not much of a pen
not much of a staff
pretty nice lineup
220+ million?
moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#2
13 years in a row in the playoffs -- 4 World Championships during that time ...
I'm sorry -- who's done better over the past decade-and-a-half?
Exactly ...
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#3
Originally posted by moneyline
13 years in a row in the playoffs -- 4 World Championships during that time ...
I'm sorry -- who's done better over the past decade-and-a-half?
Exactly ...
well, they weren't spending 200+ million back then and they weren't the highest paid team by such a wide margin back then. they spent much less, they won more.
exactly
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Deuce
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
01-12-08
29843
#4
Tigers are in the same boat.
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#5
coke
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AgainstAllOdds
SBR Hall of Famer
02-24-08
6053
#6
hey mofo....how did tennesee do in the tourney?
Originally posted by SBR_John
AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#7
Originally posted by AgainstAllOdds
hey mofo....how did tennesee do in the tourney?
They play in the finals tonight. wish us luck, slugger.
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Doc JS
SBR Hall of Famer
09-15-06
6885
#8
Originally posted by moneyline
13 years in a row in the playoffs -- 4 World Championships during that time ...
I'm sorry -- who's done better over the past decade-and-a-half?
Exactly ...
Interesting thing about statistics...you can pretty much make them say whatever point supports your position. Like this...
The Yankees have spent over 1 billion in salaries, that's with a B, since they won their last World Series.
So, while all the stats that you posted are true, it's also true that in the last half decade or so they've spent a ton of money and haven't got much to show for it. As King George says, "If we don't win the World Series, the year is a failure". So, by their own owners standards, they Yankees have been an abject failure the last half decade.
Doc
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SBR Lou
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08-02-07
37863
#9
They are winning 100 or more this year, I don't care what anybody says.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#10
How much money have the Cubs spent since their last World Series victory? If it has averaged $10 million a year, they seem to be in a worse boat than the Yankees ...
26 World Championships and the losers continue to hate them ... even when they are down (and by down, I mean just making the playoffs) they are still the focal point of conversation.
As you were, son ...
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rjt721
SBR Hall of Famer
02-06-07
7929
#11
You'd think they could spend some coin on a capable reliever not named Joba or Rivera. Latroy Hawkins? Nope. Farnsworthless? Try again. Bruney? Almost, but not quite. Ohlendorf and Traber? Umm, no.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#12
Yeah, most teams have at LEAST three lights out relievers ...
(actually, they don't)
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rjt721
SBR Hall of Famer
02-06-07
7929
#13
Originally posted by moneyline
Yeah, most teams have at LEAST three lights out relievers ...
(actually, they don't)
Of course not. However, most teams have more depth in the pen than the Yanks. Their alternatives after Mo and Joba (who are great, no doubt about it) are pathetic. With their resources, they would have been wise to sign a guy like Scott Linebrink in the offseason.
They better hope Bruney learns how to throw strikes.
BTW, moving Joba into the rotation this season, given the state of the rest of the pen, would be a huge mistake. With that said, I hope it happens.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#14
Somebody will step up, whether it be Bruney or Sanchez or Hawkins ... not too worried ... as being a Yankee fan means you NEVER have to be worried during the regular season. Since we got ARod, however, it means always having to be worried during October.
ARod will be starring in the sequel, Cooler II, starting (you guessed it) this October ...
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Arnold
SBR Wise Guy
12-17-07
906
#15
Originally posted by mofome
not much of a pen
not much of a staff
pretty nice lineup
220+ million?
Last season they didn't win the AL East. This year I really hope they don't make the playoffs.
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rjt721
SBR Hall of Famer
02-06-07
7929
#16
Originally posted by moneyline
Somebody will step up, whether it be Bruney or Sanchez or Hawkins ... not too worried
Yeah, I think Bruney's their best chance. I always liked his potential. He struggles with his command, but I thought Torre gave up on him too early last season. Definitely has the arm to be a capable 7th inning guy.
I feel pretty confident in saying it won't be Hawkins that steps up. Not a good signing. He's a complete gas can.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#17
Eventually it will happen. Then again, eventually even happened for the Red Sox winning a World Series.
(it did take well over 80 years, though, so maybe don't hold your breath)
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rjt721
SBR Hall of Famer
02-06-07
7929
#18
Fortunately, I only had to wait about 20 of those 80 years. 2 in the last 4 years is more than enough for me.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#19
"2 in the last 4 years is more than enough for me"
Spoken like a true Red Sox fan ... 4 in 5 years from 96 to 2000 was one short of enough for me!
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rjt721
SBR Hall of Famer
02-06-07
7929
#20
Well, 0 in the last 8 years for the Yanks is exactly enough for me.
See ya in the ALCS (don't think either will make it, but one can hope).
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#21
An 8 year drought does seem like an eternity to Yankee fans. Quite common for all other teams, however ...
The Wild Card has all but guaranteed there will be few dynasties from this point forward. The 96-00 Yankees will be the last for MANY years, actually ...
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donjuan
SBR MVP
08-29-07
3993
#22
not much of a pen
not much of a staff
pretty nice lineup
Now I know it's a small sample size, but based on performances so far, it's the hitting that is letting the Yankees down, not the pitching.
Team OPS+: 91
Team ERA+: 106
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EaglesPhan36
SBR Aristocracy
12-06-06
71662
#23
I don't understand why everyone freaks out every year about this. Yanks are slow starters routinely now. They haven't been much of a threat until Memorial Day. It's not like they can't do anything right like El Tigres.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#24
Originally posted by donjuan
Now I know it's a small sample size, but based on performances so far, it's the hitting that is letting the Yankees down, not the pitching.
Team OPS+: 91
Team ERA+: 106
not to mention their lack of team speed.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#25
Originally posted by moneyline
Yeah, most teams have at LEAST three lights out relievers ...
(actually, they don't)
ah, you wouldn't expect the yanks to have more than the others given the fact that they spend much more than 95% of the league
(actually, you would)
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pokernut9999
SBR Posting Legend
07-25-07
12757
#26
Originally posted by crazyl
They are winning 100 or more this year, I don't care what anybody says.
I will book that bet.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#27
Really ...
If spending more than the rest of the league means you should have more (and better) of everything, what happened to the Mets in the National League year after year.
(oh, that's right ... you can't buy championships -- or playoff appearances for that matter)
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#28
Originally posted by moneyline
If spending more than the rest of the league means you should have more (and better) of everything, what happened to the Mets in the National League year after year.
(oh, that's right ... you can't buy championships -- or playoff appearances for that matter)
funds and brains are two different things. the yanks only have have former. its comical if you are suggesting that spending the most is not an advantage. im sure you're bright, but maybe not for a person?
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#29
The Yankees have no brains? if only the other teams could be so brainless, maybe more of them would have 10 Championships ... or even 5 ... as opposed to 26???
Yes, MoFo, your intelligence is shining through like a beacon of light on a cold winter's day.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#30
Originally posted by moneyline
The Yankees have no brains? if only the other teams could be so brainless, maybe more of them would have 10 Championships ... or even 5 ... as opposed to 26???
Yes, MoFo, your intelligence is shining through like a beacon of light on a cold winter's day.
ah, thats another intelligent statement. The yanks of 1941 have a lot to do with the yanks of today. Im guessing they have the same management? You know, the yankees are a baseball team, they don't actually have a 'brain'. My implication is that they are not currently run by competent minds. One would figure they'd have a little better staff as they treated the rest of the mlb as their far system, but maybe not? Perhaps we could all make an effort to speak more slowly with you. so, how is your dad doing? i believe he posts here under the name 'we eat fish'? congratulate him on the boston win for me.
btw, the sun doesn't shine on cold days or on cloudy days? Im just asking because in the world i live in, your statement doesn't actually make sense. Ive been cold plenty of times with the sun out in the winter. Not exactly like running into santa clause or a unicorn but hey, an IQ over 18 isn't for everyone.
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donjuan
SBR MVP
08-29-07
3993
#31
not to mention their lack of team speed.
Speed is vastly overrated in baseball.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#32
Yes, Hughes, Chamberlain and Kennedy -- what idiots in the front office allowed those players to stay on the team. And they dare try to fill the 2B hole with garbage like Cano ...
MoFo, perhaps in your world when you pay $500 for a hooker, you assume she's better than a girl you can get for free. I assure you, money doesn't make it better, little one. But I understand you think it does.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#33
Originally posted by donjuan
Speed is vastly overrated in baseball.
perhaps, but its not better not to have it than it is to have it.
the ability to make something happen plays a part in many games, look at KC over the yanks today. im not sure what basis you have for your opinion, but there are many factors besides just SB numbers that have an effect on a baseball game.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#34
Originally posted by moneyline
Yes, Hughes, Chamberlain and Kennedy -- what idiots in the front office allowed those players to stay on the team. And they dare try to fill the 2B hole with garbage like Cano ...
MoFo, perhaps in your world when you pay $500 for a hooker, you assume she's better than a girl you can get for free. I assure you, money doesn't make it better, little one. But I understand you think it does.
omg, they actually have some decent young players for once? amazing! cashman for GM of the decade!
its cool man, sports isn't your thing, thats ok with me.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#35
Originally posted by mofome
there are many factors besides just SB numbers that have an effect on a baseball game.
Now, that is profound. What's next? Are you going to explain that there are many factors besides turnovers that have an effect on a basketball game?