greek was an A or A+ book as was their affiliate book, they didnt stiff people but they transferred the funds to Heritage, a C- book IMO, a book without nearly the options you got at the 2 books it replaced. Pinnacle simply closed up and had people withdraw funds. Another A book gone.
Matchbook was a B or B- book here, they stopped taking US customer, and they got downgraded to an F almost instantly, then because they paid 5 or 6 guys they got put back to a B or B-. Why did they get downgraded so fast? And why did they get upgraded so fast? People still havent ben paid by them yet almost 6 months out. Pinnacle had guy paid in a couple months. And some guys had 6 figures there. Took them a month to pay all mine off but when you take out 9999 at a time it takes awhile. But they didnt slow pay anyone they just let people withdraw what they could so as to avoid suspicion.
Poker sites the same thing. They were supposed to be legal EVERYONE played poker online. But overnight it was lumped in the same as sportsbooks. How many guys still have thousands and thousands of dollars in poker sites? Todd frigging brunson has almost 200K in one, Howard Lederer paid him out of the trunk or his car because brunson couldnt get the money. And these books spent BILLIONS on advertising and marketing for years, then they simply disappeared, and took the money with them. But use the regulations as a guise as to why people arent getting paid. Which is exactly what any sportsbook could do if they wanted to. So ANY book, I dont care who they are could stiff you. Would they? Maybe not, but mostly because they dont have enough money to make it worth it. But the books from 5 or 6 yearsago that were all rated high that simply disappeared surely did.
People might think it is safer, it isnt the difference is guys have enough brains not to have big balances off shore these days, so it doesnt entice the books into stealing it.
Most of the guys on the forum shit their pants because they have to pay 50 bux to get 500. or worry if they have more than 5K in a book. Try having 6 figures in one or two and then see how that tastes. Then ask for it all to be moved or withdrawn and see how you feel if they dont or wont do it immediately.
The legality is beside the point. The main point is if a book stiffs you you have no recourse. Look at this guy suing one of the biggest exchanges there is. All smoke and mirrors and semantics on why he isnt paid, but no one really cares because it isnt them.
The ultimate is that books are now rated way too high. In what universe is 5dimes on the same level as Pinnacle? Both are rated A+. And in what universe is BoDog an A rated joint? Complete joke. There are also maybe 5 or 6 places bigger and better than Pinnacle this place doesnt even acknowledge. Where are they? And it isnt because US players cant play there, because half the books they have graded are closed to US player. Plus if this is supposed to be a global site then all books and exchanges should be represented. Not just the ones everyone has heard of. Or pay for advertising.
If you have a small balance no worries, but if you have a figure that is big enough to be nervous about you should. Legal or not.
Matchbook was a B or B- book here, they stopped taking US customer, and they got downgraded to an F almost instantly, then because they paid 5 or 6 guys they got put back to a B or B-. Why did they get downgraded so fast? And why did they get upgraded so fast? People still havent ben paid by them yet almost 6 months out. Pinnacle had guy paid in a couple months. And some guys had 6 figures there. Took them a month to pay all mine off but when you take out 9999 at a time it takes awhile. But they didnt slow pay anyone they just let people withdraw what they could so as to avoid suspicion.
Poker sites the same thing. They were supposed to be legal EVERYONE played poker online. But overnight it was lumped in the same as sportsbooks. How many guys still have thousands and thousands of dollars in poker sites? Todd frigging brunson has almost 200K in one, Howard Lederer paid him out of the trunk or his car because brunson couldnt get the money. And these books spent BILLIONS on advertising and marketing for years, then they simply disappeared, and took the money with them. But use the regulations as a guise as to why people arent getting paid. Which is exactly what any sportsbook could do if they wanted to. So ANY book, I dont care who they are could stiff you. Would they? Maybe not, but mostly because they dont have enough money to make it worth it. But the books from 5 or 6 yearsago that were all rated high that simply disappeared surely did.
People might think it is safer, it isnt the difference is guys have enough brains not to have big balances off shore these days, so it doesnt entice the books into stealing it.
Most of the guys on the forum shit their pants because they have to pay 50 bux to get 500. or worry if they have more than 5K in a book. Try having 6 figures in one or two and then see how that tastes. Then ask for it all to be moved or withdrawn and see how you feel if they dont or wont do it immediately.
The legality is beside the point. The main point is if a book stiffs you you have no recourse. Look at this guy suing one of the biggest exchanges there is. All smoke and mirrors and semantics on why he isnt paid, but no one really cares because it isnt them.
The ultimate is that books are now rated way too high. In what universe is 5dimes on the same level as Pinnacle? Both are rated A+. And in what universe is BoDog an A rated joint? Complete joke. There are also maybe 5 or 6 places bigger and better than Pinnacle this place doesnt even acknowledge. Where are they? And it isnt because US players cant play there, because half the books they have graded are closed to US player. Plus if this is supposed to be a global site then all books and exchanges should be represented. Not just the ones everyone has heard of. Or pay for advertising.
If you have a small balance no worries, but if you have a figure that is big enough to be nervous about you should. Legal or not.
.....john walker needs to pay me for this public service 
