SBR Poker = Total Bullshit!

[Cuse0323]

Unreal, finally read the whole thread. I tried to avoid it and can only say that for some of you, SBR poker must be the first you've played.

[Cuse0323]

You ever notice how many times, last hand before the break, three monsters are dealt to three people, making for 3 way all in action?

I've seen something like this more than once, "tables going on break at the conclusion of this hand"

Player 1 gets ace-ace
Player 2 gets king-king
Player 3 gets like K-Q suited.

Two get eliminated right before break.

Well shit, that never happens anywhere.

[chachi]

cuse - FWIW I seem to recall that no1 is not a US citizen nor a native English speaker ...

his English/grammar is better than many in PT/PZ

[tkim8404]

There will be more suckouts due to players playing any two cards. It happens and that's poker.

[Cuse0323]

cuse - FWIW I seem to recall that no1 is not a US citizen nor a native English speaker ...

his English/grammar is better than many in PT/PZ

I don't know where he's from, though I know he's a big pothead/grower who thinks he's something special at poker. Everyone thinks they're the best I guess.

[hhsilver]

.......
In the tourneys I witnessed I would guess maybe 50% seemingly were using an early 'strategy' of trying to buy the pot/bluff their asses off/bully with SFA for cards and therefore style, skill and ability were out the window until the idiots were done flinging chips around like they were free ... oh wait, they were free, that explains it

good ---- there's no way to compare a game with free chips to one where people bet their own money.

[mikejamm]

You ever notice how many times, last hand before the break, three monsters are dealt to three people, making for 3 way all in action? I've seen something like this more than once, "tables going on break at the conclusion of this hand" Player 1 gets ace-ace Player 2 gets king-king Player 3 gets like K-Q suited. Two get eliminated right before break.

Yes indeed! Seen this shit happen numerous times, always 3 or more monster hands and always ranging from top hole pair AA on down. It sucks in 3 or more all ins right at the break, and knocks out two or more highly paired hands. Of course this so "random" that other players have noticed it as well!

And downsouth, not trying to be a d-bag here bro, just trying to raise a reasonable argument that the poker software, disconnects, re-seating bullshit, are set up to perform exactly that way, which is not fuk'in random!

I used banker boy Thadd as an example because he has his lips firmly planted against sbr's ass and any thread I make which questions something or makes people think, he's gotta troll on it and make his smart as remarks. Plus he (Thadd) and his former favorite douche bag customer Bateman accused me of collusion early on in sbr poker and both made a point to bring the bullshit up at chat every time I played. There was all this talk of reporting me and I should be kicked out of poker, etc... Of course nothing came of it and several players defended me and bateshit is now gone. But the fact still remains, Thadd egged bateman's ass on and supported his asshole accusations only because bateshit was one of his best customers. Thadd's never bothered to say "Hey man sorry about that I fuk'ed up", even though he knew what an asshole lying prick bateshit was! So yeah, I got a problem with banker boy and his cok mouth attitude!

[illmatick]

think I'm owed a few bad beat t-shirts.

[bracerman]

The qualifying tournament has been particularly brutal. Wished I would have noted down the hands when I've been was knocked out. It's almost a given with a pf allin that KJ will beat AK and AT will beat AJ

[BeerDog99]

I have noticed the quicker someone goes to swearing or name-calling, the less real data/proof they have. If you are trying to prove real points, back it up with real data. Otherwise you will get all of the 3rd party, memory and heresay crap back and forth that we are seeing in this.

I can add to it also and say that I see all of the setups, cold decks and big stacks taking it all away but it just my perspective and memory without real data to back it up.

My last point on this is this. Let's say SBR poker is rigged, do you think these posts will do anything to change them? No it won't, the only way it will ever come to light is real evidence from user(s) gathering the data or from an insider. Just like when Absolute Poker was caught, it was combo of both... Otherwise it is all noise.

My advice is to tone down the nastiness and gather real data, that is the only way any real consipiracy will ever be brought to light.

And remember, this is all for free....zero/ziltch is invested so if it is rigged, oh well, hopefully they start to favour me someday... :-)

Cheers and good luck!

[oiler]

sure seems like it is that way but who knows

[LVHerbie]

All online poker is rigged... Luckily the DOJ is finally protecting all of us who keep playing despite already knowing this...

[chachi]

Luckily the DOJ is finally protecting all of us

[stevenash]

Well shit, that never happens anywhere.

Multiple times?
Not likely.

[kidk]

its online poker its like this everywhere

[Swinging Johnson]

If you want to nake real money, go the SBR casino. Trust me on this!

[chachi]

[garretman]

i have to agree with you alot of bad beats if people had to pay to get in they would not call with bs

[Cuse0323]

SBR's poker software hasn't been able to avoid disconnects on certain platforms and is messed up when the forum crashes. Yet, they've figured out how to rig it. Don't worry Mikey, you'll qualify eventually with a 15th place finish. Give it time.

[Cuse0323]

Multiple times?
Not likely.

Seen it many times. And the person going all-in KQ is dumb, not the software's fault.

[Slainte]

I didn't read the whole thread, i've seen so many similar threads about poker being rigged and so on, but guys come on use some common sense, who will care to fix a poker platform based on points.

[Czu81]

i don't know where he's from, though i know he's a big pothead/grower who thinks he's something special at poker. Everyone thinks they're the best i guess.

human nature

[dochall2u]

I think anytime you play online games and not being able to see what is going on in front of you;you are going to become suspicious.I have yet to see a winner say i won because it was rigged?

[WileOut]

I notice substantially different hand outcomes in tourneys vs. cash tables. Hands at cash tables seem to coincide more with the law of averages.

This is absolutely true, and it was true at PS and FT. And like the OP said......in tourneys all online poker sites favor the big stack. Every site. I have played a lifetime of hands offline and online, and in tourneys online the big stacks are so blatantly favored at every site, you quickly realize that you have to be ultra aggressive in tourneys online or else quit. I was a winning poker player but when I went online, which was right when online poker started, I quickly learned to play ultra aggressively in tourneys. I hated the way it was, but those that caught on made good money.

Read an interview with pro poker players on the difference between the way they play online tourneys vs the way they play live tourneys and you get the same answer every time. They are far less aggressive in live tourneys. That is because you get random cards in live tourneys and I don't think you do in online tourneys.

I think it has something to do with getting the online tourney over with as quickly as possible, for whatever reason.

[pavyracer]

Guy goes ALL IN with pocket AA's. Guy calls him with pocket Q's. Flop has one Ace and one Queen. Guy with QQ's is chip leader. He gets a Q on the river for quad Q's to beat the pocket AA's. RNG? Hmmm..

[mikejamm]

This is absolutely true, and it was true at PS and FT. And like the OP said......in tourneys all online poker sites favor the big stack. Every site. I have played a lifetime of hands offline and online, and in tourneys online the big stacks are so blatantly favored at every site, you quickly realize that you have to be ultra aggressive in tourneys online or else quit. I was a winning poker player but when I went online, which was right when online poker started, I quickly learned to play ultra aggressively in tourneys. I hated the way it was, but those that caught on made good money. Read an interview with pro poker players on the difference between the way they play online tourneys vs the way they play live tourneys and you get the same answer every time. They are far less aggressive in live tourneys. That is because you get random cards in live tourneys and I don't think you do in online tourneys. I think it has something to do with getting the online tourney over with as quickly as possible, for whatever reason.

Good point and I referred to the length of run time for tournaments vs cash games early on. However, I have been able to battle back and even place in tournaments on PS and FT while being short stacked. Such is never the case here, every single time I've watched or pushed all in short stacked, and even if I've got the better hole cards, the larger stack will end up hitting a winner of the turn or river, it's a fuk'in given. RNG my ass, no software should be configured to fuk someone over who's short stacked and mak'in a big move to get back in the game.

[fsfalcons]

whats the minimum you can go into a poker game with here?

[mikejamm]

Guy goes ALL IN with pocket AA's. Guy calls him with pocket Q's. Flop has one Ace and one Queen. Guy with QQ's is chip leader. He gets a Q on the river for quad Q's to beat the pocket AA's. RNG? Hmmm..

Story of my poker life play'in at sbr! Fuk'in AA is a joke trick hand designed to make you shove just so you can endure the agony of what you just described! Here a another one, you push all in Ks,Kd short stacked against Jh,Js, the flop comes 2h, 5h, 7h, the turn Kh, river 9c! Your trip K's just got fuk'ed by a oh so random flush of hearts! Yeah this fuk'in happened to me!

[mikejamm]

whats the minimum you can go into a poker game with here?

40 pts for $200 ring games. 200 pts for the $1000 games. Tourneys are 15 pts most of the time, free if you're a sbr "Pro".

[downsouth]

200 pts for ring games. Tourneys are 15 pts most of the time, free if you're a sbr "Pro".

Actually minimum you can buy in for is 40. Maximum at 200 game buy in is 200.

And mike I would love to take you up on your offer however being in US stars/tilt are not really options for me any longer. Just so you dont think IM ignoring you.

[mikejamm]

Actually minimum you can buy in for is 40. Maximum at 200 game buy in is 200. And mike I would love to take you up on your offer however being in US stars/tilt are not really options for me any longer. Just so you dont think IM ignoring you.

No problem dude, and I changed my post to the "minimum" 200 table amount, although you'd be an idiot to sit down at ring table with 40 pts, especially if everybody around you has 200 or more. The minimum for the 1000 table is 200 though. Yeah I figure you'd have some bullshit excuse, just remember dude, you don't fuk'in know me, I've been play'in poker for over 20 years, so your little douche bag analysis doesn't mean shit to me. I spotted an uncommon trend in this software and merely pointed it out. You being a prick and attacking my playing style just shows your immature ignorance. Hope you're feel'in better though, maybe if you didn't spend so much on the computer, and got a little rest, that infection might clear up.

[donkdown]

if it makes u feel better i just got beat by 63 vs qq!! illmatic he he he!!

[downsouth]

No problem dude, and I changed my post to the "minimum" 200 table amount, although you'd be an idiot to sit down at ring table with 40 pts, especially if everybody around you has 200 or more. The minimum for the 1000 table is 200 though. Yeah I figure you'd have some bullshit excuse, just remember dude, you don't fuk'in know me, I've been play'in poker for over 20 years, so your little douche bag analysis doesn't mean shit to me. I spotted an uncommon trend in this software and merely pointed it out. You being a prick and attacking my playing style just shows your immature ignorance. Hope you're feel'in better though, maybe if you didn't spend so much on the computer, and got a little rest, that infection might clear up.

You calling someone immature is hilarious. If you are half as old as you claim and whine/act like you do then it is just pathetic and sad. I didnt attack your playing style until you went d bag on me for not agreeing with you. Dude look at your posts, over half are you whining about something. Why, its all free here, yet you find the need to constantly whine/complain/rant. Its like you have the mentality of a child.

Of course I have an excuse, I can't play online poker because the sites no longer will allow me. Its bulletproof. Of course your the expert so would crush me cause you've played for 20 years or whatever.

Im done arguing with you and look forward to your next whining rant.

Oh and I liked you better when you were panhandling points forever to get in the poker tourneys.

[benjamincarm]

I only play good cards, rarely am the bigger stack, and yet have made as many, or more, final tables as anyone this month. Last month, in theoretically significantly easier games (30/tourney instead of 60) I barely made any. It's called variance. That, combined with the simple fact that the vast majority of the field is playing bad because they either don't care or don't know better, is all you need to explain "weird" results. Believing dumb conspiracy theories is moronic, but hey if it makes you feel better about your losses tell yourself whatever you want.

This is spot on.

[donkdown]

ThaddeusB LOL U dont always play quality cards and u r a human card rack my friend!! Ive seen u more than not get it in bad and get there!! It's easy to say variance when u r winning!!