Censored Betfair robbery video (at SBR.tv)

[noyb]

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Could some European ratings be more accurate? Sure, but SBR doesn't know as much or have the same influence/communication with Euro books.

Following your logic: if they don't know as much, as you are implying, maybe they shouldn't rate them at all.

but anyway, this topic is drifting off. it's supposed to be about Betfair and this ridiculous dispute, not about SBR ratings as a whole. I'm still not sure: what is SBR recommending Betfair to do exactly: does SBR seriously think Betfair should pay this absurd promo, or is SBR simply critizing the way Betfair communicates and refuses to explain its actions?

[yisman]

but anyway, this topic is drifting off. it's supposed to be about Betfair and this ridiculous dispute, not about SBR ratings as a whole.

So why were you posting about SBR ratings as a whole?

[noyb]

i wasn't. i applauded someone else's post that, while off-topic, actually showed some common sense which is pretty rare in these betfair-related threads.

[yisman]

instead of applauding it, you could've told him to take his off topic crap elsewhere.

[Aussiecapper101]

Betfair wow

[acw]

Joewager, the only honest guy left:

http://www.joewager.com/sportsbook-warnings.htm

He never changed his opinion on BetFair and turns out he is right:

BetFair

http://www.betfair.com

A UK-based betting exchange with reportedly very high volumes. Well trusted by the British. The jury is still out here.

[Aussiecapper101]

I wonder if this applies to betfair australia too I guess it would??

[acw]

I wonder if this applies to betfair australia too I guess it would??

You guys have the same queen, so looks like it!

[Hareeba!]

I wonder if this applies to betfair australia too I guess it would??

does what apply to Oz too?

Aussies can't use Betfair's casino so no damage done there.

Still remains the #1 place to open a sportsbook account and be able to sleep soundly with your entire bankroll there.

[Monte]

i wonder if Hareeba has a sort of alarm clock set up for his PC, that rings whenever BF is mentioned.
Keep this up and you are on ignore soon for sure, like Chuck and other ppl who repeat the same thing over and over and over.
We all know by now that you adore BF, capiche?

[Aussiecapper101]

You guys have the same queen, so looks like it!

very true

[lawnmower]

The hitler video at youtube has now been censored for the UK.

BF must still be a little pissed at all this then.

As for me, I am starting legal proceedings. Rating change will not make BF pay me back my money.

[Santo]

The film owning the copyright to the Hitler footage have made copyright claims steadily over the last few months - not just Betfair but soccer/TSA/other targets too.

[Hareeba!]

i wonder if Hareeba has a sort of alarm clock set up for his PC, that rings whenever BF is mentioned.
Keep this up and you are on ignore soon for sure, like Chuck and other ppl who repeat the same thing over and over and over.
We all know by now that you adore BF, capiche?

Only fair that people are provided with facts about BF whenever some goon posts misinformation about them.

[mighty maron]

With these blatant actions by Betfair, should the A rating be removed until this is resolved? If I didnt see this video/thread and just went by the ratings, I would see nothing wrong with depositing.

[Pareto]

With these blatant actions by Betfair, should the A rating be removed until this is resolved? If I didnt see this video/thread and just went by the ratings, I would see nothing wrong with depositing.

And you would see right.

[lawnmower]

Emailed Betfair corporate about the removal of money today saying I was taking them to court. Got reply back within the hour.

Go suck yourself (or the LGA), the matter is closed and we wont discuss it futher.


So this action is sanctioned at corporate level.

[Justin7]

Emailed Betfair corporate about the removal of money today saying I was taking them to court. Got reply back within the hour.

Go suck yourself (or the LGA), the matter is closed and we wont discuss it futher.


So this action is sanctioned at corporate level.

lawn,

Could you forward their reply to my email? Justin at sportsbookreview dot com.

[lawnmower]

Sent.

[yokspot]

With these blatant actions by Betfair, should the A rating be removed until this is resolved? If I didnt see this video/thread and just went by the ratings, I would see nothing wrong with depositing.

I suspect the exchange won't change for the worse / better as a result, which is the SBR focus. The casino fiasco tells us what can happen in certain circumstances, and is useful information. However, this was such glaring idiocy in such unique circumstances (genuinely unique, this has never happened before in 15 years of online gambling) that such a situation will never be repeated.

Actually more worrying for me are the isolated cases of "bonus abuse" allegations, and less so that Betfair lost the plot in the aftermath of the Saturday night they tried their utmost to hand their casino over to their player base, then suddenly realised it maybe wasn't such a good idea.

[rake922]

I complained to Youtube about censoring my news story, and they reinstated it over the objections of whomever complained.

Hello Justin,

Betfair is rated an 'A' Sportsbook on sportsbookreview.com

When can I expect this grade to go down?

[Hareeba!]

Hello Justin,

Betfair is rated an 'A' Sportsbook on sportsbookreview.com

When can I expect this grade to go down?

what does it matter to you?
it seems you've already made up your mind
can you use Betfair or are you just another Yank who's fallen for the unwarranted scaremongering about the exchange?

[rake922]

what does it matter to you?
it seems you've already made up your mind
can you use Betfair or are you just another Yank who's fallen for the unwarranted scaremongering about the exchange?

OK so the ratings on sportsbookreview.com dont matter at all........ and even if I can't wager at Betfair I should just accept the fact that a book that Justin declares is stealing ... can still be graded as an 'A' book?

[Hareeba!]

OK so the ratings on sportsbookreview.com dont matter at all........ and even if I can't wager at Betfair I should just accept the fact that a book that Justin declares is stealing ... can still be graded as an 'A' book?

The ratings at SBR have frequently been shown up for being of little value and the integrity of the rating system to be severely compromised.
And some of the best books in the world don't even rate a mention, let alone a rating.
I don't give a flying RA what Justin has said about them in regard to the regrettable casino scalping episode.
I know very well that the Betfair exchange is 100% safe to play at and I'll continue to do so even if SBR rates them Z-.

[yisman]

Hareeba, why on earth are you even here? To shill for Betfair?

We get it, you love Betfair and hate SBR. You've stated as much hundreds of times.

[captrobey]

betfair will never see any money from me

[IrishTim]

Missed this video earlier. Pretty remarkable.

[Hareeba!]

Hareeba, why on earth are you even here? To shill for Betfair?

We get it, you love Betfair and hate SBR. You've stated as much hundreds of times.

Simply trying to put up a truthful and fair view of the facts to balance out so many irrelevant and misinformed posts.

There are things about Betfair which I don't like but safety of exchange players' funds is certainly not one of them.

I don't hate SBR but I certainly don't take their ratings as gospel.

[gafl]

This is important for horse players in the USA. Betfair owns TVG, one of the ADW's catering to USA horse players. With NJ going to start exchange wagering on horse racing in the near future, I'm sure Betfair will try and partner with NJ. Betfair has said that they are in the USA for the long haul. Thanks to Justin for keeping us informed with his videos.

[yisman]

Simply trying to put up a truthful and fair view of the facts to balance out so many irrelevant and misinformed posts.

Nice. So your opinion is "fair and truthful", as opposed to everyone else's.

I don't hate SBR but I certainly don't take their ratings as gospel.

There's a big difference between "not taking their ratings as gospel" and repeatedly bashing them and saying the ratings are garbage, as you have again and again for no apparent reason.

Two things:

A)No one is forcing you to post on SBR.
B)No one said you can't use Betfair.

Anytime anyone has anything negative to say about Betfair, you respond like they attacked a family member, and unleash vitriol at them and SBR.

[Pareto]

@ Hareeba

Let it go. Let SBR downgrade Betfair to an F.

SBR's rating on Betfair matters about as much as my rating on Betfair.

[Hareeba!]

Nice. So your opinion is "fair and truthful", as opposed to everyone else's.

not "everyone else's"
the vast majority of those familiar with Betfair would agree with me
problem is this is a Yank-centric forum where few know them

There's a big difference between "not taking their ratings as gospel" and repeatedly bashing them and saying the ratings are garbage, as you have again and again for no apparent reason.

thats bullshit
I haven't "repeatedly bashed" them
I have simply pointed out what many others have said about the ratings process

Two things:

A)No one is forcing you to post on SBR.
B)No one said you can't use Betfair. .

A) irrelevant
B) huh?

Anytime anyone has anything negative to say about Betfair, you respond like they attacked a family member, and unleash vitriol at them and SBR.

again a gross exaggeration
I simply like to correct inaccuracies and misinformation when I know them to be so
hopefully such information is of use to some, if not to you

[yisman]

edit: double post

[yisman]

thats bullshit
I haven't "repeatedly bashed" them

Not bullshit. It's the truth.

You act like no one has read your past posts.

You made gross attacks on SBR's integrity, and when challenged, you say that you don't think they should be taken as gospel.

Do you see anyone taking them as gospel? I don't. They're not updated frequently enough.

But there's a huge difference between "not taking them as gospel" and saying the kind of things you say about them.

A) irrelevant
B) huh?

A)Perfectly relevant. Given the way you feel about SBR, I'm surprised you continue to post here. As far as I know, no one is holding a gun to your head.

B)The point is that why on earth does it matter to you if someone says something negative about Betfair? You think they're great. Fine. Continue to bet with them. No one said you can't. But unless you work for Betfair, I don't see why you get so defensive. Every post I see from you is along the same lines.

[Hareeba!]

You made gross attacks on SBR's integrity, and when challenged, you say that you don't think they should be taken as gospel.

Do you see anyone taking them as gospel? I don't. They're not updated frequently enough.

But there's a huge difference between "not taking them as gospel" and saying the kind of things you say about them.

"gross attacks" ? .. show me where

Several posters have questioned their integrity, suggesting that they are closely related to advertising revenue.

I have criticised them for failing to even mention SBO, the best specialist soccer book there is. I've never seen any explanation as to why so we are left to speculate on why.

I have criticised them for rating books which are very slow paying and for not including any financial data examination in their ratings process. Clearly some of the books which they have rated B or better don't have proper processes for segregating player monies from their own and are effectively insolvent.

I don't think those can be fairly labelled "gross attacks" and I don't recall any other things I've said about their ratings.