Regulated USA poker sites will be handing over YOUR financial info to the IRS!

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  • megamillionslose
    SBR MVP
    • 08-20-08
    • 2758

    #1
    Regulated USA poker sites will be handing over YOUR financial info to the IRS!
    Always a "catch" from those GREEDY c*cksmokers!FED crime for tax evasion definitely ain't no walk in the park.Taking 28% of your winnings off the top may be the norm!
  • FishFace5
    SBR MVP
    • 10-15-09
    • 1768

    #2
    I'm very interested to see how fast they move towards regulation.
    Im also interested to see what type of tax model these greedy gov't bastards come up with.
    We all know that if they plan to treat winnings as normal income, they might as well stop wasting everyone's time and just shut the whole thing down.
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    • jarvol
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-13-10
      • 6074

      #3
      All you have to do is claim the same amount in losses and you won't have to pay tax.
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      • tblues2005
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-30-06
        • 9235

        #4
        All you have to do is right it off and tell them you lost it at the casinos. You may need written proof of it. You do have to be right on top of it also.
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        • FishFace5
          SBR MVP
          • 10-15-09
          • 1768

          #5
          They cant tax winnings like normal income.
          NOBODY can cover a 30% vig.
          Our gov't needs to look at how other countries handle these matters and adopt a similar model.
          If they want to take 3-5% I'll be the 1st in line.
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          • Cuse0323
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 12-09-09
            • 30169

            #6
            Lucky me, I never won anything so I'm good.
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            • jgray
              SBR MVP
              • 09-06-09
              • 3599

              #7
              Ha. 5% tax rate on winnings? No. It will be taxed as ordinary income just like other forms of gambling. Why would it be treated any differently?
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              • Killer_Demo
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-15-08
                • 8409

                #8
                i think it will be 40% shakedown from the govt
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                • Shack
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 04-13-06
                  • 314

                  #9
                  I'm sure they will send out tax statements at year end just like brokerage companies. That's the purpose to legalize, regulate, and tax. That's what we want.
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                  • beach nut
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-18-09
                    • 589

                    #10
                    I am totally in agreement with this. The sooner we can get regulated poker sites the better. Everyone should be paying their taxes anyway.
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                    • MB
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-05-09
                      • 1072

                      #11
                      Do you guys still play poker at your online sportsbook?
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                      • clarkacal
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-03-09
                        • 353

                        #12
                        I'm more interested to know if they will be charging self employment tax on winnings.
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                        • wtt0315
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-18-07
                          • 8037

                          #13
                          you cant claim your losses unless you have a house
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                          • topgame85
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-30-08
                            • 12325

                            #14
                            Originally posted by clarkacal
                            I'm more interested to know if they will be charging self employment tax on winnings.

                            If it is "your job" they probably would. Work 10 hours a week at CVS to avoid this if it happens.
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                            • FuzzyDunlop
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-15-11
                              • 2422

                              #15
                              Originally posted by clarkacal
                              I'm more interested to know if they will be charging self employment tax on winnings.
                              Need three consecutive years of gambling as your PSOI before SE tax kicks in.
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                              • clarkacal
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-03-09
                                • 353

                                #16
                                Having another job doesnt mean it isnt self employment. Lots of people get w-2s but file a schedule C (self employmeny)for other work they do.
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                                • topgame85
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-30-08
                                  • 12325

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by clarkacal
                                  Having another job doesnt mean it isnt self employment. Lots of people get w-2s but file a schedule C (self employmeny)for other work they do.
                                  Why would they want to do that?
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                                  • clarkacal
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-03-09
                                    • 353

                                    #18
                                    If they get a 1099 misc or if they have a business on the side and dont cheat on their taxes
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                                    • topgame85
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-30-08
                                      • 12325

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by clarkacal
                                      If they get a 1099 misc or if they have a business on the side and dont cheat on their taxes
                                      OK, well clearly I am not a tax genius, turbo tax and hrblock for me. Know about a few extra requirements I have run into and discussed with an accountant in the past but most of the time count on the pay services to give me the final answer. Thanks for the info though, I may need that info someday.
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                                      • clarkacal
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-03-09
                                        • 353

                                        #20
                                        I'm not sure how the IRS treats poker winnings. If it is treated as other income like gambling w-2gs are then there isn't self employment tax(social security medicare) but if they determine having poker winnings is a type of employment they will want that hefty percentage on top of income tax.
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                                        • andywend
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-20-07
                                          • 4805

                                          #21
                                          The current law when it comes to taxation of gambling winnings is ridiculous and needs to be changed.

                                          Gambling income is treated differently than investment income.

                                          If you lose $100,000 in say calendar year 2011 and make $100,000 in calendar year 2012, you get no tax deduction in calendar year 2011 and have to pay FULL INCOME TAXES in calendar year 2012.

                                          If you lose, you are on your own. If you win, Uncle Sam becomes your partner and wants their share along with any state tax liability.
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                                          • sq764
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-17-07
                                            • 1026

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by FishFace5
                                            They cant tax winnings like normal income.
                                            NOBODY can cover a 30% vig.
                                            Our gov't needs to look at how other countries handle these matters and adopt a similar model.
                                            If they want to take 3-5% I'll be the 1st in line.
                                            they can and they do, they do it with horseracing now..
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                                            • sq764
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-17-07
                                              • 1026

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by andywend
                                              The current law when it comes to taxation of gambling winnings is ridiculous and needs to be changed.

                                              Gambling income is treated differently than investment income.

                                              If you lose $100,000 in say calendar year 2011 and make $100,000 in calendar year 2012, you get no tax deduction in calendar year 2011 and have to pay FULL INCOME TAXES in calendar year 2012.

                                              If you lose, you are on your own. If you win, Uncle Sam becomes your partner and wants their share along with any state tax liability.
                                              not true.. you can claim all your losses against your winnings..
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                                              • treece
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-28-07
                                                • 6298

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by beach nut
                                                I am totally in agreement with this. The sooner we can get regulated poker sites the better. Everyone should be paying their taxes anyway.
                                                yea so the government can spend that tax money on bombing libya for no reason.
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                                                • ttwarrior1
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 06-23-09
                                                  • 28460

                                                  #25
                                                  they'll screw it all up somehow,
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                                                  • Doug
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 6324

                                                    #26
                                                    I trust the gov't to f\*\*k it up !
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                                                    • Pajda
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-25-09
                                                      • 1385

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by megamillionslose
                                                      Always a "catch" from those GREEDY c*cksmokers!FED crime for tax evasion definitely ain't no walk in the park.Taking 28% of your winnings off the top may be the norm!
                                                      You supposed to pay taxes on your winnings anyway.
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                                                      • wtf
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-22-08
                                                        • 12983

                                                        #28
                                                        on horse racing the taxes do not kick in till the win exceeds 300-1

                                                        so why would they tax every penny u win on poker
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                                                        • Roosterfosho
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 06-15-11
                                                          • 170

                                                          #29
                                                          That's odd.
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                                                          • samdapatriotsfan
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-10-08
                                                            • 1585

                                                            #30
                                                            At what point do they start taxing? If a guy made $600 from a book are they gonna come after him for that?
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                                                            • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 05-29-08
                                                              • 9285

                                                              #31
                                                              A sportsbook would be just like your employer in terms of taxes. At the end of the year they will send the irs a earnings form. Therefore no if you win 600 and withdraw that amount you wont pay taxes on it immediately. Not until the end of the year. Unless you choose to withold a amount on each of your withdraws as you do with regular income.
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                                                              • Czu81
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-25-09
                                                                • 1082

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by treece
                                                                yea so the government can spend that tax money on bombing libya for no reason.


                                                                Poker is CRIME!
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                                                                • tatommack
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-10-08
                                                                  • 4171

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i swear the irs sucks to hard to keep up with all the paper work they need
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                                                                  • MortalLock
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 09-10-10
                                                                    • 215

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Cant wait till its regulated (btw winnings should be taxed) i play for a living so i already pay taxes on winning so no prob for me there. Lets just get this regulated & we will see another poker boom. Will be so many fish playing. They may just take the certain tax % out when you withdrawl, sounds like they way they would do it, so they get everyones tax $
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                                                                    • AzNDooM
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-29-08
                                                                      • 1611

                                                                      #35
                                                                      If your able to be taxed on poker, then I would assume you can also claim on your losses?
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