SBR Poker = Total Bullshit!

[Cuse0323]

Mikey is it still such bullshit after you sucked out twice to stay alive to make the final table.

[chachi]

burn ....

[Wrigley]

Is anyone forcing the whiners to play, Ive had many bad beats and have seen others get them to.

[mikejamm]

Mikey is it still such bullshit after you sucked out twice to stay alive to make the final table.

As usual, your stupidity has made you miss the point of the whole thread. I've pointed out along with several other players, winners or not, about how this software is set up, the way it reacts to supposedly common "random" variances, favors large chip stacks, and tends to award so called "hot streak" hole cards to certain players on a not so random basics. I already knew just by the process of observation and making a number of calls to him, that pako74 was going to win tonight, didn't make a bit of difference who was at the final table. The guy kept getting great "random" hole cards every hand and even when I had something decent to match up against him with, he'd flop, turn, or river a better hand. So at that point, strategy becomes meaningless, you just try and hang on for a decent finish. It is what it is, but it's not random.

[SBR_John]

Is anyone forcing the whiners to play, Ive had many bad beats and have seen others get them to.

That's poker.

Guys get caught up in the fact they had a 66% of winning on the river and lost. Those are great odds but no better than playing Russian Roulette with 2 bullets.

And usually it is the guy with a 66% advantage that goes all in and cries and cries when the 33% rivers him. I have a suggestion; dont be a hotdog. Bet the pot or something smaller. You are not sitting on a 99% chance so stop betting like you are.

[mikejamm]

burn ....

Wow, stuck in the 50's what a sad miserable existence! AAAAAAAAAAAyyyyyyy.... Fonzie called, he said chachi died a virgin and use to give blow jobs out back behind Arnold's for a nickel!

[horja1]

I think it has something to do with getting the online tourney over with as quickly as possible, for whatever reason.

Reason being: "... oh no, i had a bad beat and I'm out of this tournament ... but wait, another tournament/sit-n-go is starting ... ok, let's sign in ... 10/20/50 more USD for the house"

[chachi]

Wow, stuck in the 50's what a sad miserable existence! AAAAAAAAAAAyyyyyyy.... Fonzie called, he said chachi died a virgin and use to give blow jobs out back behind Arnold's for a nickel!

"stuck in the 50s" or being a whiny, moaning prick all the time ... know which one I'd go with

[mikejamm]

Wow, stuck in the 50's what a sad miserable existence! AAAAAAAAAAAyyyyyyy.... Fonzie called, he said chachi died a virgin and use to give blow jobs out back behind Arnold's for a nickel!

"stuck in the 50s" or being a whiny, moaning prick all the time ... know which one I'd go with

Here's a nickel chachi!

[chachi]

well after BP finally got the permaban he deserved my ignore list had an open slot ... not any more though

[ByeShea]

Wow, stuck in the 50's what a sad miserable existence! AAAAAAAAAAAyyyyyyy.... Fonzie called, he said chachi died a virgin and use to give blow jobs out back behind Arnold's for a nickel!

Is that Jerry Garcia's profile in your avatar?

Look, as a fan of Happy Days and the Dead, I implore you two to make peace.

(And to stop trusting the player's edge for gambling software ... that's like trusting the mafia not to steal)

[mikejamm]

Is that Jerry Garcia's profile in your avatar? Look, as a fan of Happy Days and the Dead, I implore you two to make peace. (And to stop trusting the player's edge for gambling software ... that's like trusting the mafia not to steal)

I agree, but chachi boy started it. Guy shows up and trolls taking pot shots rather than adding anything to the conversation. And then runs away crying, boo hoo you're on my ignore list! Thanks btw! I'm all about the peace man and really don't have a problem with anybody, just differences of opinions. But some of these guys wanna fuk'in go there, so yes I'll fuk'in go there! Don't really want to, but don't start shit if you're not prepared to have if flung back on you! Nice ass by the way!

[chachi]

Had to have a peek ... like driving past a car crash and having to slow down for a moment

Mike you whinge and moan about everything, and if people don't agree you go on the offensive and refer to people as immature, stupid, sbr ass kissers, homosexuals, etc.

You must be quite thin-skinned, since all I did was chuckle at someone else calling you out but that apparently equates to 'chachi boy started it'

I'm not the only one who has noticed that you 'go all douchebag the minute someone disagrees" so it's not me

I did make a post which was on point, but since it did not directly address any remark you made you must have skipped over it.

I've gone back and reread every post you made in this thread ... quasi-statistical breakdown as follows:

45% moaning
35% abuse towards those not in agreement
15% conspiracy theory / tin hat type stuff
5% JJ asslicking

Don't try to pretend your 'Mr Peace and Love' ... you're a internet bully wannabe who thinks 60% + edge in a hand equates to automatic winner, plain and simple.

I can change my avatar in a blink, somehow I think your 'SBR is out to screw me over' paranoia will take some time on a couch with a therapist.

With that, I bid you adieu and wish you the best against the crooked, skewed, anti-Mike poker software

[downsouth]

That's poker.

Guys get caught up in the fact they had a 66% of winning on the river and lost. Those are great odds but no better than playing Russian Roulette with 2 bullets.

And usually it is the guy with a 66% advantage that goes all in and cries and cries when the 33% rivers him. I have a suggestion; dont be a hotdog. Bet the pot or something smaller. You are not sitting on a 99% chance so stop betting like you are.

I actually want every chip in pot as 66% favorite every time.

[zam77]

Some days I don't say a thing to anyone, but others when I'm in the mood, it's fun to sit at a table and bs with guys on here that you have gotten acquainted with and chat with on forum on a daily/weekly or even monthly basis... that's the best part about SBR poker, the sense of comradery that is building on forum is really taking shape at the tables as well and vice versa.

Why bother continuing to e-fight over different angles that are not possible to justify unless you do what beerdog said and get some tangible evidence and history... until then who knows what's going on... and frankly who cares. It's still fun to play and a great place to improve your game for real money games.

[mikejamm]

Some days I don't say a thing to anyone, but others when I'm in the mood, it's fun to sit at a table and bs with guys on here that you have gotten acquainted with and chat with on forum on a daily/weekly or even monthly basis... that's the best part about SBR poker, the sense of comradery that is building on forum is really taking shape at the tables as well and vice versa. Why bother continuing to e-fight over different angles that are not possible to justify unless you do what beerdog said and get some tangible evidence and history... until then who knows what's going on... and frankly who cares. It's still fun to play and a great place to improve your game for real money games.

Totally agree zam. I guess it's all right for other players to whine about their bad beats, but when I bitch about something I'm being a douche bag or "extreme" whiner. Chachi, how about you go read downsouth's poker contest thread, players bitch and moan about weird bad beats in there all the time. As far as being defensive to certain people on here, I won't discount that, I probably do occasionally get a bit heated about shit, but only after some asshole wants to turn it into something personal. Like attacking my playing style as if they were the fuk'in genius of online poker, or accusing me of collusion and their source is none other than mr. asshole instigator himself, Bateman!

Chachi, I wasn't getting on to you about the "chuckle" or "burn" remark, but you've opened your mouth a few times in a smart ass reference to something I posted or in agreement with some idiot on here. What's more, I don't think you even play poker bro, I haven't seen you at the tables or caught your name on a winners list anywhere, so you really don't have a clue, except to get your two cents in. And that's cool too, everybody does it, some more hateful than others.

So as zam has so eloquently suggested, I'm going to take the high road here. I have been rather upset with my play and "luck" here lately, and it certainly doesn't help the situation to engage in a bitch fest pissing contest with fellow players. So I apologize for my "stuck in the '50's" remark. I actually liked "Happy Days" and always thought of it as a great family show. Even felt a bit sad when Tom Bosley passed on. And I want to extend that apology to anyone else whose experienced my negativity as well. It's not the type of person I want to be know as and it's certainly not a reflection of the person I am.

I generally like most of people on here and my whole reasoning of joining the forums was to exchange ideas, talk sports and become a better handicapper. A lot of that has fallen by the waste side, because I allowed myself to engage in hateful heated discussions with the batemans of sbr. Not anymore. I'm well aware there is a civil approach to conversing a topic with someone, even if you don't agree with the outcome or that person's point of view. I plan to play it that way from here on out.

[frizzelli]

Totally agree zam. I guess it's all right for other players to whine about their bad beats, but when I bitch about something I'm being a douche bag or "extreme" whiner. Chachi, how about you go read downsouth's poker contest thread, players bitch and moan about weird bad beats in there all the time. As far as being defensive to certain people on here, I won't discount that, I probably do occasionally get a bit heated about shit, but only after some asshole wants to turn it into something personal. Like attacking my playing style as if they were the fuk'in genius of online poker, or accusing me of collusion and their source is none other than mr. asshole instigator himself, Bateman! Chachi, I wasn't getting on to you about the "chuckle" or "burn" remark, but you've opened your mouth a few times in a smart ass reference to something I posted or in agreement with some idiot on here. What's more, I don't think you even play poker bro, I haven't seen you at the tables or caught your name on a winners list anywhere, so you really don't have a clue, except to get your two cents in. And that's cool too, everybody does it, some more hateful than others. So as zam has so eloquently suggested, I'm going to take the high road here. I have been rather upset with my play and "luck" here lately, and it certainly doesn't help the situation to engage in a bitch fest pissing contest with fellow players. So I apologize for my "stuck in the '50's" remark. I actually liked "Happy Days" and always thought of it as a great family show. Even felt a bit sad when Tom Bosley passed on. And I want to extend that apology to anyone else whose experienced my negativity as well. It's not the type of person I want to be know as and it's certainly not a reflection of the person I am. I generally like most of people on here and my whole reasoning of joining the forums was to exchange ideas, talk sports and become a better handicapper. A lot of that has fallen by the waste side, because I allowed myself to engage in hateful heated discussions with the batemans of sbr. Not anymore. I'm well aware there is a civil approach to conversing a topic with someone, even if you don't agree with the outcome or that person's point of view. I plan to play it that way from here on out.

Do you wake up in the morning and punch yourself in the stomach? That must be the only reason why you are fukkin angry all the time. UNFUKKINREAL

[mikejamm]

Do you wake up in the morning and punch yourself in the stomach? That must be the only reason why you are fukkin angry all the time. UNFUKKINREAL

Not angry all the time bro, actually quite happy most of the time. I have noticed you seem to be agitated quite a bit here lately, are you missing bateman that much?

[SBR_John]

I actually want every chip in pot as 66% favorite every time.

Me too.

My point is you will lose 1/3 of those over the long haul, guaranteed. Its not unfair, a bad beat special, rigged software or anything of the sort. Ive seen guys have a meltdown when a guy with two pairs hits a boat on the river after they went all in with 3 cowboys. It happens, like in Maverick.

[chachi]

fwiw mike, I played poker here heavily at the beginning and was final table the last three nights in a row in Feb.

I stopped in March as I live too far from the servers in CR ( ~7500mi I think ) and the latency/connection issues would force DC me upwards of two dozen times per contest, so I finally just stopped as it was winding me up building up a medium stack, calling on the flop, being raised, and force folded due to DC over and over.

[mikejamm]

fwiw mike, I played poker here heavily at the beginning and was final table the last three nights in a row in Feb. I stopped in March as I live too far from the servers in CR ( ~7500mi I think ) and the latency/connection issues would force DC me upwards of two dozen times per contest, so I finally just stopped as it was winding me up building up a medium stack, calling on the flop, being raised, and force folded due to DC over and over.

Bummer man, I can see where that would be pretty frustrating. You sure as heck know your trivia though.

[chachi]

One of my nicknames at the banks was Cliff ( as in Clavin )

[SpeedPro]

Which poker software is not rigged and I will go there right now!!!! LOL!

[mikejamm]

Which poker software is not rigged and I will go there right now!!!! LOL!

I just wish some of these bad beats weren't so blatantly obvious! It's like you can almost see it coming a mile away. Redundancy is not a good thing in online poker.

[no1here]

people calling for stats/numbers as proof, I suggest looking at number of royal flush winners compared to number of hands played which will show 3-4 times more then normal I am guessing. Even if only double proves that cards are not random as suggested. SBR knows how many hands played and knows most of the royal flushes and wonder what the numbers are. Very smart to create a contest and then many winners to promote, which was done here.

[aceking]

a lot of quads here too , 22 starting hand becomes 2222

[mikejamm]

a lot of quads here too , 22 starting hand becomes 2222

Yeah I'm seeing quads pop here on regular basics lately. It's strange, because in one session I'll see straights hitt'in left and right, of course I'll hit 4 cards with an open ender and neither card shows up! The next session it's flushes and/or quads. Maybe sbr could "tweek" the software to increase or decease the variance of the RNG and maybe we would see a more realistic outcome to certain hands. I mean come on, how often do you see quads at a live table? Has got to be one of lowest percentage hands out there.

[mikejamm]

OK, changing the title of my thread to "SBR Poker = Bad Beats Bullshit", instead of "Total BS" I can no longer condemn the entire program, because it does have it's high points, but damn there are some pretty low ones too! Still, fun to play, good competitors and glad we have it! Can a mod or sbr john help me out with this? Can you change a title to a thread? Thanks!

[ncat12]

it is nice to know that the constant (for this particular thread) is not change ....a whole lot of bitching goin on

[DRZ]

I'm going to win me one of these sooner or later, haah

[theteller]

Lmao

Just gotta love it, love the **** jobs dont ya kiddo?

-Jason

[horja1]

well ... fuuck online poker software ... you can play "by the book" and still can get fuucked a lot ...

[Jrod124]

Thats poker I have said it in many threads if u can't handle getting unlucky quit the sport. It happens to everyone

[mvp123]

stop complaining about mike because the dude is a good player imo

[AzNDooM]

Part of the game. Everyone gets lucky once in a while and if you cant handle a bad beat, dont play.