Phillies overrated?

**dlunc3** · 05-23-11, 07:32 PM

your argument was that they were overrated though, not whether or not they will win the east

**BRAVES1985** · 05-23-11, 07:38 PM

lol i was just fukin around because back then they only played 5 games against winning teams

**dlunc3** · 05-27-11, 02:26 PM

here's a fun stat... the Phills have given up the least amount of runs in all of baseball through 50 games since 1968... not a bad start to the yr

**letsgo** · 05-27-11, 03:12 PM

Also, their last 20 games have been against teams with winning records.

**BRAVES1985** · 05-27-11, 04:03 PM

they have allowed 2 fewer runs then the braves and the braves have played 1 more game?

and braves have fewer earned runs then the phils

braves are still leading the league in era

**BRAVES1985** · 05-27-11, 04:06 PM

thru 50 games

phils have allowed 163 runs

braves have allowed 163 runs

they are dead even after the 50 game mark

**Thehusker** · 05-27-11, 04:11 PM

Mets win today but by runs @ + 1.5

**dlunc3** · 05-27-11, 04:36 PM

leading the league in era is basically just saying that the braves make to many errors... But you are correct, the Braves are also tied with the least amount of runs scored after 50 games since 1968... we'll check in again at the 75 game mark and see how we are looking... either way, both staffs have been brilliant

**dlunc3** · 05-27-11, 04:36 PM

how is that hitting stat you were throwing around looking these days?

**BRAVES1985** · 05-27-11, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

leading the league in era is basically just saying that the braves make to many errors...

wtf?

phils are 2nd in era does that mean they make the second most errors?

you make no sense

**BRAVES1985** · 06-04-11, 10:35 PM

pirates

huge dogs the last 2 nights

**t-wizzle** · 06-04-11, 10:46 PM

Bro you know the pirates beat the phillies every year at pnc right?

**BRAVES1985** · 06-04-11, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Bro you know the pirates beat the phillies every year at pnc right?

ya that's y i bet them as massive dogs agaisnt the phils its easy money y else would i bet the pirates over the phils?

**dlunc3** · 06-04-11, 11:02 PM

bc kendrick is a bum... and bc the phills bats are in another one of their early season slumps

**captrobey** · 06-04-11, 11:04 PM

well their offense is again non-existent

**drfunkmaster** · 06-04-11, 11:10 PM

phillies cant be trusted.. I hate them.. i hope they rot.. Well i dont hope.. They better rot !!!

**Intuitive_Edge** · 06-04-11, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by captrobey

well their offense is again non-existent

Hardly a surprise

**dherd** · 06-04-11, 11:31 PM

a little early for that wait til august and see where they are.

**mr.inpak** · 06-05-11, 01:28 AM

think the phillies are over rated however they will still represent the national league in the world series the reason is parity there is no real great team this year in baseball

**chinoloco212** · 06-05-11, 01:32 AM

there pitching is def NOT overrated

**Shack** · 06-05-11, 01:33 AM

They are a great team and if the bats are alive in the playoffs they will be hard to handle. Cliff Lee seems to be a big game pitcher lately and can dominate in the playoffs. We will see how it unfolds this year.

**BRAVES1985** · 06-09-11, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

lol on paper the braves starting rotation has better numbers so far and ya oswalt missed a couple starts so did jurrjens whats your point

Originally posted by dlunc3

And did you really compare jurrjens to oswalt???? Hahahaha

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

jurrjens is a stud do you watch baseball? jurrjens 3-0 1.52 era avg just under 8.0 ip per start

Originally posted by stevenash

Skewed 3-0 record. He beat a weak Padre lineup that's softer than Carvel ice cream getting eight runs of support, he beat a soft Mets lineup in is first start. You make him out to be the second coming of Jim Palmer. Ivan Nova can beat those very same lineups with the same numbers your Jurrjens put up. Mets and Padres? Please. See me when he beats a real lineup with more pop than the Newark Bears. Jurrjens is Not a stud. Jurrjens is a 13-10 pitcher, with a 3.50 earned run average, and about .130 WHIP ratio. Slightly better than mediocre. Oswalt averages 17 wins a season for a decade, won back to back 20 games, won 19 games another year, all with crappy Houston teams before they were pretty good. Get real, Jurrjens is to Oswalt is like Jorge Posada is to Johnny Bench.

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

i never said jurrjens = oswalt jurrjens is 25 with alot of potential

has only given up more than 2 er in 1 start this season

**dlunc3** · 06-09-11, 09:20 PM

and lance berkman has more rbi, better batting avg and the same amount of home runs as albert puhols through 2 months... i guess he is better then him

**dlunc3** · 06-09-11, 09:23 PM

and oswalt has only given up more then 2 er twice this yr.. and this past time when he gave up 4, two of them were basically errors bc utley and valdez screwed up two easy dp balls..

and the great part is that he isnt even having a great season

who do I want in a big time playoff game pitching... oswalt or jurrjens?? enough said.... (not that jurrjens will have the chance)

**BRAVES1985** · 06-09-11, 09:38 PM

when did i say he was better?

its just funny how you and others say jurrjens isnt in the same league as your fab 4

and lee isnt really fooling anyone this year ever since he got fukin raped in the ws he hasn't been the same

**dlunc3** · 06-09-11, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

when did i say he was better?

its just funny how you and others say jurrjens isnt in the same league as your fab 4

and lee isnt really fooling anyone this year ever since he got fukin raped in the ws he hasn't been the same

Lee really isnt known to be a great regular season pitcher (tho a 3.62 era and 100 Ks isnt too shabby... better then your two top dogs hudson and lowe).. he was brought here bc he is a big game pitcher, maybe the best in baseball.. the regular season is basically an extended preseason for this team.. much like the miami heat this yr

**BRAVES1985** · 06-09-11, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Lee really isnt known to be a great regular season pitcher (tho a 3.62 era and 100 Ks isnt too shabby... better then your two top dogs hudson and lowe).. he was brought here bc he is a big game pitcher, maybe the best in baseball.. the regular season is basically an extended preseason for this team.. much like the miami heat this yr

hudson and lowe are not 1 2 in the rotation they are 3-4

jurrjens and hanson are 1-2

and the heat are goin down

**dlunc3** · 06-09-11, 09:52 PM

no, hudson and lowe are your top two when it comes down to it... they would be 3-4 in a playoff series????

**BrigadierPudding** · 06-09-11, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

no, hudson and lowe are your top two when it comes down to it... they would be 3-4 in a playoff series????

Yes. Hudson was the 3 in the playoffs last year.

Are you really this stupid?

**dlunc3** · 06-09-11, 10:02 PM

And Lowe was 1... are you really this stupid?

**BRAVES1985** · 06-09-11, 10:02 PM

now we are talking about playoffs??? we got 4 months to go buddy settle down

lowe is an average pitcher most nights, you never know what your gonna get from him like lastnight he was throwing a no hitter in the 7th inning then all the sudden he falls apart after 75 pitches

but he is a pretty good big game pitcher as well he won all 3 clinching games for the sox and 1 was on 2 days rest

and last year down the stretch went 5-0 in september

hudson is not the same as last year braves need him to get back

**BrigadierPudding** · 06-09-11, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

And Lowe was 1... are you really this stupid?

Lowe was the 1 because he was 5-0 with a 1.17 ERA in September.

Ignorant moron.

**dlunc3** · 06-09-11, 10:14 PM

playoffs are all that matters though.. rotation order in the regular season really doesnt mean a whole lot.. and yea, lowe is a big game pitcher (other then when up against hamels

)

**dlunc3** · 06-09-11, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by BrigadierPudding

Lowe was the 1 because he was 5-0 with a 1.17 ERA in September.

Ignorant moron.

Like I said, he wasnt 3 or 4... can you read?

**BrigadierPudding** · 06-09-11, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Like I said, he wasnt 3 or 4... can you read?

So Lowe could post a 7 ERA down the stretch and the Braves would still start him 1 or 2 in any potential playoff series because he's a name pitcher?

Complete nonsense.

They will start whoever is pitching the best at the time. Right now that's Jurrjens and Hanson and I don't see why that will change. They are younger and better than Lowe and Hudson.