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  • INVEGA MAN
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-30-08
    • 6803

    #106
    lets see if i get this correct. why would ortiz throw a fight. well, hello out there, hello. knowing he didnt have a chance, why would you taking a beating for 15 rounds when you can end it in 4 with the same amount of money. hello out there are you hearing us. some of you make me laugh. just keep paying $70 for this garbage. by the way Ortiz and floyd thank you for your contribution for the fight. come back again
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    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #107
      Originally posted by Flexin
      I think your tinfoil hat is on a bit too tight.

      Has there been fixed fights in Boxing? Yes.

      Was this one? No. It was not fixed. If it was they wouldn't have fixed it this way.

      Boxing isn't going anywhere. I don't get why UFC fans are so threatened by Boxing and want it to die. They are two different sports. They can both go on.

      If you think there has never been an ugly UFC fight or a controversial decision you haven't watched it for long.

      James
      Please dont refer to this IIfold dude as a UFC fan!
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      • RGG
        SBR MVP
        • 09-11-11
        • 1045

        #108
        Boxing at its finest.
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        • Flexin
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-09-10
          • 969

          #109
          People keep saying that Ortiz doesn't deserve to be in the ring. He is not on the same level as Mayweather at all but he has a belt. He was a champion. Thats why he is in there. He won the lotto with a win over Berto and a Mayweather-Pacman fight not being made. Right place, right time. As good as Manny is I don't think he beats Mayweather.

          The top guys in there prime always have it tough. They are so good that that they make others look like shit. Roy Jones Jr, Manny, Mayweather just to name a few. When your that good its hard to find a real good match up because there are few on that level. Thats life.

          Its the same with Silva.

          One problem with Boxing is the amount of belts and the fact that its so hard to get promoters to put their belt holder up against another one.

          MMA does not have it right. UFC is one promoter only allowing his fighters to fight their own fighters.

          James
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          • Flexin
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-09-10
            • 969

            #110
            Originally posted by INVEGA MAN
            lets see if i get this correct. why would ortiz throw a fight. well, hello out there, hello. knowing he didnt have a chance, why would you taking a beating for 15 rounds when you can end it in 4 with the same amount of money. hello out there are you hearing us. some of you make me laugh. just keep paying $70 for this garbage. by the way Ortiz and floyd thank you for your contribution for the fight. come back again
            Originally posted by Vaughany
            Please dont refer to this IIfold dude as a UFC fan!
            They say Mayweather will make up around 40 million for that fight, Ortiz will make 2.5 million. That is why you don't fall in 4. Mayweather was winning and going to win in my opinion but it wasn't like he was taken a huge beating. It was on its way but the Berto fight was a rougher fight. This wasn't a point where you say **** this I'm going home early.

            If Ortiz wins he can get a fight with Manny for a bigger payday. He isn't going to require a drug test from Manny and he isn't Mayweather so the fight would be one they would take much easier Then if Ortiz wins that one he would be THE MAN in boxing and could make more money in one night then a whole family could make in a lifetime. And his name would be locked in with some of the big names in boxing history. There are many reasons why he would not throw that fight.

            James
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            • Flexin
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-09-10
              • 969

              #111
              Originally posted by Vaughany
              Please dont refer to this IIfold dude as a UFC fan!

              The UFC fan part it talking to all UFC fans.

              James
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #112
                Originally posted by Flexin

                MMA does not have it right. UFC is one promoter only allowing his fighters to fight their own fighters.

                James
                You have heard tht Overeem is fighting Lesnar havnt you!?
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                • Flexin
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-09-10
                  • 969

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                  You have heard tht Overeem is fighting Lesnar havnt you!?
                  No. But is he signed to UFC?

                  James
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                  • Flexin
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-09-10
                    • 969

                    #114
                    BTW the other videos posted here suck and make it look bad for Floyd. Just found this one. Cortez clearly said lets go. Watch and learn.



                    James
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                    • Chairib
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 03-08-10
                      • 917

                      #115
                      Rigged to accomplish what exactly? The absolute stupidity of this place never ceases to amaze me.
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Flexin
                        No. But is he signed to UFC?

                        James
                        Well he's listed as a fighter on their site so yes, but then UFC (ZUFFA) own Strikeforce as well so technically he has been signed to UFC since the takeover. And regardless of whether he is signed to them or not, the point is that UFC do go out of their way to give fans the fights they want, and made Lesnar vs Overeem - which is the opposite of what you said.
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                        • Vaughany
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 03-07-10
                          • 45563

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Flexin
                          BTW the other videos posted here suck and make it look bad for Floyd. Just found this one. Cortez clearly said lets go. Watch and learn.



                          James
                          All tht shows is tht Ortiz is full of shit! Trying to make out it wasnt a deliberate head-butt...get the **** out of here son! Then he's grinning and smiling after the whole thing, makes no sense! Saying "It Happens"!!!! When does it happen! How often have u seen tht kinda shit go down!?
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                          • Flexin
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-09-10
                            • 969

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                            Well he's listed as a fighter on their site so yes, but then UFC (ZUFFA) own Strikeforce as well so technically he has been signed to UFC since the takeover. And regardless of whether he is signed to them or not, the point is that UFC do go out of their way to give fans the fights they want, and made Lesnar vs Overeem - which is the opposite of what you said.
                            That isn't the opposite of what I said. They have to have the fighter under contract before they will even give them a fight. If they don't like a guy or just can't get a contract signed they will not allow them to fight one of their fighters.

                            Don King use to pull shit like that. He would only sign for you to fight his champ if you allowed him to have a cut of your next X number of fights. Good business move but a prick move as well I think.

                            UFC format can make it WAY easier to make certain fights happen (they don't have much of a choice on if they sign that fight or not. Seems to be what White says goes.) but it doesn't allow other fighters to come in and fight unless they can get picked up by the UFC. So it can be good or bad.

                            Nobody is perfect and there isn't a perfect sport.

                            James
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                            • Flexin
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-09-10
                              • 969

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                              All tht shows is tht Ortiz is full of shit! Trying to make out it wasnt a deliberate head-butt...get the **** out of here son! Then he's grinning and smiling after the whole thing, makes no sense! Saying "It Happens"!!!! When does it happen! How often have u seen tht kinda shit go down!?
                              It also shows him attempting another headbutt at 1:48. He isn't even slick about it.

                              I don't look into the smiling too much. Some people smile if they are happy, in trouble or what ever. And there isn't much else he can do. Can't cry about it have those two head butts causing you to take a nap.

                              James
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                              • QuantumLeap
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-22-08
                                • 6880

                                #120
                                Why do you guys even deal with this horseshit? It's been fixed for decades.

                                I've watched 1 fight since 1980.
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                                • shari91
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 02-23-10
                                  • 32661

                                  #121
                                  Thanks for the video James. Sucks that I happened to miss this part of the match live but that made up for it. FWIW, those commentators suck. They never once mentioned the ref saying "let's go" when they were yapping about how unclassy Floyd was. And the ref clearly said it, regardless of who he chose to look at afterwards.
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                                  • Flexin
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-09-10
                                    • 969

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by QuantumLeap
                                    Why do you guys even deal with this horseshit? It's been fixed for decades. I've watched 1 fight since 1980.
                                    You missed some great fights.

                                    Originally posted by shari91
                                    Thanks for the video James. Sucks that I happened to miss this part of the match live but that made up for it. FWIW, those commentators suck. They never once mentioned the ref saying "let's go" when they were yapping about how unclassy Floyd was. And the ref clearly said it, regardless of who he chose to look at afterwards.
                                    Your welcome. I watched it at a sports bar and I think most there missed as well including me. I wasn't 100% sure if he called time in or not. We were still screaming about the headbutt. I was pretty sure it was legal but wasn't sure because everything happened so fast. I'm glad that video was posted so I didn't have to wait for the replay to know for sure.

                                    James
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                                    • 8ArIvd5
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-24-10
                                      • 3175

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by shari91
                                      Thanks for the video James. Sucks that I happened to miss this part of the match live but that made up for it. FWIW, those commentators suck. They never once mentioned the ref saying "let's go" when they were yapping about how unclassy Floyd was. And the ref clearly said it, regardless of who he chose to look at afterwards.
                                      i think peoples beef with mayweather is he swung twice at ortiz when his hands were down. one of which ortiz was looking at the ref. it's obvious ortiz was confused about whether or not they were supposed to be boxing, and mayweather took advantage of the situation in a classless way.

                                      i understand protect yourself at all times, and the ruling was a ko, but that was bad sportsmanship. hard to argue it wasn't.
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                                      • Flexin
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-09-10
                                        • 969

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by 8ArIvd5
                                        i think peoples beef with mayweather is he swung twice at ortiz when his hands were down. one of which ortiz was looking at the ref. it's obvious ortiz was confused about whether or not they were supposed to be boxing, and mayweather took advantage of the situation in a classless way. i understand protect yourself at all times, and the ruling was a ko, but that was bad sportsmanship. hard to argue it wasn't.
                                        He said lets go. The fight was back on. Mayweather didn't hit him right away. How long do you want him to wait? I don't like that it happened in that spot but it wasn't as bad as some are saying. The fight was on. I see that video is now down but if you watch it you can see Mayweather puts his hands up to protect him self and looks like he expects a shot to be coming his way. When it didn't come he threw a two punch combo.

                                        Hitting him on the way in would have definitely been sportsmen like but this wasn't. Might be border line but... I wish it didn't end that way but things happen.

                                        As far as having his hands down. That is own fault. Cortez said lets go. That means the fight is back on. He should have been ready. Maybe he didn't hear him say it. Its hard to say but they tell you protect yourself at all times. If he had his hands up it would have been fine. If it was an illegal punch and he had his hands up the point he loss could have been evened up with a loss of a point for Floyd.

                                        He also already apologized.

                                        Let Mayweather and Manny fight. Let Berto and Ortiz rematch then have the two winners fight.

                                        James
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                                        • 8ArIvd5
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-24-10
                                          • 3175

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by Flexin
                                          He said lets go. The fight was back on. Mayweather didn't hit him right away. How long do you want him to wait? I don't like that it happened in that spot but it wasn't as bad as some are saying. The fight was on. I see that video is now down but if you watch it you can see Mayweather puts his hands up to protect him self and looks like he expects a shot to be coming his way. When it didn't come he threw a two punch combo.

                                          Hitting him on the way in would have definitely been sportsmen like but this wasn't. Might be border line but... I wish it didn't end that way but things happen.

                                          As far as having his hands down. That is own fault. Cortez said lets go. That means the fight is back on. He should have been ready. Maybe he didn't hear him say it. Its hard to say but they tell you protect yourself at all times. If he had his hands up it would have been fine. If it was an illegal punch and he had his hands up the point he loss could have been evened up with a loss of a point for Floyd.

                                          He also already apologized.

                                          Let Mayweather and Manny fight. Let Berto and Ortiz rematch then have the two winners fight.

                                          James
                                          i agree, if he had his hands up it would have been fine. but he didn't, so i see it as bad sportsmanship.

                                          i'm not arguing whether or not it was legal, i'm saying it was bad sportsmanship.
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                                          • AribaAriba
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-03-09
                                            • 2922

                                            #126
                                            man! i love both ufc and boxing, both can offer fights. STOP this bs boxing vs mma.
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                                            • Flexin
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 10-09-10
                                              • 969

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by 8ArIvd5
                                              i agree, if he had his hands up it would have been fine. but he didn't, so i see it as bad sportsmanship. i'm not arguing whether or not it was legal, i'm saying it was bad sportsmanship.
                                              It was stupid on his part. You don't drop your hands during the fight. They were in the fight.

                                              James
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                                              • King Mayan
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-22-10
                                                • 21326

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by Flexin
                                                It was stupid on his part. You don't drop your hands during the fight. They were in the fight.

                                                James
                                                For someone that boxes or has a boxing avatar, you should know that the ref never locked them in and separated them, all he said was " let's go" and starting talking to the judges. It was a cheap shot and mayweather knew it, that's why you see gay looking at the ref from the corner of his eye has hes punching Ortiz.
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                                                • Flexin
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-09-10
                                                  • 969

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by King Mayan
                                                  For someone that boxes or has a boxing avatar, you should know that the ref never locked them in and separated them, all he said was " let's go" and starting talking to the judges. It was a cheap shot and mayweather knew it, that's why you see gay looking at the ref from the corner of his eye has hes punching Ortiz.
                                                  Thats me in my avatar.

                                                  He said lets go. Cortez could have done a better job controlling the fighters. We are not all going to agree on this. I feel it was border line. In the end it was a legal punch which is what matters the most.

                                                  Now its time to see if Manny can win his next fight and make Mayweather-Pac happen.

                                                  James
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                                                  • OMGRandyJackson
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-07-10
                                                    • 1680

                                                    #130
                                                    Anyone have a link or download to the full fight?
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                                                    • raydog
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-07-07
                                                      • 6984

                                                      #131
                                                      fixed? hahah, idiots...bad luck for ortiz? maybe...fixed? not a fukking chance...no reason to fix anything...thats as pissed as ive ever seen floyd...and he gets really pissed at his dad...nothing fixed about the fight...dumbass should have been ready to fight...he definitely deserved a cheap shot or two for the whoreshit headbutt and i would levy a fine on his ass if i were the commissioner ...that kind of shit is horrible for the sport...

                                                      still, the entire ppv was better than most ufc ppv's ive seen in a long ass time...nothing wrong with paying for a boxing ppv once a year or so...the rest of the big fights are on showtime and hbo...the real sheep are the morons that pay for the sorry ass ufc ppv's every damn month...

                                                      love to see people hate on mayweather when all he does is win.
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                                                      • OMGRandyJackson
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-07-10
                                                        • 1680

                                                        #132
                                                        lol are you a ******* retard? levy a fine on his ass? haha every boxer would be broke if you were gonna fine for head butts...For every 1 KO theres like 9million head butts. Dirty but part of the game.
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                                                        • AribaAriba
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-03-09
                                                          • 2922

                                                          #133
                                                          [quote=OMGRandyJackson;11492451]lol are you a ******* retard? levy a fine on his ass? haha every boxer would be broke if you were gonna fine for head butts...For every 1 KO theres like 9million head butts. Dirty but part of the game.[/quoteI believe a warning should be a reasonable for the headbutt since it didnt cause that much a damage but again this is boxing=politics.
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                                                          • Pabinator
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-04-09
                                                            • 1238

                                                            #134
                                                            Hey King see the problems youve started. Tell me this, is boxing going to give us what we all want, Pacroid vs Mayweather?
                                                            Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!
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                                                            • iifold
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 04-25-10
                                                              • 11111

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by Pabinator
                                                              Hey King see the problems youve started. Tell me this, is boxing going to give us what we all want, Pacroid vs Mayweather?
                                                              No,

                                                              If this was going to happen, it would have happened already...

                                                              Only chance is if Floyd somehow loses most of his money and has to accept a beating from a roided out Pacquaio to make some money...
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                                                              • INVEGA MAN
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-30-08
                                                                • 6803

                                                                #136
                                                                He wants a rematch. get your $70 ready
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                                                                • raydog
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 11-07-07
                                                                  • 6984

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson
                                                                  lol are you a ******* retard? levy a fine on his ass? haha every boxer would be broke if you were gonna fine for head butts...For every 1 KO theres like 9million head butts. Dirty but part of the game.
                                                                  blatant low blows and blantant headbutts like ortiz are fined all the time... obviously, accidentals arent...again, people talking just to hear themselves talk ...
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                                                                  • raydog
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-07-07
                                                                    • 6984

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson
                                                                    lol are you a ******* retard? levy a fine on his ass? haha every boxer would be broke if you were gonna fine for head butts...For every 1 KO theres like 9million head butts. Dirty but part of the game.
                                                                    blatant low blows and blantant headbutts like ortiz are fined all the time... obviously, accidentals arent...again, people talking just to hear themselves talk and dont care to look into something...
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                                                                    • AribaAriba
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-03-09
                                                                      • 2922

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Miss Jackson(floyd's bitch) twitted his winning on the 4th round, Lucky Guess?http://lockerz.com/s/139929115
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                                                                      • spankie
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 02-10-11
                                                                        • 9992

                                                                        #140
                                                                        boring fight like always. boxing sucks huge rods.
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