To post (picks) or not to post

[Red_Sux]

calling people freeloaders on a public forum just seem stupid. this is not a partnership in some gambling venture. you can just simply ignore those posts that you think are idiotic. if you have nothing nice to say, just keep browsing.

[mofome]

post'em if you aint scurd

[Arnold]

you are funny, yeah I've never won anything I just bet to lose.. plus I've never seen anyone post a winning season either..

Jesus Christ your response was comical. GL with your plays

Then why do you ask? Why would I lie here? Don't I have anything else better to do in life? How much you want to bet that I'm winning? I will let you see a screenshot of my Pinnacle account. Just name your price. Lets see if you got balls or you just like to talk and put down players for no apparent reason. If you don't want to go that way, then stop saying things that you're not willing to be responsible for.

whats the incentive to brag about winning on a gambling forum?

I haven't bragged. You must have misread something.

Some posters like to help others so they post. Some people are selfish and keep everything to themselves. That's the only difference really.

I can't say my picks will help someone. I can't guarantee that I won't lose all of my next 500 picks. I don't know if I'm a winner or just lucky. I really don't know. Otherwise I wouldn't wake up tomorrow in the morning and go to work.

[diogee]

post'em if you aint scurd

I am scurd Mofo...

[WestsidePete]

calling people freeloaders on a public forum just seem stupid. this is not a partnership in some gambling venture. you can just simply ignore those posts that you think are idiotic. if you have nothing nice to say, just keep browsing.

Totally agree...

[Cee]

I can't say my picks will help someone. I can't guarantee that I won't lose all of my next 500 picks. I don't know if I'm a winner or just lucky. I really don't know. Otherwise I wouldn't wake up tomorrow in the morning and go to work.

Same here. No one can guarantee they will win. (except donjuan) But sometimes, ya gotta take a risk bud

[mofome]

I am scurd Mofo...

dio is always in.

[awhitejackson]

I thought this forum was to share insight, information, and knowledge so we all could perform better...am I wrong??

True...I have changed my opinions on games when looking at other's plays several times...this has done nothing but help me maximize winning possibilities...I have directly taken picks from Pete here, Mofome, Lville1, OLGS Slayer, Diogee, Cee and many others...Good insights on individual games are far more important than long term records...I'll take all the help I can get..

[OLGC_Slayer]

To me its a personal preference, neither of which should be criticized. I am just thankful there are some posters here who are usually right in their analysis about helping me make the final decision in some of my leans.

[diogee]

dio is always in.

Posting my plays is the best Money Management method I have yet to come up with

[WestsidePete]

The day I think I know everything is the day I become a total a hole...always something to learn from others....and that's not freeloading...

[Cee]

The day I think I know everything is the day I become a total a hole...always something to learn from others....and that's not freeloading...

In other words you would call yourself "donjuan"

[diogee]

Like AWJ said...there are several posters whom picks I have followed as well and will take all of the help that I can. These last couple of months have been all about learning how to cap games for me and tons of insight from others has helped me out a ton and I still have tons to learn.

[Arnold]

Same here. No one can guarantee they will win. (except donjuan) But sometimes, ya gotta take a risk bud

Would you trust someone who is not sure whether or not he will win? Donjuan I think has some mathematical calculation, that is proven statistically, that's why he can guarantee it.

[Cee]

Would you trust someone who is not sure whether or not he will win? Donjuan I think has some mathematical calculation, that is proven statistically, that's why he can guarantee it.

I don't follow people blindly often. But when i agree with certain cappers, i pull the trigger. I haven't seen winners from don, so I'm not sure on that part

[gizmo2431]

Interesting thread... I post picks only when I really feel strongly, I should more often so you guyz could just fade me at all times and bank. lol

Oh... and since I don't post all my plays, is it wrong to claim I've been losing cause it'd be too cliche to claim that I win.

[regularguy]

For me, another reason to post, that has not been mentioned much, is for the reality check. I appreciate reasoned criticism and advice. I have actually found there to be some very astute people hanging around this site. If someone points out a problem with one of my picks, and I see that their reasoning is valid, that's valuable to me. It's sort of a brainstorming thing.

Also, might sound corny, but I feel I it is good to contribute to the site, just for the sake of giving something back. As I see it, even if you post something that you think is genius, and the concensus turns out to be that you're out to lunch, well, at least you prompted the discussion. This would be a pretty useless site if everyone just sat around waiting for someone else to post something.

[WestsidePete]

In other words you would call yourself "donjuan"

No I'm Pete

[WestsidePete]

gizmo...I think I've said this before...but damn your avatar is bad ass!! holding my favorite beer...I also like don't mind criticism but not personal attacks...

[Cee]

No I'm Pete

[gizmo2431]

For me, another reason to post, that has not been mentioned much, is for the reality check. I appreciate reasoned criticism and advice. I have actually found there to be some very astute people hanging around this site. If someone points out a problem with one of my picks, and I see that their reasoning is valid, that's valuable to me. It's sort of a brainstorming thing.

Also, might sound corny, but I feel I it is good to contribute to the site, just for the sake of giving something back. As I see it, even if you post something that you think is genius, and the concensus turns out to be that you're out to lunch, well, at least you prompted the discussion. This would be a pretty useless site if everyone just sat around waiting for someone else to post something.

I'd say that's a pretty solid summary for the average poster around here.

[gizmo2431]

gizmo...I think I've said this before...but damn your avatar is bad ass!! holding my favorite beer...I also like don't mind criticism but not personal attacks...

haha YES! I'll be drinkin down a few of those during the games tomorrow!

[donjuan]

No one can guarantee they will win. (except donjuan)

You've obviously misread something along the way. I have never said my bets are guaranteed winners or even close to that. I would never say something so foolish as I'm well aware of the fact that edges in sports betting aren't all that big.

calling people freeloaders on a public forum just seem stupid. this is not a partnership in some gambling venture.

Disregarding even the morons for a minute, how about the lurkers?

The day I think I know everything is the day I become a total a hole...always something to learn from others....and that's not freeloading...

Sorry but I have nothing to learn about sports betting that helps me become more optimal from the vast majority of posters here. That said there are quite a few posters here whom I do learn from on a daily basis.

[donjuan]

You are excellent on theory..but I'm sure there are many games you do not bet on where showing an example of your theory could really help...I'm one who actually enjoys sharing with others...just feel there's plenty to go around for everybody...

What do you want as an example?

I wasn't aware answering questions with another question is acceptable.

You can browse the forum sure, never said u couldn't

So what would you call someone who merely browses the forum and uses the plays of someone else for profit?

[imgv94]

I hate when mods move posts from a thread and make it look like I started this thread. Thats real mickey mouse...

FYI, I did NOT start this thread.

[SBR Lou]

I only read the first few replies but, whoever wants to post plays should post them, and whoever doesn't shouldn't. I think the harmony is broken when some of the same few people who never post plays continually criticize others plays, be it their reasoning or whatever.

It's almost like watching someone throw a baseball. You can sit and pick apart their delivery, velocity, anything under the sun. At some point though, it becomes a situation where you better be prepared to throw the ball yourself.

[imgv94]

Would you trust someone who is not sure whether or not he will win? Donjuan I think has some mathematical calculation, that is proven statistically, that's why he can guarantee it.

You've obviously misread something along the way. I have never said my bets are guaranteed winners or even close to that. I would never say something so foolish as I'm well aware of the fact that edges in sports betting aren't all that big.

Funny stuff there




ANYWAY

Three things that should be noted...

First, no one in this thread let alone this entire forum is, or will anytime soon move lines based on anything they post. Do you really think Vegas or Costa Rica is ever going to wait for some member here to post a play so they could move a line? Will never happen unless they garner a HUGE FOLLOWING and have showcased success for a long period..

Second, if you have no connections to inside information about games, or do NOT know a player or coach on a team than you are a public bettor. All of the information you are receiving is public knowledge that anyone could obtain.

Lastly, Whomever is sure that they are going to win (realistically is usually a rookie gambler) then you should be a multi millionare now. Books should be paying you for your consultations.

[imgv94]

I only read the first few replies but, whoever wants to post plays should post them, and whoever doesn't shouldn't. I think the harmony is broken when some of the same few people who never post plays continually criticize others plays, be it their reasoning or whatever.

It's almost like watching someone throw a baseball. You can sit and pick apart their delivery, velocity, anything under the sun. At some point though, it becomes a situation where you better be prepared to throw the ball yourself.

Obviously considering you haven't responded to post #34.. Solid post btw crazy

[donjuan]

Second, if you have no connections to inside information about games, or do NOT know a player or coach on a team than you are a public bettor. All of the information you are receiving is public knowledge that anyone could obtain.

What is your point? Lineshopping plus good models=$$$.

[donjuan]

First, no one in this thread let alone this entire forum is, or will anytime soon move lines based on anything they post. Do you really think Vegas or Costa Rica is ever going to wait for some member here to post a play so they could move a line? Will never happen unless they garner a HUGE FOLLOWING and have showcased success for a long period..

Ever bet openers on something like college football at Bookmaker? They move very quickly.

[imgv94]

Ever bet openers on something like college football at Bookmaker? They move very quickly.

Not because of what any "ONE" person is posting on a board unless your name is Dr.Bob.. But yes I've seen the line movement as I was there watching the lines ever week Sunday between 3:00-3:30pm pacific time..

Lines moved just as dramatically when the Tourney lines first came out. Winthrop opened +10, I tried to get down and it moved to +8.5 on the confirm screen. Other lines moved as well like Davidson and Portland St just to name a few.

[accuscoresucks]

FYI, 99% of the time I bet my plays before posting them here. Thus, the lines could move all they want afterwards.

[SBR Lou]

Well we need some "advantage" cappers posting, b/c we've sure got a bunch of "disadvantaged" posters constantly touting picks (e.g. pavy, crazy, bowlingreen, etc.) who pick winners about every blue moon. Get some talented cappers in here mix it up a lil.

Well, I don't know that I "constantly tout picks". I'll make a thread every once in a while, but for the most part I just discuss games with others and participate in Illusion's threads.

I do post several picks or leans threads during the NFL season though. If you think I'm winning once in a blue moon now, I'm sure glad you weren't registered back then! The year didn't end well to say the least. By the way, instead of giving report cards on others, I'd suggest focusing on tomorrows card. Plenty games to choose from.

[donjuan]

Not because of what any "ONE" person is posting on a board unless your name is Dr.Bob.. But yes I've seen the line movement as I was there watching the lines ever week Sunday between 3:00-3:30pm pacific time..

Lines moved just as dramatically when the Tourney lines first came out. Winthrop opened +10, I tried to get down and it moved to +8.5 on the confirm screen. Other lines moved as well like Davidson and Portland St just to name a few.

Exactly, because very few people worth their salt post their picks on a free message board. And those that do learn pretty quickly not to. The ones that continue doing so are benevolent to a fault.

[imgv94]

Exactly, because very few people worth their salt post their picks on a free message board. And those that do learn pretty quickly not to. The ones that continue doing so are benevolent to a fault.

Can't argue with that donjuan..