should marijuana be legalized throughout the united states?

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  • montyh
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-20-09
    • 165

    #176
    Yes it should be, its like the catholic church trying to keep people from using condoms. Pointless dont you think?
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    • 8ArIvd5
      SBR MVP
      • 04-24-10
      • 3175

      #177
      Here's a thought: How much worse for you would store-bought marijuana become after companies lace it with chemicals that make it more addicting and more effective like they do with tobacco? I know that when I went from marlboro's to self-rolled smokes I feel a lot better. Would it be a similar situation?
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      • JohnGalt2341
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-31-09
        • 9138

        #178
        Regardless of whether Pot is addictive or not... I want someone that believes in Freedom to give me 1 good reason why it shouldn't be legalized.
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        • 8ArIvd5
          SBR MVP
          • 04-24-10
          • 3175

          #179
          Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
          Regardless of whether Pot is addictive or not... I want someone that believes in Freedom to give me 1 good reason why it shouldn't be legalized.
          Because our lawmakers should be focusing on our ****** up economy and health care system and education system and imperialist military and ....

          Do those count?
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82839

            #180
            Can you imagine pot being legal? You go to work in the morning and Bob comes in stoned to start the new project. Oh man this will be fun!!!
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            • BookiesBernanke
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-09-10
              • 849

              #181
              probably better than most of the workforce coming in on pyschedelic antidepressants
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              • jgilmartin
                SBR MVP
                • 03-31-09
                • 1119

                #182
                Originally posted by 8ArIvd5
                Because our lawmakers should be focusing on our ****** up economy and health care system and education system and imperialist military and ....

                Do those count?
                A 2008 study by Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron has estimated that legalizing drugs would inject $76.8 billion a year into the U.S. economy.
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82839

                  #183
                  Originally posted by jgilmartin
                  A 2008 study by Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron has estimated that legalizing drugs would inject $76.8 billion a year into the U.S. economy.
                  I'm not a Harvard economist but if they legalize sales of anti-aircraft missiles, tanks, howitzers, rocket propelled grenades and armor piercing bullets in the US for civilians the US economy would get a $100 billion or more boost a year.
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                  • DwightShrute
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-17-09
                    • 103425

                    #184
                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                    Can you imagine pot being legal? You go to work in the morning and Bob comes in stoned to start the new project. Oh man this will be fun!!!
                    what if he came in drunk?
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                    • bruceBRUCEbruce
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-20-09
                      • 2560

                      #185
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      I'm not a Harvard economist but if they legalize sales of anti-aircraft missiles, tanks, howitzers, rocket propelled grenades and armor piercing bullets in the US for civilians the US economy would get a $100 billion or more boost a year.
                      Clearly. Your arguments here are complete and total shit and full of logical fallacies. The above is a simple bad analogy. You're claiming that two situations (the legalization of marijuana and the legalization of the sale of military weaponry) are highly similar, when they aren't, at all.
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                      • chilidog
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-05-09
                        • 10305

                        #186
                        Originally posted by pavyracer

                        I'm not a Harvard economist but if they legalize sales of anti-aircraft missiles, tanks, howitzers, rocket propelled grenades and armor piercing bullets in the US for civilians the US economy would get a $100 billion or more boost a year.
                        The difference between your comparison and the topic at hand is that people are already consuming drugs on a pretty massive scale. People are not purchasing military-grade weapons.

                        Legalizing all substances would shift the flow of money from the underground black market into both government coffers and businesses.
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                        • jgilmartin
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-31-09
                          • 1119

                          #187
                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                          what is he came in drunk?
                          Exactly (assuming you made a typo, where "is" was intended to be "if"). There is legally nothing stopping people from living in a constant state of drunkenness. Very few people actually choose to live like this, however, because they are aware of the financial, social, and physical consequences of doing so. I believe this would remain true with other drugs as well, if legalized.
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                          • DwightShrute
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-17-09
                            • 103425

                            #188
                            Originally posted by jgilmartin
                            Exactly (assuming you made a typo, where "is" was intended to be "if"). There is legally nothing stopping people from living in a constant state of drunkenness. Very few people actually choose to live like this, however, because they are aware of the financial, social, and physical consequences of doing so. I believe this would remain true with other drugs as well, if legalized.
                            yes it was a typo and I corrected it. Thanks. I agree with you 100%.

                            The fact is: BOB would have come in stoned regardless if pot was legal or illegal. All I am saying is why does Bob have to sneak around to get pot but just simply walks into a store to buy a six pack?
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                            • D3 Mighty Ducks
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-17-09
                              • 11939

                              #189
                              Originally posted by makaveli66
                              I don't really smoke pot, but I see no problem with legalizing it.
                              Same here, I don't smoke it at all now that I'm in my early thirties but when I was in High School and College I know what the younger audience in here are talking about.

                              I'm not saying I'm against making it legal in North America (because I do live in Canada) but once they make marijuana legal it will be to easy to get and people will something thats illegal and is "bad" that pisses off the cops.
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                              • Hwood
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 11-27-10
                                • 34

                                #190
                                if everyone smoked marijuana the world would be a better place
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                                • bruceBRUCEbruce
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-20-09
                                  • 2560

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
                                  I'm not saying I'm against making it legal in North America (because I do live in Canada) but once they make marijuana legal it will be to easy to get
                                  you make an assumption that it's hard to get grass now-which it isn't, and never has been.

                                  next!
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                                  • Socrates
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-24-10
                                    • 923

                                    #192
                                    Only idiots want to keep this stupid herb criminilized.
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82839

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by chilidog
                                      The difference between your comparison and the topic at hand is that people are already consuming drugs on a pretty massive scale. People are not purchasing military-grade weapons.

                                      Legalizing all substances would shift the flow of money from the underground black market into both government coffers and businesses.
                                      But why shouldn't people be allowed to own military grade weapons if they are law abiding citizens and do not intend to cause harm to others?
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                                      • bruceBRUCEbruce
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-20-09
                                        • 2560

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                        But why shouldn't people be allowed to own military grade weapons if they are law abiding citizens and do not intend to cause harm to others?
                                        Now you're just coasting well off topic, in a lame attempt to draw a fallacious parallel along with a spurious similarity.

                                        I'd be more than willing to give you some lessons as to how to argue properly and how to avoid using logical fallacies in your arguments.

                                        If you continue to be obtusely ignorant in this thread, I will berate you further.
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                                        • RonPaul2008
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-08-07
                                          • 6741

                                          #195
                                          I have felt nauseous most of the day today. Some Cannabis would be good medicine about now!
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82839

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by bruceBRUCEbruce
                                            Now you're just coasting well off topic, in a lame attempt to draw a fallacious parallel along with a spurious similarity.

                                            I'd be more than willing to give you some lessons as to how to argue properly and how to avoid using logical fallacies in your arguments.

                                            If you continue to be obtusely ignorant in this thread, I will berate you further.
                                            Answer the question please. Smoking pot is a preference same as owing military-grade weapons. Why one should be legalized in favor of the other? Because both are illegal now but people smoke pot and own military grade weapons regardless of the laws.
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                                            • bruceBRUCEbruce
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-20-09
                                              • 2560

                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                              Answer the question please. Smoking pot is a preference same as owing military-grade weapons. Why one should be legalized in favor of the other? Because both are illegal now but people smoke pot and own military grade weapons regardless of the laws.
                                              Your premise is beyond merely flawed and I'm not even sure what "why should one be legalized in favor of the other" even means.

                                              Are you sure you're not puffing? Seems like there's a deficiency somewhere...
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                                              • pavyracer
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82839

                                                #198
                                                The point is some people today want pot to be legalized. Tomorrow some other group will want cocaine to be legalized. Then some other group will want men to have sex with other men naked in public places. There will always be a group that would like something that is illegal now to be legalized for their own reasons whether they are right or wrong.
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                                                • wtf
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 08-22-08
                                                  • 12983

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  The point is some people today want pot to be legalized. Tomorrow some other group will want cocaine to be legalized. Then some other group will want men to have sex with other men naked in public places. There will always be a group that would like something that is illegal now to be legalized for their own reasons whether they are right or wrong.
                                                  how did prohibition work out? thats right it didnt

                                                  your argument is beyond lame, weapons have only one use, to HURT OTHERS

                                                  consumption of a narcotic only fuks up YOURSELF

                                                  do you get it you fukin tard
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                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                    • 103425

                                                    #200
                                                    personally, I don't do drugs but maybe one day I will want to. Why should anyone care who smokes or drinks or eats what?
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                                                    • RonPaul2008
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-08-07
                                                      • 6741

                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by wtf
                                                      how did prohibition work out? thats right it didnt

                                                      your argument is beyond lame, weapons have only one use, to HURT OTHERS

                                                      consumption of a narcotic only fuks up YOURSELF

                                                      do you get it you fukin tard
                                                      Cannabis is not a narcotic.
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                                                      • montyh
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 08-20-09
                                                        • 165

                                                        #202
                                                        just get high who cares
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                                                        • pavyracer
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-12-07
                                                          • 82839

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by wtf
                                                          how did prohibition work out? thats right it didnt

                                                          your argument is beyond lame, weapons have only one use, to HURT OTHERS

                                                          consumption of a narcotic only fuks up YOURSELF

                                                          do you get it you fukin tard
                                                          Weapons are not intended to hurt others. Weapons actually save lives because if you come to my farm/house/property and you see a tank parked outside with a 50mm Browning machine gun and a 100mm cannon aiming at you you will turn around and run to save your life.
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                                                          • daneault23
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-08-09
                                                            • 3871

                                                            #204
                                                            Anyone know a good place to get a legit vaporizer, like the Volcano, but at a cheap price? I want something high quality that works well to make the most outta the weed I get. I figure I smoke enough of it, I mind as well get more THC rather than using a lil water pipe.
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                                                            • chilidog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 04-05-09
                                                              • 10305

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by pavyracer

                                                              Weapons are not intended to hurt others. Weapons actually save lives because if you come to my farm/house/property and you see a tank park outside with a 50mm Browning machine gun and a 100mm cannon aiming at you you will turn around and run to save your life.
                                                              Right. A weapon is not intended to hurt others? What is its' intended usage then? To make a peanut butter and jelly sandwitch?
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                                                              • JohnGalt2341
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-31-09
                                                                • 9138

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by 8ArIvd5
                                                                Because our lawmakers should be focusing on our ****** up economy and health care system and education system and imperialist military and .... Do those count?
                                                                Legalizing Marijuana would be incredibly helpful for the economy. If the economy was better the other problems with this country could be fixed more easily.
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                                                                • BigLouie66
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 05-09-10
                                                                  • 270

                                                                  #207
                                                                  legalize and tax it, everyone wins...except the dealers.
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                                                                  • JohnGalt2341
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 12-31-09
                                                                    • 9138

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by BigLouie66
                                                                    legalize and tax it, everyone wins...except the dealers.
                                                                    You are correct sir!!!
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                                                                    • 2Bdown
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 12-30-09
                                                                      • 484

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by BigLouie66
                                                                      legalize and tax it, everyone wins...except the dealers.
                                                                      wait a minute, it must still be dealt if its legalized. instead of many independent dealers, you now have a few corporate dealers.
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                                                                      • pavyracer
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                                        • 82839

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by 2Bdown
                                                                        wait a minute, it must still be dealt if its legalized. instead of many independent dealers, you now have a few corporate dealers.
                                                                        Not necessarily. When pot is legalized the government will put it in the middle of town squares like a water fountain and people will drop by and grab as much as they need and go home.
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