Convince me I can't make 100k/year off sports betting

[Doug]

Isn't there a way to get some steady income though? I mean, instead of win winning 10 million and then your career is over, isn't there a way to get some long-term winnings?


There is no doubt I think I can at least hit 60%

You could become the best linesman in the business, I'm sure that pays 100k+ ( like you wanted)...

Just improve your beard team, and you'll make plenty with a steady stream of 60% winners !

Better yet become an offshore bookie, You'll be able to take some huge bets that way...and since you are so good....move the lines to attract action the way you want it.....but then we'd get the "ssk lean" after awhile !

[ssk13809]

You could become the best linesman in the business, I'm sure that pays 100k+ ( like you wanted)...

Just improve your beard team, and you'll make plenty with a steady stream of 60% winners !

Better yet become an offshore bookie, You'll be able to take some huge bets that way...and since you are so good....move the lines to attract action the way you want it.....but then we'd get the "ssk lean" after awhile !

Yeah but I'm not trying to make this a career or something. Limit it to 15-30min/day and use it as a side-income (no matter how great it might be).

Whatever, I'll give my self a bigger sample size and time before I really go big on it.

[Doug]

I don't get 15 minutes a day only, yet having various teams.

I told you how to make millions ( even billions, in theory) by just going 1200-800 with $1,000 to start with.

Why would you even need a steady income stream after winning 10 million $ ?

You wanted 100k a year to start with, right ?

1% interest on that 10M you won from the books covers that ....and you'll always still have that 10M you won before y'all got cut off....but a gambler could always beard for more, if 60% is so easy !

[ssk13809]

I don't get 15 minutes a day only, yet having various teams.

I told you how to make millions ( even billions, in theory) by just going 1200-800 with $1,000 to start with.

Why would you even need a steady income stream after winning 10 million $ ?

You wanted 100k a year to start with, right ?

1% interest on that 10M you won from the books covers that ....and you'll always still have that 10M you won before y'all got cut off....but a gambler could always beard for more, if 60% is so easy !

Well, 1st of all, 2000 plays? You have to be pretty selective to hit rates that high.

For example, I only play an average of maybe 2-3 ATS NFL Plays per week. Overall, I have a lot of other plays (5-10/week), but those are all teasers/parlays/MLs, not the 70% ATS. Sure they also help increase profits on top of the 70% ATS, but the point is, I'm not getting to 2,000 ATS plays anytime soon.

NBA I play more often. More like 10-15 ATS plays a week, but I bet less on them, and they don't hit as high as my NFL plays.


So really, 2,000 plays, would take a WHILE to get to.

[Doug]

Yeah but I'm not trying to make this a career or something. Limit it to 15-30min/day and use it as a side-income (no matter how great it might be).

Whatever, I'll give my self a bigger sample size and time before I really go big on it.

Then you are essentially admitting that you can't hit 60% ( let alone the 70% you started at), or even 57-58 %.

You'd win a lot at 57% using the proper Kelly percentage !

55% is a realistic goal ....and few achieve that number !

What is your career record ? If it is anywhere near 600-400 ( against -110 lines) then you are a talent.

[ssk13809]

Also, what do you guys think of my Ferrari Plan


Money Needed: 50k

A nice Ferrari will cost 200-300k. I will need to make a 10% down payment, and I have easily enough for that. But still will have to pay around 5k per month for it. And then add insurance and maintenance, it will probably be around 8k/month. Yes Ferrari's cost a lot to maintain, that's 100k per year.

So the question really is, can I legitimately own a Ferrari with 50k? I make a down payment of 20k, that leaves me with 30k to use in SportsBooks.

With

- 70% ATS
- 90% Locks
- Guaranteed Profits in Teasers
- More profits from MLs

And

- Account in Matchbook (Betting Exchange)
- Multiple Accounts in Different Books (5 Dimes, Bookmaker, Greek, and BetJamaica)


So with 30k to bet, with those rates and money in multiple books, I should make a very big return on that 30k. Just look at here I have gone 120+% in 2 months, with all those losing parlays. 8k shouldn't be much, and after that 30k grows, it will be even easier.




So what do you guys think? Can I own a nice Ferrari with just 50k? And this is actually a serious question so please answer appropriately.
Are there any potential problems with this Ferrari Plan? If so, what?

[ssk13809]

Then you are essentially admitting that you can't hit 60% ( let alone the 70% you started at), or even 57-58 %.

You'd win a lot at 57% using the proper Kelly percentage !

55% is a realistic goal ....and few achieve that number !

What is your career record ? If it is anywhere near 600-400 ( against -110 lines) then you are a talent.

Um not really. Even if I was hitting 90% I wouldn't want to make this a career. It's always good to have another side income. Having "gambling" as your 1 and only income just sounds wrong and would never do that.

Career record? I don't know. I never really wrote it down. But I'd estimate 65-70%. Not that many games. Not even close. Maybe 200 total plays ever. Haven't been betting that long.

[Doug]

Well, 1st of all, 2000 plays? You have to be pretty selective to hit rates that high.

For example, I only play an average of maybe 2-3 ATS NFL Plays per week. Overall, I have a lot of other plays (5-10/week), but those are all teasers/parlays/MLs, not the 70% ATS. Sure they also help increase profits on top of the 70% ATS, but the point is, I'm not getting to 2,000 ATS plays anytime soon.

NBA I play more often. More like 10-15 ATS plays a week, but I bet less on them, and they don't hit as high as my NFL plays.


So really, 2,000 plays, would take a WHILE to get to.

Fezz said a play a day.....can you do 365 plays a year ( and hit 60% ).....then we are the 550 Billion in just over 5 years, as the math says !

How about starting a thread tracking your plays here on SBR, then ?

[ssk13809]

Fezz said a play a day.....can you do 365 plays a year ( and hit 60% ).....then we are the 550 Billion in just over 5 years, as the math says !

How about starting a thread tracking your plays here on SBR, then ?

I only do NFL and NBA. Not making a play a day lol. I might hit maybe 200 ATS plays a year. But total plays (counting everything else) should be maybe 300-400. And I don't do NBA and NFL at the same time. So once NFL is over I do NBA.


I posted all my NFL plays this year in the SBR NFL Forum. Hit 70% ATS for the Season.


Will start my NBA thread tomorrow.

[Doug]

Um not really. Even if I was hitting 90% I wouldn't want to make this a career. It's always good to have another side income. Having "gambling" as your 1 and only income just sounds wrong and would never do that.

Career record? I don't know. I never really wrote it down. But I'd estimate 65-70%. Not that many games. Not even close. Maybe 200 total plays ever. Haven't been betting that long.

200 career plays is a bit short....even if you went 120-80 over that sample ( at regular -110 lines).

go 600-400 or 1200-800 and have it documented....then you might at least be able to go tout !

GL

Doug

[ssk13809]

200 career plays is a bit short....even if you went 120-80 over that sample ( at regular -110 lines).

go 600-400 or 1200-800 and have it documented....then you might at least be able to go tout !

GL

Doug

Once again, I'm not trying to "tout" and take up time of mine. I don't think you get it. "15-30" minutes per day. I don't know what touting requires, but it's probably more than that.

[Doug]

I only do NFL and NBA. Not making a play a day lol. I might hit maybe 200 ATS plays a year. But total plays (counting everything else) should be maybe 300-400. And I don't do NBA and NFL at the same time. So once NFL is over I do NBA.


I posted all my NFL plays this year in the SBR NFL Forum. Hit 70% ATS for the Season.


Will start my NBA thread tomorrow.

Take 5 years ( 1825 days, 1826 if you want to anal about a leap year , LOL !)

So your 200 plays a year for 5 year , hit 60% ( not your 70%) , start at $1,000, bet 10% of BR on each play. We are at 600-400 five years later !

Where's that math guy that said 550 billion was correct ( close, enough) after 2k plays ? I think after 1,000 plays that $1,000 would be pretty large at 10%, 60% , yaddayaddayadda !

[FourLengthsClear]

Take 5 years ( 1825 days, 1826 if you want to anal about a leap year , LOL !)

So your 200 plays a year for 5 year , hit 60% ( not your 70%) , start at $1,000, bet 10% of BR on each play. We are at 600-400 five years later !

Where's that math guy that said 550 billion was correct ( close, enough) after 2k plays ? I think after 1,000 plays that $1,000 would be pretty large at 10%, 60% , yaddayaddayadda !

1000 plays at 60% on -110 lines with a starting bankroll of $1000 =
23.44 million dollars

[ssk13809]

1000 plays at 60% on -110 lines with a starting bankroll of $1000 =
23.44 million dollars

And 1,000 plays = about 5 years.


But there is NO WAY I'm going to deposit 1k, and just watch it grow without ever withdrawing anything. And even worse, just leaving even 500k in "Sportsbook" and trusting everything goes right with that much cash is a not a smart idea. And leaving 10s of millions in "Sportsbook" is borderline insanity. I mean, it's not a BANK after all.


But still a lot of money is to be made. The most I could ever trust in a Sportsbook is...50k to be honest. So with that as a cap, the formulas above will be affected a lot. I don't think I could even reach a million with a 50k cap in 5 years.

[Doc JS]

Um not really. Even if I was hitting 90% I wouldn't want to make this a career. It's always good to have another side income. Having "gambling" as your 1 and only income just sounds wrong and would never do that.

Career record? I don't know. I never really wrote it down. But I'd estimate 65-70%. Not that many games. Not even close. Maybe 200 total plays ever. Haven't been betting that long.

Nuff said...

You mean to tell me with all your "teams" nobody thought about writing down your record???

Doc

[ssk13809]

Nuff said...

You mean to tell me with all your "teams" nobody thought about writing down your record???

Doc

Thats why I joined SBR. So I can get things "documented".

Why write it down? I was winning, making profits every week. That was enough.

[Doug]

Once again, I'm not trying to "tout" and take up time of mine. I don't think you get it. "15-30" minutes per day. I don't know what touting requires, but it's probably more than that.

I don't get you ! You want to make 100k a year and work 15 minutes a day, so that's like $1,600 hourly or something ?

You have over 1,000 posts here, so I take you seriously ( somewhat)....

I'd love to see your level of success doing that , in previous years....I'd like to see your tax returns for the last 5 years....see if you ever got close to 100k ?

I never made anything close to $1,600 an hour in my life, as a salary, as a steady wage , more like about $21/ hour honestly !

[Doug]

1000 plays at 60% on -110 lines with a starting bankroll of $1000 =
23.44 million dollars

TY,

[FourLengthsClear]

I don't get you ! You want to make 100k a year and work 15 minutes a day, so that's like $1,600 hourly or something ?

You have over 1,000 posts here, so I take you seriously ( somewhat)....

I'd love to see your level of success doing that , in previous years....I'd like to see your tax returns for the last 5 years....see if you ever got close to 100k ?

I never made anything close to $1,600 an hour in my life, as a salary, as a steady wage , more like about $21/ hour honestly !

How many bettors do you know that can hit at 60%?
How many of those spend 15-20 mins a day in their handicapping/modeling?
How many inconsistencies, untruths have you spotted in the OP's story so far?

[ssk13809]

I don't get you ! You want to make 100k a year and work 15 minutes a day, so that's like $1,600 hourly or something ?

You have over 1,000 posts here, so I take you seriously ( somewhat)....

I'd love to see your level of success doing that , in previous years....I'd like to see your tax returns for the last 5 years....see if you ever got close to 100k ?

I never made anything close to $1,600 an hour in my life, as a salary, as a steady wage , more like about $21/ hour honestly !

Okay 1st of all, you have to realize I don't do all the work. That's what I have my teams for. And 2nd, maybe 15 is a little under exaggeration, it's more like 30min/day, 1 hour on others.

[ssk13809]

How many bettors do you know that can hit at 60%?
How many of those spend 15-20 mins a day in their handicapping/modeling?
How many inconsistencies, untruths have you spotted in the OP's story so far?

At the end of the day, I win my bets. And that's all that matters.

[Kindred]

Wait did you just say I'm losing money if I'm hitting 70%?

You would be leaving plenty of +EV bets on the table attention seeking whore..which is throwing away

[Doug]

How many bettors do you know that can hit at 60%?
How many of those spend 15-20 mins a day in their handicapping/modeling?
How many inconsistencies, untruths have you spotted in the OP's story so far?

I'm obviously with you, and your math skills are better than mine , too !

Hitting a solid 60% is at the outside , outer limits, twilight zone level of possible over a 1,000 picks and going 600-400.

The math geek guy said 20 Million plus for it....sounds right to me !

60% over long term is big money !

Just go 600-400 , you Hotshots ? That's 20 + Million , eh ?

CHEESE AND RICE, THIS IS EASY !

[sharpcat]

And as posted in my NFL Thread

My man play today is

2 Team Teaser
Packers +4
Jets +11

And after that, many small hedge bets, on Packers +4. So basically, if Packers cover +4, I win big. If they don't, I lose big. This was suggested by my Playoffs Team.


I've talked to Rodgers already. He said they will cover and win. Besides, they haven't lost by more than 3 ALL YEAR WITH Aaron Rodgers. And now they are playing their BEST. And are giving their best too (NFC Championship game). So its a great play suggested by my Playoffs Team.

You should fire your "Teaser team" these are -EV teasers

[emoney]

Will you guys please stop feeding this troll?

[MartinBlank]

Thats why I joined SBR. So I can get things "documented".

Why write it down? I was winning, making profits every week. That was enough.

Well, pretty tough to document a record when you edit your posts.

It makes us think you are full of shit.

Try making a thread containing your picks and NOT editing. For any reason. Period.

[ssk13809]

Well, pretty tough to document a record when you edit your posts.

It makes us think you are full of shit.

Try making a thread containing your picks and NOT editing. For any reason. Period.

Show me 1 play I EDITED after the Game Started


Right? If you can't do this then you have nothing on me. Each play I made had been posted and counted. And none were edited after the game started. You once again have misread. I edited a post, but that was adding plays to the same post. But none of the games in that particular post had actually started.

So everything is 100% legit. And once again, if there is a case of what you are saying, then I either

a) Specifically quoted and stated that I'm editing this post ot include this
b) Or there was another post with my same exact plays, and i edited one of them, maybe just adding a play, but not editing the plays themselves.



Either way, 100% legit


Come on you sound like a jealous loser. "But but...you must have edited them!"

When I didn't lol.

[ssk13809]

You should fire your "Teaser team" these are -EV teasers

What? Made a lot of cash on that teaser.

[ssk13809]

And as posted in my NFL Thread

My man play today is

2 Team Teaser
Packers +4
Jets +11

And after that, many small hedge bets, on Packers +4. So basically, if Packers cover +4, I win big. If they don't, I lose big. This was suggested by my Playoffs Team.


I've talked to Rodgers already. He said they will cover and win. Besides, they haven't lost by more than 3 ALL YEAR WITH Aaron Rodgers. And now they are playing their BEST. And are giving their best too (NFC Championship game). So its a great play suggested by my Playoffs Team.

A nice day today. But this is the usual for my Playoff Team.

[MartinBlank]

Show me 1 play I EDITED after the Game Started


Right? If you can't do this then you have nothing on me. Each play I made had been posted and counted. And none were edited after the game started. You once again have misread. I edited a post, but that was adding plays to the same post. But none of the games in that particular post had actually started.

So everything is 100% legit. And once again, if there is a case of what you are saying, then I either

a) Specifically quoted and stated that I'm editing this post ot include this
b) Or there was another post with my same exact plays, and i edited one of them, maybe just adding a play, but not editing the plays themselves.



Either way, 100% legit


Come on you sound like a jealous loser. "But but...you must have edited them!"

When I didn't lol.

Jealous of what exactly? What have you demonstrated that someone would be jealous about?

Your math skills?

What proof do you have that you didn't edit the posts AFTER your selection graded?

I have no idea who you are, but this "I can hit 70%" shit gets drummed up every single week on here. You think your post is original?

[ssk13809]

Jealous of what exactly? What have you demonstrated that someone would be jealous about?

Your math skills?

What proof do you have that you didn't edit the posts AFTER your selection graded?

I have no idea who you are, but this "I can hit 70%" shit gets drummed up every single week on here. You think your post is original?

You are the one making the accusation, so the burden of proof is on you not me. My proof is all my plays posted. Show me 1 where did anything wrong or anything that made it not legitimate. You won't find anything. I have been very careful about playing by the rules (even when I don't want to) and keep everything 100% legit.


Yeah I see those 70% threads all the time here too. I laugh. What's the difference between me and them? Because I also made a thread like that when I 1st got here, then I went into the NFL season and ACTUALLY hit 70%. That is the difference. What else? Well I'm going to back up my talk again into the NBA season. That is the difference.

[hitthew8room]

im confused.

if you hit 70% for the NFL season you must be up a ton right?
how much do you normally risk per bet?
why arent u an SBR pro?
why would u make this a thread on an online forum?
how much do you pay your "Teams"?

[MartinBlank]

You are the one making the accusation, so the burden of proof is on you not me. My proof is all my plays posted. Show me 1 where did anything wrong or anything that made it not legitimate. You won't find anything. I have been very careful about playing by the rules (even when I don't want to) and keep everything 100% legit.


Yeah I see those 70% threads all the time here too. I laugh. What's the difference between me and them? Because I also made a thread like that when I 1st got here, then I went into the NFL season and ACTUALLY hit 70%. That is the difference. What else? Well I'm going to back up my talk again into the NBA season. That is the difference.

Actually-----I have no burden. I think you're full of shit, and my evidence is your edited posts.

[ssk13809]

Actually-----I have no burden. I think you're full of shit, and my evidence is your edited posts.

I haven't edited ONE post that contained a play before the game started.
So what are you saying? I can't edit any posts at all? Period? Even this one?

[ssk13809]

im confused.

if you hit 70% for the NFL season you must be up a ton right?
how much do you normally risk per bet?
why arent u an SBR pro?
why would u make this a thread on an online forum?
how much do you pay your "Teams"?

To answer ur questions

Yes
Good amount
I am a pro
To make sure my plan is legit
$0. We work together. Our income is our plays. So to each is their own