Anybody who thinks the Heat will lose the series v the bulls should stop gambling.

[lakerboy]

Lol

whats so funny? didnt you take heat ML in game 1?

[$Burm$]

If you laid -185 on the Heat for the series then you are a square, simple as that.

im not a machine...why didn't you eliminate them albert?

[rake922]

stern wants heat in finals

[paco]

whats so funny? didnt you take heat ML in game 1?

Ask Bobby the moderator about ourvchat, he said I couldn't change it.

[Albert Pujols]

im not a machine...why didn't you eliminate them albert?

I jus try get good pitch to hit, nah try do too much, put a good swing on it.

[suicidekings]

A sportsbooks goal isnt to see how high they can hang a line to attract stupid bettors. Its to hang a line that will bring in the most revenue. If the books believed the Heat would lose the series hanging a line of -130 would be much much much more profitable

Yes and No. Remember, the books already had a position on this series ever since they released their first Futures lines for teams to win the ECF and NBA Finals. As one of the most heavily bet teams in the NBA I would be shocked if they didn't have fairly substantial amounts of money in Heat futures bets before releasing the series line. The -190 was a good way of reducing their exposure and balancing out all those +money futures.

[iceminers26]

I'm on Bulls for the series and tonight's game all though big is just step one of two for the Bulls to open the series, next game is the big one, if they don't hold home court the win tonight means jack shit.

[paco]

Lol, square

[forloveofthegame]

LOL its so funny how many people think the Bulls have a chance.

Everyone thought the Heat coming together was just a bunch of talent and always forgot that Wade and James are veterans in the league surrounded by even older veterans. These two are different animals in the playoffs evidenced by the last 7 years of their careers and what they have accomplished in the playoffs.

Derrick Rose is 22 years old. He's done nothing. Noah has done nothing. Boozer has made a WCF once. Deng has done nothing. Bogans nothing. The Bulls bench has accomplished nothing. Thibbideou is the only guy that has experience on the Bulls and now they are suddenly gonna win a title because people want to be taken back to when Chicago was the golden city of basketball?

Derrick Rose is not Michael Jordan and he has no Scotty Pippens or Rodman's on his teams last time I checked.

[forloveofthegame]

Chicago is simply a better team than Miami, they are 4-0 against them this year after this game... there isn't 1 reason why anyone should expect Miami to win the series unless Chicago plays like garbage which they won't.

[Shifty107]

How would they lose the homecourt edge if they lost game 2?

They would be 1-1 with 5 games left and home court advantage.

I can't believe people actually take you seriously on this forum.

Your kidding right bro.

I appreciate your enthusiasm as I am a die hard Bulls fan, but this statement lowers ur cribility immensely.

[GunShard]

If the Bulls shut out the Heat in 4 games, which is less likely. Then this thread will look very bad.

[migz]

How would they lose the homecourt edge if they lost game 2?

They would be 1-1 with 5 games left and home court advantage.

I can't believe people actually take you seriously on this forum.

LMAO, fail. Even fans know how homecourt advantage works.
Why are you even in this forum?

[tofuman]

everyone should stop gambling regardless

[suicidekings]

LMAO, fail. Even fans know how homecourt advantage works.
Why are you even in this forum?

@CHI - @CHI - @MIA - @MIA - @CHI - @MIA - @CHI

He's saying a split in the first two leaves 5 games, and 3 of them in Miami, so the series is effectively reduced to a 5 game series where MIA would have 3 home games... Same logic when it's 2-2 and there's a 3 game series.

[politicin]

No you fail at critical thinking so i will give you some constructive criticism that applies to all aspects of business. The books goal is to overload the side they think will loose by luring in more money to the side the books assume will make them profit the most. In your example as it being the biggest public beating since singapore you clearly believe that -200 is a square line. If this is indeed a square line and a public side; then vegas wud be incompetant to hang a line of -200 if its the square line and the public perception. They would lure in more bettors with a smaller line. More betors = more profit for the book. Im not saying i agree with the line but that dosent mean the book hung it high on purpose. They hung it high cause it was the correct line.

A sportsbooks goal isnt to see how high they can hang a line to attract stupid bettors. Its to hang a line that will bring in the most revenue. If the books believed the Heat would lose the series hanging a line of -130 would be much much much more profitable

Actually a sportsbooks goal is to attract even action as to collect rake and simply house the bets. If they can abuse an idiot public bettor by offering them a price that shows no value and still get the action on it (at a 55 pct or so rate on the side that poses least value) they're doing their job. The hype has allowed this and anybody taking Heat -200 for the series has brain damage. I'm not going to teach you anymore or debate with you as the way you argue only 1 angle of a multi angled operation proves your amateur take on betting games. Take care buddy.

[todd73nj]

Omar Ashik played a good game.

Yeah, OK. Because the Bulls won, everyone is gonna pile on with the I told you so's about Ashit. 9 mins. 2 rebounds. If it wasn't for Omer's heroics, Miami would have won. The guy is absolutely nothing special and will never be a good NBA player. I have no idea what you guys are watching/smoking.

Omer (and thats how its spelled by the way) Asik?

Are you kidding??

If you wanted to give someone credit - how about Rose, or Noah or Deng or TAJ GIBSON if you want to pick a huge bench impact game.

Fwiw, I have no position in the series, Im not a fan of either team, and had nothing on game one.

Speaking of nothing, Asik is NOTHING but a 9th or 10th man. He could be interchanged with any other 10th man and there would be no change to the Bulls game.

Is he better than Nazr Mohammed (OKC), Mareese Speights (Phil), Shawnee Williams (NYK), DuJuan Blair (SA)? Just a few of the 9th/10th men in playoff team rotations

He def is NOT better than the last 3, and the only way I would take him over Nazr would be if I had a really veteran team, otherwise Id take Nazr.

Too make a comment like that, you must be a Bulls fan. That being said - Im just curious - where do you think think the minutes would have come from had Boozer and Noah not been hurt for half the season each? Sure Scalabrine and James Johnson would have lost the 100 mins they each played for the year. And maybe, maybe you could have taken 100 from Gibson? But the 1200 mins needed for the 40 games that Boozer and Noah would have needed would have come from Asik and Kurt Thomas.

Omer Asik.

[politicin]

Laughably horrible post. Asik is a very solid big man and would start center on the Heat. Stop posting.

[Smoke]

[politicin]

[todd73nj]

Laughably horrible post. Asik is a very solid big man and would start center on the Heat. Stop posting.

As would about 40-50 other players.

Asik is an big dope.

If he is as good as you say why didnt he avg more than 14 mins with Boozer and Noah out?

Why? Because he is a stiff. He is a deplorably bad FT shooter, which makes him a liability in any close game. He has no range what so ever. He cant stay on the floor - avgs 2 PFs in 12 mins per game. He has no range to pull an opponents big from the paint.

Maybe when you say solid you mean that he weighs like 270? Good point.

[Jive]

Chicago is a better team, with homecourt advantage, and at plus money. I can't see why anyone would take the Heat to win the series, other than the Stern angle. That doesn't mean Miami might not win (it certainly wouldn't be a shock), but from a gambling perspective taking the Heat seems unwise.

[Bradyd]

If you guys think about it, which I know is very hard in this forum, the op was pretty much dead on the money right now. He said the Heat would lose game 1, and he said people would make stupid comments afterward... Although I wouldn't call the Bulls sh*t, and I don't think Miami will underestimate them again..

[sweetjones55]

I saw Heat -105 last night on Bookmaker. Today on Pinnacle the Heat are +120 and on Bookmaker they are +115. Big money coming in on Chicago.

[youngbutgood]

stern wants heat in finals

Yeah but Stern can't do shit cause Obama will rape choke him if he tries anything.

[$Burm$]

@CHI - @CHI - @MIA - @MIA - @CHI - @MIA - @CHI

He's saying a split in the first two leaves 5 games, and 3 of them in Miami, so the series is effectively reduced to a 5 game series where MIA would have 3 home games... Same logic when it's 2-2 and there's a 3 game series.

I think you misinterpreted the post. Politicin thinks that even if the Heat win the next game, the Bulls will still have home court advantage. Migz was pointing out to him that that wouldn't be correct, the Heat would obviously have the home court edge. You were saying the same thing as Migz, just directed the at the wrong poster. Politicin likes to rip on everyone that they don't know anything about sports or gambling yet he is totally lost...

[politicin]

Yes, I'm totally lost, yet every single sharp capper is on Chicago this series and understands the -190 line was to exploit the public like you who overvalue Mia. I'll let you maintain your SBR rep, I'll cash the tickets. Bye.

[$Burm$]

Yes, I'm totally lost, yet every single sharp capper is on Chicago this series and understands the -190 line was to exploit the public like you who overvalue Mia. I'll let you maintain your SBR rep, I'll cash the tickets. Bye.

I don't have a rep on here, nor do I care. All you seem to do on this site is try and start crap with other posters. You attack this thread and then accuse me of being a terrible gambler like your some kind of legend. I sent you a challenge to see how good you really are and you have yet to accept it. Maybe you are very good, but you don't post ne plays so how is anyone supposed to know?

[suicidekings]

I think you misinterpreted the post. Politicin thinks that even if the Heat win the next game, the Bulls will still have home court advantage. Migz was pointing out to him that that wouldn't be correct, the Heat would obviously have the home court edge. You were saying the same thing as Migz, just directed the at the wrong poster. Politicin likes to rip on everyone that they don't know anything about sports or gambling yet he is totally lost...

Late night posting gets the better of me again...

[reppin_the_847]

Sorry brotha, the Bulls may have a bunch of no-names with a couple exceptions (D. Rose, Boozer, etc.), but they are the superior team with better depth & coaching.

The best part will be how so many will come in here and make stupid comments after the heat most likely lose game 1. Bulls are so shit its not even funny. They were life and death to win the first two rounds. People talk too much about the reg season but its usually the reverse in the playoffs.

Heat in 6.

[Gtawatson]

heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6 heat in 6

[politicin]

LOL @ a team winning in 5 games being "life and death"

anybody who takes you seriously needs to swan dive off a bridge

[Double Bogey]

Bottom line, you can't fix size and depth mid series. Unless Lebrick and wade have red bull feed intravenously throughout the game, they are in trouble. They looked gassed in the 2nd half

[Tallcash21]

Hi guys....ill let my post throughout this thread stand til game 5 and the Heat prove anything different. Til then YES Asik would start for the Heat. I started a thread saying Taj and Omer would be the 4th and 5th best players on the Heat....any arguments now? Cuz Omer would start and Taj would most definately be 6th man......Bulls have way too many advantages in this series and the one big advantage the Heat have (Lebron and Wade) will be neutralized enough for the Bulls to easily take the series. Good luck

[d2bets]

As would about 40-50 other players.

Asik is an big dope.

If he is as good as you say why didnt he avg more than 14 mins with Boozer and Noah out?

Why? Because he is a stiff. He is a deplorably bad FT shooter, which makes him a liability in any close game. He has no range what so ever. He cant stay on the floor - avgs 2 PFs in 12 mins per game. He has no range to pull an opponents big from the paint.

Maybe when you say solid you mean that he weighs like 270? Good point.

Asik would be a starter and the 4th best player on the Heat. If he's 9th or 10th on the Bulls then I guess that only speaks to the Bulls tremendous depth. Is he a deplorably bad FT shooter? Yeah, so is Shaq, and Dwight Howard.

He was quite heavily sought after in trades at the deadline, but the Bulls didn't want to part with him. Don't forget also as far as his development, he is a ROOKIE. If you think Asik is a worthless stiff, you are just not very NBA astute.