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  • Doug
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-05
    • 6324

    #1
    Do you guys like Bodog ?
    I re-upped there after years of inactivity. CS is good, website easy to use, but I never get a good line there. I put in a withdrawal for 90% of balance, just can't use the money there.

    They are a bit NT unfriendly, requiring 5X rollover for NT and less for other methods.

    How are they about withdrawing, then re-upping for 10% bonus ? That would seem the only way to make them playable.

    Lines are barely worth checking when you have books like Pinny, Trojan, Mansion, Skybook, SIA, No Juice, Hollywood, Canbet, etc.

    Only use I see is for playing both sides of a game, and losing the Bodog side, which they must approve of.
  • DonS
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-11-05
    • 6

    #2
    BoDog

    They have a great method (maybe to great) to credit and debit your account, almost immediately for no charge and thier is an automatic cash bonus added for re-up's .
    Negitive is that they don't have totals on all games (seems like just TV games) and during the football system they don't move the line, but instead make it +115 or -115 and then their system or proceedure will not let you buy points.
    Excellent customer service from Vancover Canada.
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    • pjesnik24
      Restricted User
      • 11-01-05
      • 1286

      #3
      they suck
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      • Doug
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-10-05
        • 6324

        #4
        And of course the extra-late lines, they'd be useful with early lines, could compete with CRIS and Oly, but it looks like $550 limits also. They just don't have much utility for me.
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        • Dark Horse
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-14-05
          • 13764

          #5
          Recommended everywhere for one reason: an industry high 40% referral bonus.

          Lines up very late, terrible prices, great layout.

          Given the emphasis on good looks, trendiness, and the smart referral strategy, I would guess that founder Calvin Ayre is an extremely smart business man.
          Last edited by Dark Horse; 02-26-06, 04:58 PM.
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          • imgv94
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-16-05
            • 17192

            #6
            For squares. If I hear someone uses bodog mostly there are square..
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            • bigboydan
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-10-05
              • 55420

              #7
              Originally posted by Doug
              And of course the extra-late lines, they'd be useful with early lines, could compete with CRIS and Oly, but it looks like $550 limits also. They just don't have much utility for me.

              it's a good out for smaller bettors though.although your right, this book is just not for myself.
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              • bookie
                SBR MVP
                • 08-10-05
                • 2112

                #8
                How are they about withdrawing, then re-upping for 10% bonus ?
                No book that's on the ball is going to give a bonus to someone who is a net winner with them. This only makes sense. I'd be worried if I heard about one that did.
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                • Doug
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 6324

                  #9
                  Sounds like they might. 10% bonus ( 5X) roll on crappy lines is much inferior to low vig. I think if you waited a few weeks you'd be fine. The bonus is automatic, rollover met, seems if I deposited right back I'd get 10%, but owe 5X roll ?

                  They paid me already, took maybe a half hour, I'm impressed with that.

                  I'd reccomend them to a new small player.

                  I don't plan on using them, left a few $$$ behind, double it up a few times or lose it.

                  I'll look at their real lines ( onsite) now and then to see where they are at.

                  They do a lot of things well.
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                  • newb411breaker19
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 08-21-05
                    • 421

                    #10
                    i don't like how bodog doesn't seem willing to take any risk. and for some reason calvin ayre just bugs me
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                    • imgv94
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-16-05
                      • 17192

                      #11
                      Calvin bugs me also..
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                      • isetcap
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-16-05
                        • 4006

                        #12
                        Pussybook.

                        They're the AOL of sportsbooks.
                        If you're a weakass player then Bodog is your favorite book.
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                        • rm18
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-20-05
                          • 22291

                          #13
                          I get alot of good halftime line there fading the square bettors, also I do pretty well with their props evem though they use a 40 cent line.
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                          • Winston Smith
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-26-05
                            • 752

                            #14
                            Originally posted by newb411breaker19
                            i don't like how bodog doesn't seem willing to take any risk. and for some reason calvin ayre just bugs me


                            That's the thing, it's an ingenious business model. Why take the risk with above-average winners when you have an infinite supply of novices who buy into what you sell and don't mind ignoring what no pro would tolerate?

                            If you can sell a fancy package to somebody who will lose, why bother trying to sell what's inside to winners?


                            (Note: These are generalizations. I'm not trying to say that everyone who uses BoDog loses. Just that their target audience is novice bettors.)
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                            • BuddyBear
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 7233

                              #15
                              It's very weak....and I am literally shocked to see that it has an A rating on SBR.

                              I think SBR needs some serious reevaluation of how they rate books b/c BoDog is not an A book. I mean....you have a book who doensn't put out their lines in advance, bad money lines, not every game has a total either...how on earth can this be considered at the same level of a book like betjm???

                              There are positives...you may find a good number if you are a dog player, free Neteller payouts, reduced juice on lopsided games, bonuses...

                              Even so...BoDog is a B book at best till they get some balls and post their lines up faster.
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                              • JoshW
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 3431

                                #16
                                I like Bodog because they allow everyone to bet online. They will take more over the phone at times. They offer a bonus to everyone, squares and sharps a like. They pay quickly without fee for even very large amounts.

                                I don't like dual lines, but rather have that than not be able to bet. I don't like how late they put up lines or the lack of variety.

                                I do support them personally because the way they book allows a place for sharps or advantage players to continue to earn. That in comparison to Nine and to some extent VIP which just toss players they know will beat them long term.

                                Their poker room is also increasingly becoming one of the best places to play with many new players joining.

                                Give me Bodog over Bet365, VIP, and Nine. I would like more but will take what I can get. I do think Bowmans and BetJamaica are better than all of the "recreational" books in the discussion.
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                                • imgv94
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-16-05
                                  • 17192

                                  #17
                                  They give me dual lines.
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                                  • applepicks
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 10-07-05
                                    • 271

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                    It's very weak....and I am literally shocked to see that it has an A rating on SBR.

                                    I think SBR needs some serious reevaluation of how they rate books b/c BoDog is not an A book. I mean....you have a book who doensn't put out their lines in advance, bad money lines, not every game has a total either...how on earth can this be considered at the same level of a book like betjm???

                                    There are positives...you may find a good number if you are a dog player, free Neteller payouts, reduced juice on lopsided games, bonuses...

                                    Even so...BoDog is a B book at best till they get some balls and post their lines up faster.
                                    Solid post buddy. I use them when I'm lookin for a good dog #. Other than that I won't use them. I keep a very low balance there and only use it as needed. CS isn't bad and they pay out very easily but with the late #'s and limits, along with the no totals on all games I'd put them at a B+.
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                                    • imgv94
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-16-05
                                      • 17192

                                      #19
                                      imgv94's ratings of bodog:

                                      CS= A+

                                      Software/Ease Of Use=A+

                                      Lines=F-

                                      Overall B

                                      There's always a better line somewhere else!!
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                                      • Dark Horse
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-14-05
                                        • 13764

                                        #20
                                        Bodog is smart. They won't get much action from sharps, which is why they can afford to give away a 40% referral bonus. That is their real edge, because every tout with a website advertises bodog. This free advertising -from those in the know!- taps directly into a huge target market. Add good looks and financial reliability, and presto!

                                        The formula is so successful that tv advertising was added. It is all about reputation for bodog. They won't kick out sharps, but they will never become too attractive for winning players. They target the far larger audience of squares (who naturally believe the touts that advertise bodog).

                                        Great business model!
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                                        • mrmookie
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 02-22-06
                                          • 39

                                          #21
                                          Bodog does great Marketing, and has gotten customer sign ups from this work. I closed my account with BODOG and will never return after I played Blackjack in their casino and watched their dealer have a six up, turn over a 6, and hit 5 aces in a row to beat me with a 17. Let me know the next time you see 5 of the same cards come out of a blackjack deck in a row, However it's not only BODOG, but online Sportsbook that run casino's have a very unfair advantage against it's blackjack players. Haven't played blackjack online after this happened, that was enough to keep me away forever. Glad to have left BODOG and won't return.
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                                          • imgv94
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-16-05
                                            • 17192

                                            #22
                                            Illusion doesn't bet with BODOG..

                                            Illusion is a sharp.
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                                            • Illusion
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 08-09-05
                                              • 25166

                                              #23
                                              I mainly use my locals Pinnacle, Cris, and Olympic.
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                                              • imgv94
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-16-05
                                                • 17192

                                                #24
                                                I mainly use Pinnacle,Carib,and 5 Dimes..
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                                                • slacker00
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-06-05
                                                  • 12262

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by imgv94
                                                  imgv94's ratings of bodog:

                                                  CS= A+

                                                  Software/Ease Of Use=A+

                                                  Lines=F-

                                                  Overall B

                                                  There's always a better line somewhere else!!
                                                  I agree 100%. I'll also add:
                                                  Ease/quickness of payout: A+
                                                  Overnight lines: F

                                                  I'm beginning to absolutely hate books that don't deal overnight lines.
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                                                  • ourbet
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-23-05
                                                    • 464

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                    It's very weak....and I am literally shocked to see that it has an A rating on SBR.

                                                    I think SBR needs some serious reevaluation of how they rate books b/c BoDog is not an A book. I mean....you have a book who doensn't put out their lines in advance, bad money lines, not every game has a total either...how on earth can this be considered at the same level of a book like betjm???

                                                    There are positives...you may find a good number if you are a dog player, free Neteller payouts, reduced juice on lopsided games, bonuses...

                                                    Even so...BoDog is a B book at best till they get some balls and post their lines up faster.
                                                    Here! Here!! I couldn’t have written this better or more succinctly. Can you reevaluate some time soon please SBR?
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                                                    • imgv94
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-16-05
                                                      • 17192

                                                      #27
                                                      I agree. Bodog is not an A rated book..

                                                      B+ is best rating they should get,I guess SBR John and
                                                      Calvin are friends.
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                                                      • isetcap
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-16-05
                                                        • 4006

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by slacker00
                                                        I agree 100%. I'll also add:
                                                        Ease/quickness of payout: A+
                                                        Overnight lines: F

                                                        I'm beginning to absolutely hate books that don't deal overnight lines.

                                                        Come on guys, lines aren't that important...



                                                        I've heard the bodog apologists and they always argue that bodog caters to the "recreational" bettor so they shouldn't receive negative ratings. I disagree wholeheartedly. It makes a sham of the rating system when they receive an 'A'. It's comparable to reviewing ISPs and giving AOL a high rating knowing that their product is inferior but reasoning that it's easier for idiots to use. Bodog is inferior at its foundation and because of that, the very highest rating it should be able to attain is a 'B+' if that.
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                                                        • mad
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-31-05
                                                          • 1278

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by isetcap
                                                          Pussybook.
                                                          Sounds interesting. How exactly does that work? You win, you get pussy? Sounds like my kinda book. What's the juice like?
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                                                          • Illusion
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 08-09-05
                                                            • 25166

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mad
                                                            Sounds interesting. How exactly does that work? You win, you get pussy?
                                                            They would get all of my action then.
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                                                            • imgv94
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-16-05
                                                              • 17192

                                                              #31
                                                              Pussybook great idea..

                                                              I want to bet a Pussy Parlay

                                                              EVEN a pussy teaser.
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                                                              • Dead Money
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-30-05
                                                                • 706

                                                                #32
                                                                The only good thing about Bodog is ........................................ ........................................ ........................................ ................The Bodog Girls.

                                                                I don't understand why so many people bet there. Like everyone said, late lines, bad odds, ridiculous vig.

                                                                The dual line thing is absolutley unaceptable. I wouldn't even tie up a penny of my cash in hopes to get a better moneyline on a dog.

                                                                I'll give my business to Pinny or 5Dimes.
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                                                                • Illusion
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 08-09-05
                                                                  • 25166

                                                                  #33
                                                                  VIP also has some good looking girls.
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                                                                  • pags11
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 08-18-05
                                                                    • 12264

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I would say the only reason I have a bodog account at this point is because they give kick-ass referral bonuses (40% cash bonus up to $200)...for a newbie gambler these guys are alright, but as you graduate up as a gambler you grow out of bodog...occasionally you can find a dog a full point higher at -105 or even money, but that's not too often...
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                                                                    • imgv94
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-16-05
                                                                      • 17192

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Pinny and 5 dimes have balls!! They handle bets no one else will!! They
                                                                      offer bets no one else offers. You can't go wrong with these 2 books.


                                                                      Don't You GUYS agree?
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