Illinois -5 against Fresno St

**Retrospect** · 12-03-10, 11:59 AM

i have won some money with fresno this year but this game i rhink ill is a notch up but then fresno could surprise u,..

**Cuse0323** · 12-03-10, 12:04 PM

First glance I was surprised Fresno was getting that many points. Depends which team shows up, they both seem to either play well or terrible.

**Terrapin Station** · 12-03-10, 12:10 PM

I'm on Fresno tonight.

**ngates815** · 12-03-10, 12:11 PM

I will not touch this game as last year I was at a christmas party and not really paying attention, and this was the last game in a 7 teamer, and had ILL ML.

If anyone remembers last years whore shit game....Fuckk that fires me up. Ridiculous TD for Fresno to tie it up, then they go for 2 and even more of a ridiculous play. FUCKK

**d2bets** · 12-03-10, 12:12 PM

Huge step up for Fresno. They won a wild won against IL last year, but IL is a much better team this year. Revenge game too. Plus nothing really on the line for Fresno, game matters for Illinois bowl assignment.

**juanego** · 12-03-10, 12:20 PM

Defensively Illinois is ranking above in everything against Fresno, on paper. SU Illinois has got it, but I wouldnt be suprised if its close, SU for tonight packed with No. Illinois to take it all.

**dfberger23** · 12-03-10, 12:22 PM

I teased Fresno, not touching the spread which I feel is a toss up.

**Pasadena69ers** · 12-03-10, 12:29 PM

How 'bout the total??

**Hat McCulloch** · 12-03-10, 12:34 PM

teased Fresno aswell. Illinois is going west coast in a game that doesn't matter that much

**d2bets** · 12-03-10, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by dfberger23

I teased Fresno, not touching the spread which I feel is a toss up.

That seems like a bad idea. Illinois will probably either lose or blow Fresno out of the stadium. If Fresno can't stop Leshore they can get demolished. It just wouldn't shock me to see Illinois win by 20+.

**d2bets** · 12-03-10, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Hat McCulloch

teased Fresno aswell. Illinois is going west coast in a game that doesn't matter that much

Not true. It matters not at all to Fresno's bowl. For Illinois, it will greatly effect which bowl they go to, plus revenge from last year.

**anthonydiamondLC** · 12-03-10, 12:37 PM

Fresno St stud RB is out for this game.

**d2bets** · 12-03-10, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by anthonydiamondLC

Fresno St stud RB is out for this game.

I know he was questionable. Is he confirmed out?

**dfberger23** · 12-03-10, 12:41 PM

Never underestimate a team on senior night.

**LV420** · 12-03-10, 12:45 PM

If Fresno running back is out makes this decision really easy.

**anthonydiamondLC** · 12-03-10, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

I know he was questionable. Is he confirmed out?

http://www.pjstar.com/sports/college/x556842993/Capsule-Illinois-6-5-vs-Fresno-State-7-4

Thats the article I read that lists him as doubtful. The total has also gone down as much as 3 pts so I'm gonna assume he's most likely out.

**kernssca** · 12-03-10, 12:47 PM

Gotta think Illi will show up here and take this by at least a TD

**d2bets** · 12-03-10, 12:53 PM

Rouse is the only Fresno RB to do anything this year. That's gotta hurt them if he can't go. Hard to imagine Fresno sustaining drives without a running game. And they better score, because Illinois will. Illinois scored a lot last year and their offense and running game is vastly better this season, especially recently. How are they going to stop Leshore? Their defense is not that big. Illinois is gonna manhandle them. The more I look at this the more I gotta like Illinois. I know Fresno can be good at home and it's senior night and all, but they seem to be outmanned here on matchups. They would have a chance with a strong running game, but without Rouse? This could get ugly, I think.

**scarp** · 12-03-10, 01:28 PM

Taking Illinois tonight..... Fresno was horrid vs. Boise.. Also liking Northern Illinois and the over

**49erFan8280** · 12-03-10, 01:28 PM

I like the over on this tonight.

**Irish Lumberjack** · 12-03-10, 01:53 PM

Like n.ill tonight but ill is a tough one

**sjm5122** · 12-03-10, 01:54 PM

I wouldn't trust Illinois enough to lay 5 points on the road, they have been pretty inconsistent this year.

**goblinburner** · 12-03-10, 02:09 PM

i would take whichever team on this won illinois has a spread offense with the similiar productivity of auburn and are just 8 spots down from oregon with total yard.(weak defense) fresno on the other hand has more of a balanced attack there playing for respect from last year but i really fresno defense needs to stop the big run plays so there going to cheat there safeties for the majority of the game. once that happens illinois are going to counter that with 3 read back plays to cheat the safeties toward the middle for ilinois to toss it or run bootlegs with there backs after that happens the short pass slants will be used and fresno will be put in short yardage almost the whole game meaning there going to need there offense to score early. i like fresno to win but if there giving me more points ill take that cuz i know this game will be close

**clarkd32** · 12-03-10, 02:31 PM

not sure how Fresno stops Illinois but if Fresno rb is out not sure I want to mess with the game total. maybe Illinois team total over 31.5???

I think Illinois is playing for an Outback or Gator bowl bid...

**Rookie-Capper** · 12-03-10, 02:32 PM

I like the plays good luck

**d2bets** · 12-03-10, 02:48 PM

I really think Fresno gets overwhelmed tonight.

41-10 Illinois

**BernardMadoff** · 12-03-10, 02:52 PM

Comments seem like an open and shut case lol these usually don't work out well. See ya at the boxscore.

**Heighbidder** · 12-03-10, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

I really think Fresno gets overwhelmed tonight.

41-10 Illinois

On Senior Night, you think Fresno State is going to get pounded? That would be a first in Fresno on a primetime home game. Fresno State has beaten two of the last three BCS teams to come into Fresno (K State, Cincy) by multiple TD's as underdogs and lost by 3 to Wisconsin (two missed fg's) in 2008 as a small underdog. They are 6-4 SU against BCS teams in the last 10. It's a 24-20 type game for the winner. I would be taking the points on either team.

Rouse is out but AJ Ellis rushed for 165 yards in his lone start before getting hurt against Ole Miss and is much more of a threat on screens and in the passing game. Shouldn't be too big of a drop off especially with Ellis now 100%.

Fresno State lost by 1 at home two weeks ago to a much better Nevada team and I just don't see Illinois having the success Nevada did. Before Leshoure played 3 bad defensive teams in the B10, he had one game over 100 yards in the previous 5 and we should know that the QB isn't going to win many games with his arm.

Under is the best play of the night however. I went and looked at the field last night and it is in bad shape, it will be a factor in the game tonight and a reason why I don't see a team going on an offensive run to blow either out. It will be a short game as well.

**SCRAGGS** · 12-03-10, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by dfberger23

Never underestimate a team on senior night.

not sure I agree with this, I saw someone post here at SBR
they were looking for the schedule for Sr Nights as last year
they were Horrible ATS, anyone else remember this?

**t-wizzle** · 12-03-10, 03:32 PM

I like the over in this one.

**Heighbidder** · 12-03-10, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

I like the over in this one.

Be leary...There is a reason this total dropped 3 points shortly after opening. Both defenses are good and the field is in bad shape. Before it opened I was already going to hit the under knowing there would be an overreaction to last year's game and Illinois' recent games. However it was 57 before I even saw it was out and have now waited for it to go up like I knew it would. I'll try to get 58.5 and be happy.

**frostno98** · 12-03-10, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by LV420

If Fresno running back is out makes this decision really easy.

Not really? They have a backup with similar breakout abilities, so it won't really affect them from the running part. Fresno will come to play against Illinois because they like to increase their wins verses BCS teams. It's senior night, and they will come out firing.

**d2bets** · 12-03-10, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Heighbidder

On Senior Night, you think Fresno State is going to get pounded? That would be a first in Fresno on a primetime home game. Fresno State has beaten two of the last three BCS teams to come into Fresno (K State, Cincy) by multiple TD's as underdogs and lost by 3 to Wisconsin (two missed fg's) in 2008 as a small underdog. They are 6-4 SU against BCS teams in the last 10. It's a 24-20 type game for the winner. I would be taking the points on either team.

Rouse is out but AJ Ellis rushed for 165 yards in his lone start before getting hurt against Ole Miss and is much more of a threat on screens and in the passing game. Shouldn't be too big of a drop off especially with Ellis now 100%.

Fresno State lost by 1 at home two weeks ago to a much better Nevada team and I just don't see Illinois having the success Nevada did. Before Leshoure played 3 bad defensive teams in the B10, he had one game over 100 yards in the previous 5 and we should know that the QB isn't going to win many games with his arm.

Under is the best play of the night however. I went and looked at the field last night and it is in bad shape, it will be a factor in the game tonight and a reason why I don't see a team going on an offensive run to blow either out. It will be a short game as well.

Ellis did that against fukkin Utah State. That's a high school team compared to the size and speed the Illinois defense will present. I do't think Fresno is nearly as good as in past years and now without Rouse and really without Bowl motivation either, facing an offense that is scoring at will. We'll see, but I think this could get outta hand.

**ronjon619** · 12-03-10, 04:03 PM

Too much firepower for fresno to handle. Illinois wins by at least double digits.