trying to make out it wasnt a deliberate head-butt...get the **** out of here son! Then he's grinning and smiling after the whole thing, makes no sense! Saying "It Happens"!!!! When does it happen! How often have u seen tht kinda shit go down!?Comment -
FlexinSBR Wise Guy
- 10-09-10
- 969
#118Well he's listed as a fighter on their site so yes, but then UFC (ZUFFA) own Strikeforce as well so technically he has been signed to UFC since the takeover. And regardless of whether he is signed to them or not, the point is that UFC do go out of their way to give fans the fights they want, and made Lesnar vs Overeem - which is the opposite of what you said.
Don King use to pull shit like that. He would only sign for you to fight his champ if you allowed him to have a cut of your next X number of fights. Good business move but a prick move as well I think.
UFC format can make it WAY easier to make certain fights happen (they don't have much of a choice on if they sign that fight or not. Seems to be what White says goes.) but it doesn't allow other fighters to come in and fight unless they can get picked up by the UFC. So it can be good or bad.
Nobody is perfect and there isn't a perfect sport.
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FlexinSBR Wise Guy
- 10-09-10
- 969
#119All tht shows is tht Ortiz is full of shit! Trying to make out it wasnt a deliberate head-butt...get the **** out of here son! Then he's grinning and smiling after the whole thing, makes no sense! Saying "It Happens"!!!! When does it happen! How often have u seen tht kinda shit go down!?
I don't look into the smiling too much. Some people smile if they are happy, in trouble or what ever. And there isn't much else he can do. Can't cry about it have those two head butts causing you to take a nap.
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QuantumLeapSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-22-08
- 6880
#120Why do you guys even deal with this horseshit? It's been fixed for decades.
I've watched 1 fight since 1980.Comment -
shari91BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-23-10
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#121Thanks for the video James. Sucks that I happened to miss this part of the match live but that made up for it. FWIW, those commentators suck. They never once mentioned the ref saying "let's go" when they were yapping about how unclassy Floyd was. And the ref clearly said it, regardless of who he chose to look at afterwards.Comment -
FlexinSBR Wise Guy
- 10-09-10
- 969
#122
Thanks for the video James. Sucks that I happened to miss this part of the match live but that made up for it. FWIW, those commentators suck. They never once mentioned the ref saying "let's go" when they were yapping about how unclassy Floyd was. And the ref clearly said it, regardless of who he chose to look at afterwards.
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8ArIvd5SBR MVP
- 04-24-10
- 3175
#123Thanks for the video James. Sucks that I happened to miss this part of the match live but that made up for it. FWIW, those commentators suck. They never once mentioned the ref saying "let's go" when they were yapping about how unclassy Floyd was. And the ref clearly said it, regardless of who he chose to look at afterwards.
i understand protect yourself at all times, and the ruling was a ko, but that was bad sportsmanship. hard to argue it wasn't.Comment -
FlexinSBR Wise Guy
- 10-09-10
- 969
#124i think peoples beef with mayweather is he swung twice at ortiz when his hands were down. one of which ortiz was looking at the ref. it's obvious ortiz was confused about whether or not they were supposed to be boxing, and mayweather took advantage of the situation in a classless way. i understand protect yourself at all times, and the ruling was a ko, but that was bad sportsmanship. hard to argue it wasn't.
Hitting him on the way in would have definitely been sportsmen like but this wasn't. Might be border line but... I wish it didn't end that way but things happen.
As far as having his hands down. That is own fault. Cortez said lets go. That means the fight is back on. He should have been ready. Maybe he didn't hear him say it. Its hard to say but they tell you protect yourself at all times. If he had his hands up it would have been fine. If it was an illegal punch and he had his hands up the point he loss could have been evened up with a loss of a point for Floyd.
He also already apologized.
Let Mayweather and Manny fight. Let Berto and Ortiz rematch then have the two winners fight.
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8ArIvd5SBR MVP
- 04-24-10
- 3175
#125He said lets go. The fight was back on. Mayweather didn't hit him right away. How long do you want him to wait? I don't like that it happened in that spot but it wasn't as bad as some are saying. The fight was on. I see that video is now down but if you watch it you can see Mayweather puts his hands up to protect him self and looks like he expects a shot to be coming his way. When it didn't come he threw a two punch combo.
Hitting him on the way in would have definitely been sportsmen like but this wasn't. Might be border line but... I wish it didn't end that way but things happen.
As far as having his hands down. That is own fault. Cortez said lets go. That means the fight is back on. He should have been ready. Maybe he didn't hear him say it. Its hard to say but they tell you protect yourself at all times. If he had his hands up it would have been fine. If it was an illegal punch and he had his hands up the point he loss could have been evened up with a loss of a point for Floyd.
He also already apologized.
Let Mayweather and Manny fight. Let Berto and Ortiz rematch then have the two winners fight.
James
i'm not arguing whether or not it was legal, i'm saying it was bad sportsmanship.Comment -
AribaAribaSBR MVP
- 04-03-09
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#126man! i love both ufc and boxing, both can offer fights. STOP this bs boxing vs mma.Comment -
FlexinSBR Wise Guy
- 10-09-10
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#127
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King MayanSBR Posting Legend
- 09-22-10
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#128For someone that boxes or has a boxing avatar, you should know that the ref never locked them in and separated them, all he said was " let's go" and starting talking to the judges. It was a cheap shot and mayweather knew it, that's why you see gay looking at the ref from the corner of his eye has hes punching Ortiz.Comment -
FlexinSBR Wise Guy
- 10-09-10
- 969
#129For someone that boxes or has a boxing avatar, you should know that the ref never locked them in and separated them, all he said was " let's go" and starting talking to the judges. It was a cheap shot and mayweather knew it, that's why you see gay looking at the ref from the corner of his eye has hes punching Ortiz.
He said lets go. Cortez could have done a better job controlling the fighters. We are not all going to agree on this. I feel it was border line. In the end it was a legal punch which is what matters the most.
Now its time to see if Manny can win his next fight and make Mayweather-Pac happen.
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OMGRandyJacksonSBR MVP
- 02-07-10
- 1680
#130Anyone have a link or download to the full fight?Comment -
raydogSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-07-07
- 6984
#131fixed? hahah, idiots...bad luck for ortiz? maybe...fixed? not a fukking chance...no reason to fix anything...thats as pissed as ive ever seen floyd...and he gets really pissed at his dad...nothing fixed about the fight...dumbass should have been ready to fight...he definitely deserved a cheap shot or two for the whoreshit headbutt and i would levy a fine on his ass if i were the commissioner ...that kind of shit is horrible for the sport...
still, the entire ppv was better than most ufc ppv's ive seen in a long ass time...nothing wrong with paying for a boxing ppv once a year or so...the rest of the big fights are on showtime and hbo...the real sheep are the morons that pay for the sorry ass ufc ppv's every damn month...
love to see people hate on mayweather when all he does is win.Comment -
OMGRandyJacksonSBR MVP
- 02-07-10
- 1680
#132lol are you a ******* retard? levy a fine on his ass? haha every boxer would be broke if you were gonna fine for head butts...For every 1 KO theres like 9million head butts. Dirty but part of the game.Comment -
AribaAribaSBR MVP
- 04-03-09
- 2922
#133[quote=OMGRandyJackson;11492451]lol are you a ******* retard? levy a fine on his ass? haha every boxer would be broke if you were gonna fine for head butts...For every 1 KO theres like 9million head butts. Dirty but part of the game.[/quoteI believe a warning should be a reasonable for the headbutt since it didnt cause that much a damage but again this is boxing=politics.Comment -
PabinatorSBR MVP
- 10-04-09
- 1238
#134Hey King see the problems youve started. Tell me this, is boxing going to give us what we all want, Pacroid vs Mayweather?Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!Comment -
iifoldSBR Posting Legend
- 04-25-10
- 11111
#135
If this was going to happen, it would have happened already...
Only chance is if Floyd somehow loses most of his money and has to accept a beating from a roided out Pacquaio to make some money...Comment -
INVEGA MANSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-30-08
- 6803
#136He wants a rematch. get your $70 readyComment -
raydogSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-07-07
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#137blatant low blows and blantant headbutts like ortiz are fined all the time... obviously, accidentals arent...again, people talking just to hear themselves talk ...Comment -
raydogSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-07-07
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#138Comment -
AribaAribaSBR MVP
- 04-03-09
- 2922
#139Miss Jackson(floyd's bitch) twitted his winning on the 4th round, Lucky Guess?http://lockerz.com/s/139929115Comment -
spankieSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-10-11
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#140boring fight like always. boxing sucks huge rods.Comment
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