Carmelo to Knicks: deal done

[jsmithj88]

Stupid move on his part, if he ever wanted to make it to the Finals. Lakers are two years away from being irrelevant. Suns-washed up Portland-Best player Roy will never be the same Houston-No Yao Ming No playoffs Utah-Sux without Coach Sloan. Spurs-Duncan is getting really old and gas is about empty in the tank The only real threat is Dallas and Oklahoma City, both teams the Nuggets are more than capable of beating if the met in the Western conference Finals down the road.

exactly, denver had a good mix of vets and young players
they coulda been in the mix for a while
now hes in a situation where his team wont be real contenders for at least 2 years

[mikeanite]

Denver Post reporting

so we got 4 super teams in the east and everyone else sucks

[charlesbroccoli]

melo's gonna do great stuff for the knicks

[twelvejewelz]

What is the actual date that he starts playing for the knicks?

[JACK MATZ]

Melo will come alive in NY!!
We will fill in the blanks by next year.
Love the trade!

[frostno98]

so we got 4 super teams in the east and everyone else sucks

Celtics aren't really super, but them, bulls, heats, magics and now knicks can all beat each other down.

[senser]

can somebody explain transfers in the NBA?
Why do they switch a whole team when the Knicks only wanted Carmelo? And why do i read things abouth the twolves getting involved too?

I'm from europe and with football, it's just buying a player for money when he still has a contract. Or just signing them when they are a free player.

Can't you just buy a player for money in the NBA?

[odtw524]

the nba is getting rediculous...Soon enough there will be only like 4 teams worth watching...

[maja]

with carmello this team will live again

[ICE-BLOOD]

melo !!!!

knicks are tough again

[jjgold]

Melo in 7 years advanced past 1st round of playoffs one time with some pretty good players on his teams'
'
case closed

[slacker00]

Good move for the Knicks, they were going nowhere with their former lineup.

The formula for success in the NBA is to get the superstars because role players are a dime a dozen. Knicks are figuring it out.

[TheJewBear]

My $15 to win $525 +3500 on the Knicks to win the East before the trade is looking much sweeter now!!!

[k13]

Knicks losing in the first round anyway.

I'll take them for +7500 right now.

Sorry Knick fans. A lock to lose now.

[k13]

Melo is a loser. Cuse not included. Once you get paid big, ***** don't give a shit.

[fakeandthedrive]

over rated

[teecee]

exactly, denver had a good mix of vets and young players
they coulda been in the mix for a while
now hes in a situation where his team wont be real contenders for at least 2 years

with carmelo, you could argue that the knicks, are equal to what denver was. i don't believe the nuggets were going to contend for the title. all things being equal, teamwise. carmelo gets to go to n.y.c, and make more money (i'm assuming he'll get more money, although i haven't paid alot of attention to the negotiations). he has to go to n.y.

[unusialsusp5]

denver doesn't need billups. they have ty lawson rotting on bench and must start to use him .

[Muggy]

About time this got done, no more Melo-drama to deal with on TV.

[jackmyhoggoff]

GOOD another HEAD case out of the NEWS !! Like to have seen him and ballhogg KOBE PLAY IN THE SAME Y !! Don't know who would do the most tear shedding .

[tripleblack1705]

people still care about basketball these days?

[teecee]

can somebody explain transfers in the NBA?
Why do they switch a whole team when the Knicks only wanted Carmelo? And why do i read things abouth the twolves getting involved too?

I'm from europe and with football, it's just buying a player for money when he still has a contract. Or just signing them when they are a free player.

Can't you just buy a player for money in the NBA?

that is a very good question. i hope someone can share an answer.

[Jeffito11]

Couldn't care less, which reminds me of a random pet peeve. People always say "I could care less." This would imply they do care somewhat. Everyone says this without thinking, so if you're one of them, think about it.

[wtt0315]

knicks got worse. Carmelo is one of most overrated players in nba. They gave up to much

[kirbypuckett]

Great move for NY..Nuggets will be on a downward spiral for next few years..

[demens]

can somebody explain transfers in the NBA?
Why do they switch a whole team when the Knicks only wanted Carmelo? And why do i read things abouth the twolves getting involved too?

I'm from europe and with football, it's just buying a player for money when he still has a contract. Or just signing them when they are a free player.

Can't you just buy a player for money in the NBA?

This is too complex to explain in detail and it would go over your head anyway. If you want to know something specific go ahead and ask.

There are multiple reasons other players were in the trade besides Melo. 1 is the CBA, which is the collective bargaining agreement. Its a set of rules by which the NBA functions. 1 of the points of the CBA is that every team has a salary cap, meaning there is a maximum amount of money (player salaries) that they can spend. Its not like Chelsea or Real that can spend as much as they want even if they are losing money at the end of the season. Now NBA teams can go over the cap, thats why its called a soft cap and most teams are in fact over the cap, but that has its disadvantages like a tax (double whatever you are over the tax threshold) or not being able to sign free agents for anything other then minimum deals. Another rule is that when a trade is made both teams must be trade equal (within a certain %) salaries. This is why a lot of the times other players must be involved in the deal to make things work salary wise unless your team is under the cap enough to cover the salary in question. There are ways around that as well. Minnesota was involved for exactly that reason.

The other reason for more players to be involved is what Denver wants. They were losing its star player so they wanted whatever team that gets him to pay a steep price. This price including taking on other Denver players with bad contacts. Denver had a lot of say in this and they basically said if you want Melo you have to take all this other trash with him or you dont get him at all. Thats why you hear people say that this trade saved them money. It didn't quite put them under the salary cap, but it did put them under the luxury tax which i mentioned earlier.

That about covers the basics. Dont feel bad if you dont get anyone of this, most Americans that think they are basketball fans dont know anything about it either. NBA trades are mostly about money then they are about talent or making your team better.

[scumfrog]

Carmelo played so bad till the start of the NBA All Star game, i don't know he can find a place in such a Knicks team.

[colin fergueson]

Yeah, there is such a thing as cap space in the NBA that the new CBA wont change which makes it pretty much impossible for the Knicks to add a 3rd star. And They now have no more assets they could try and trade for one either so you can pretty much forget about that.

but you said he wasnt going to the knicks

lmao

[demens]

How about you go find that quote lying douche bag.

[Glitch]

i WATCHED melo score 33 points in the third quarter of some game about two years ago...it was amazing. i thought for sure it was the record but apparently it just tied the record of points in a quarter by 1 player.

[senser]

@demens:

thanks for the explination! I enjoy basketball, and put some money on games. But the hole inside on the transfers and so on is a little bit complicated sometimes. Thanks for the basics on the transfers, it is much appreciated!!

[colin fergueson]

How about you go find that quote lying douche bag.

The whole shpeel about Melo knowing winning unlike Lebron and you think he chooses Knicks?

Knicks being his place of choice has jack shit to do with winning. Chicago is winning. And i'm no Bulls fan.

No one can offer anything close to the ORIGINAL deal Nets offered yet that wasn't enough to get it done, so desperate Nets decide to outbid themselves! AND DENVER STILL ASKING FOR MORE. Pull the offer and be done with it. The Nuggs threatened to trade him to the Knicks For what??? Eddie Curry and some late 1st round pick NY manages to scrape off someone, ohh yeah and Anothony Magic Randolph, who can forget about that stud. ******* LET THEM THEN!

Both Nets and Nuggs are a bunch of clowns.

Sure i've seen him. That package still doesn't come close. Denver wants draft picks, Denver wants salary cap, they are not even willing to take on Troy Murphys expiring deal, they want pure cap (trade exception). Thats were all this silliness about 3rd and 4th teams comes from. And Denver wants to get rid one or more its bad contracts along with Melo.

You're just picking out guys you think the Knicks can spare and putting them in the package. But no, the package is not enough because it is not what Denver has been asking for.

Yeah, pass up on 60M before a lock to go "win a ring" with Amare and DAntoni. Gotta love those knowledgeable Nix fans. So of the most knowledgeable fanbases in the league.

is this enough or u want more?

[colin fergueson]

demens I kno alot more bout the situation then you do. Ill bet you anything he doesnt sign an extension with the nets.Anything you think he is losing he will make up for it in endorsments. Melo from my old neighborhood in red hook brooklyn. I run his tournament we do for the kids every summer and go to the games when they play the Knicks. You dont kno what your talking bout

Yeah, as a Knick fan you know for a fact it wont be the Nets when every other person knows that its 99% between Knicks and Nets. Hmm, i wonder which team you DO think he will end up on for a fact....as a Knick fan of course.

I see your trade proposal isn't too far off what Mr. Sheridan has posted, been reading him much lately?

lmao

[demens]

Thanks for adding to my ignore list. I kind of forget about it the last few days.

[tony_come]

Big deal about melo

knicks will not be a contender