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  • SlickFazzer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-22-08
    • 20209

    #1
    Fishhead: Any edges at the Roulette table?
    Thanks in advance.
  • goofyre
    SBR MVP
    • 04-20-10
    • 1933

    #2
    Ride the wave.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Roulette

      Martingale works red/ black
      Table with no limits Only
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #4
        Only two ways to win at ROULETTE as far as I know...........

        1. Unbalanced wheel............very, very rare to find.

        2. Coupon matchplays and/or some type of casino promo


        Roulette has a huge house edge.
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        • notsosharp
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-25-10
          • 799

          #5
          roulette actually a really bad game to play. The house has a bigger edge on this game then most. If you bet red or black it is still bad because most weels have two zeros and the european roulette has one zero. But if it lands in the green you lose if you bet red or black. If you want to bet red or black better off playing baccarat. In baccarat you can bet player or bank these can be like red or black. the only difference if there is tie its a push. If you win on bank you have to pay 5% commission though. The casino edge on this game is a little above 1%. The casino edge on roulelle is 7% and can be higher depending on the way you play.
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          • SlickFazzer
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-22-08
            • 20209

            #6
            Good stuff guys. thanks.
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            • ouman101
              SBR MVP
              • 12-02-09
              • 2815

              #7
              Originally posted by notsosharp
              roulette actually a really bad game to play. The house has a bigger edge on this game then most. If you bet red or black it is still bad because most weels have two zeros and the european roulette has one zero. But if it lands in the green you lose if you bet red or black. If you want to bet red or black better off playing baccarat. In baccarat you can bet player or bank these can be like red or black. the only difference if there is tie its a push. If you win on bank you have to pay 5% commission though. The casino edge on this game is a little above 1%. The casino edge on roulelle is 7% and can be higher depending on the way you play.
              Good info here
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              • Nicky Santoro
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-08-08
                • 16103

                #8
                The way i do it is the ONLY way roulette can be beaten. I NEVER play vs the house. what i do is if i want red and and i see a guy put $ on black, i tell him to pick up his chip and that i'll take red and whoever loses, pays the other guy. if he puts a 50$ chip on black, i tell him before spin that i got 50$ on red.. and right after each spin, we pay up.. and this way, we avoid the greens. when it lands on green, we push and the whole table loses. if you do this for 8 hrs, it'll land on the green maybe 20 times.. at 50$ a pop, that's 1,000$ in your pocket.. Now it don't matter if you play at 1 green or double zero green table. .

                this way, you can play roulette at non -ev. it's a dead even game now.. and if you don't want to ask anyone to do this.. just go with a few friends and each take turns to pick their color.. and make sure you settle after each spin, so you don't get confused what is tab.. it works like a charm.

                YOU'RE WELCOME.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Lol Nicky

                  In theory it works but at table not allowed
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #10
                    Many gaming professionals have made good scores with an UNBALANCED wheel...............again, they are hard to find, but when spotted they are a goldmine.
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                    • exstatman
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-02-06
                      • 1060

                      #11
                      On a single zero wheel, ALL bets have a house edge of 2.7%, on a double zero wheel, all bets except the 0-00-1-2-3 have a 5.26% house edge. The0-00-1-2-3 has a 7.89% edge.
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                      • Nicky Santoro
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-08-08
                        • 16103

                        #12
                        Originally posted by notsosharp
                        rThe casino edge on roulelle is 7% and can be higher depending on the way you play.

                        The edge is 5.26% for the house with Double Zeroes.. and 2.70% edge with single zero.. still very high, but it's not 7% though..


                        JJ, been doing this for 15 yrs and it's impossible to get caught. just stand 22 feet from table and talk low to your partner and after each spin, give the chip to each other and then tell him, what do you want next spin?? he says black, you say ok, i got red.. you are nowhere near the table.. you dont even have to be there. you talk really low. in fact, you don't even have to talk low. you are far away.. before each spin, you can walk to table, watch spin, then come back and give him 50$ and then discuss who you taking in next spin. if you only knew how much you'd save doing this..
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                        • d2bets
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 39995

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                          The way i do it is the ONLY way roulette can be beaten. I NEVER play vs the house. what i do is if i want red and and i see a guy put $ on black, i tell him to pick up his chip and that i'll take red and whoever loses, pays the other guy. if he puts a 50$ chip on black, i tell him before spin that i got 50$ on red.. and right after each spin, we pay up.. and this way, we avoid the greens. when it lands on green, we push and the whole table loses. if you do this for 8 hrs, it'll land on the green maybe 20 times.. at 50$ a pop, that's 1,000$ in your pocket.. Now it don't matter if you play at 1 green or double zero green table. .

                          this way, you can play roulette at non -ev. it's a dead even game now.. and if you don't want to ask anyone to do this.. just go with a few friends and each take turns to pick their color.. and make sure you settle after each spin, so you don't get confused what is tab.. it works like a charm.

                          YOU'RE WELCOME.
                          What is the point of the dead even game? You might as well walk away from the table and flip a coin.
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                          • Nicky Santoro
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-08-08
                            • 16103

                            #14
                            Originally posted by d2bets
                            What is the point of the dead even game? You might as well walk away from the table and flip a coin.
                            it's good if you like to play roulette. instead of giving them 5.26%, you give them nothing.. it's only good if you're at the casino. if i am going there with friends for the evening, why would i want to give them my money when i can have the same fun and give them zilch. now you have a 50-50 shot at winning money instead of a 0.0003% chance.
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                            • Reload
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-23-08
                              • 12249

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                              The way i do it is the ONLY way roulette can be beaten. I NEVER play vs the house. what i do is if i want red and and i see a guy put $ on black, i tell him to pick up his chip and that i'll take red and whoever loses, pays the other guy. if he puts a 50$ chip on black, i tell him before spin that i got 50$ on red.. and right after each spin, we pay up.. and this way, we avoid the greens. when it lands on green, we push and the whole table loses. if you do this for 8 hrs, it'll land on the green maybe 20 times.. at 50$ a pop, that's 1,000$ in your pocket.. Now it don't matter if you play at 1 green or double zero green table. .

                              this way, you can play roulette at non -ev. it's a dead even game now.. and if you don't want to ask anyone to do this.. just go with a few friends and each take turns to pick their color.. and make sure you settle after each spin, so you don't get confused what is tab.. it works like a charm.

                              YOU'RE WELCOME.
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                              • d2bets
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 39995

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                it's good if you like to play roulette. instead of giving them 5.26%, you give them nothing.. it's only good if you're at the casino. if i am going there with friends for the evening, why would i want to give them my money when i can have the same fun and give them zilch. now you have a 50-50 shot at winning money instead of a 0.0003% chance.
                                Why would it be fun to stand there and do this? That's the part I don't get. What good can come of it? Are you getting free drinks or something?
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                                • Herky
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-09-10
                                  • 748

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  Roulette

                                  Martingale works red/ black
                                  Table with no limits Only
                                  good answer. i can win money with unlimited bankroll and no limits at the table.
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                                  • Yi
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-19-09
                                    • 646

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                    The way i do it is the ONLY way roulette can be beaten. I NEVER play vs the house. what i do is if i want red and and i see a guy put $ on black, i tell him to pick up his chip and that i'll take red and whoever loses, pays the other guy. if he puts a 50$ chip on black, i tell him before spin that i got 50$ on red.. and right after each spin, we pay up.. and this way, we avoid the greens. when it lands on green, we push and the whole table loses. if you do this for 8 hrs, it'll land on the green maybe 20 times.. at 50$ a pop, that's 1,000$ in your pocket.. Now it don't matter if you play at 1 green or double zero green table. .

                                    this way, you can play roulette at non -ev. it's a dead even game now.. and if you don't want to ask anyone to do this.. just go with a few friends and each take turns to pick their color.. and make sure you settle after each spin, so you don't get confused what is tab.. it works like a charm.

                                    YOU'RE WELCOME.
                                    Sharp post. Do you do this for other games other than Roulette?
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                                    • brxbmbers42
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 07-26-10
                                      • 4312

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                      The way i do it is the ONLY way roulette can be beaten. I NEVER play vs the house. what i do is if i want red and and i see a guy put $ on black, i tell him to pick up his chip and that i'll take red and whoever loses, pays the other guy. if he puts a 50$ chip on black, i tell him before spin that i got 50$ on red.. and right after each spin, we pay up.. and this way, we avoid the greens. when it lands on green, we push and the whole table loses. if you do this for 8 hrs, it'll land on the green maybe 20 times.. at 50$ a pop, that's 1,000$ in your pocket.. Now it don't matter if you play at 1 green or double zero green table. .

                                      this way, you can play roulette at non -ev. it's a dead even game now.. and if you don't want to ask anyone to do this.. just go with a few friends and each take turns to pick their color.. and make sure you settle after each spin, so you don't get confused what is tab.. it works like a charm.

                                      YOU'RE WELCOME.

                                      fukkin sharp
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                                      • daneault23
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-08-09
                                        • 3863

                                        #20
                                        Most likely a fukkn scam, but I get these emails from some shit called Genuine Winner where you can buy a package for thousands of dollars and they claim people make huge amounts of money with this. Anyone heard of these ppl?
                                        Last edited by daneault23; 12-02-10, 07:14 PM.
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                                        • Rio DiNero
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-03-08
                                          • 2010

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Fishhead
                                          Many gaming professionals have made good scores with an UNBALANCED wheel...............again, they are hard to find, but when spotted they are a goldmine.
                                          I thought the unbalanced wheel went out in the 80's.
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                                          • saints7011
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-21-09
                                            • 5544

                                            #22
                                            put 10.00 on every red except 5 & 32 , put 170 on black , 0,5,32 will lose all your money , all others make money , know need to try this at a live casino , you WILL be asked to leave...
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                                            • dodger33
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-14-09
                                              • 3962

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by saints7011
                                              put 10.00 on every red except 5 & 32 , put 170 on black , 0,5,32 will lose all your money , all others make money , know need to try this at a live casino , you WILL be asked to leave...
                                              What about 00
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                                              • QuantumLeap
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-22-08
                                                • 6878

                                                #24
                                                Roulette spinners are creatures of habit. They get in a groove throwing the ball and spinning the wheel the same way every time. If you can notice their rhythm you can have a pretty good idea where the ball will end up.
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                                                • saints7011
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-21-09
                                                  • 5544

                                                  #25
                                                  euro , and don't play all day , you will get 10 to 20 a roll profit and pray those 3 numbers don't come up in first 10 rolls(it will happen , but not often from what I've seen) , 10 rolls a day and a 100.00 profit minimum IF none of the 3 numbers hit...
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                                                  • dodger33
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-14-09
                                                    • 3962

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by saints7011
                                                    euro , and don't play all day , you will get 10 to 20 a roll profit and pray those 3 numbers don't come up in first 10 rolls(it will happen , but not often from what I've seen) , 10 rolls a day and a 100.00 profit minimum IF none of the 3 numbers hit...
                                                    What is the edge with those numbers?
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                                                    • saints7011
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-21-09
                                                      • 5544

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by dodger33
                                                      What is the edge with those numbers?
                                                      no edge on the actual numbers listed , just giving an idea how to do it , just the numbers I use to play , could probably still be done online , but a few years ago I was asked not to do it again in a casino...
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                                                      • dodger33
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-14-09
                                                        • 3962

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by saints7011
                                                        no edge on the actual numbers listed , just giving an idea how to do it , just the numbers I use to play , could probably still be done online , but a few years ago I was asked not to do it again in a casino...
                                                        Got it thanks... very interesting to say the least.
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                                                        • saints7011
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-21-09
                                                          • 5544

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by dodger33
                                                          Got it thanks... very interesting to say the least.
                                                          we were also not playing for a 10.00 - 20.00 profit per spin , I'm sure someone was goin to eventually ask "why were you asked to leave for a few bucks"...
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                                                          • matelionis
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 11-27-09
                                                            • 214

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by saints7011
                                                            put 10.00 on every red except 5 & 32 , put 170 on black , 0,5,32 will lose all your money , all others make money , know need to try this at a live casino , you WILL be asked to leave...
                                                            Saints, how long were you playing before they asked you to leave? How much were you up? Did you only try it at one casino?
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                                                            • saints7011
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-21-09
                                                              • 5544

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by matelionis
                                                              Saints, how long were you playing before they asked you to leave? How much were you up? Did you only try it at one casino?
                                                              it wasn't only me and in this "online world" we live in , if I told you what we did , everybody would call me a lier , all I can say is , get yourself and 4 friends together , the 5 of you play at different roulette tables(10 spins for everyone) and regroup and tell me how you did...if they will allow it...
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                                                              • jrmartin.mig
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-29-10
                                                                • 624

                                                                #32
                                                                Play the columns at the bottom of the table ie: 1-4-7-10 ect. They pay out 2-1. Play 2 out of the 3 columns for say $10 each (to keep the math easy). You cover 63% of the board (including 0-00), doesnt really matter which 2 columns you bet. You have $20 on the board to play 2 columns and if 1 of them hits, you win $10 (your original $10 wager plus the $20 you won). You lose $10 for the column that didnt hit, but get $20 for the one that did. If the 3rd column hits (the one you didnt bet) or either 0 or 00, you double your bet to $20 per column the next spin. If this hits, you get back the money you lost when the previous spin plus win another $10. I've tried this a dozen or so times just to see how it went and it has ALWAYS won in the long run. The most I have ever gone without one of my columns hitting is 3 spins in a row. Its slow, boring as all hell, and get some looks in your direction from the pit crew, but it works!
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                                  The edge is 5.26% for the house with Double Zeroes.. and 2.70% edge with single zero.. still very high, but it's not 7% though..


                                                                  JJ, been doing this for 15 yrs and it's impossible to get caught. just stand 22 feet from table and talk low to your partner and after each spin, give the chip to each other and then tell him, what do you want next spin?? he says black, you say ok, i got red.. you are nowhere near the table.. you dont even have to be there. you talk really low. in fact, you don't even have to talk low. you are far away.. before each spin, you can walk to table, watch spin, then come back and give him 50$ and then discuss who you taking in next spin. if you only knew how much you'd save doing this..


                                                                  Who is this kid??? He has every fukkin angle covered.
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                                                                  • 30K Millionaire
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-10-10
                                                                    • 2003

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Play SBR single-zero roulette and zero comes up twice in a row or 3 out of 15 spins give me a break SBR
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                                                                    • SlickFazzer
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 05-22-08
                                                                      • 20209

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Excellent information guys.
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