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  • burgerbaron
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-04-08
    • 30

    #71
    thanks scorp iam just so completely po'ed
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    • burgerbaron
      SBR Rookie
      • 02-04-08
      • 30

      #72
      i guess my only out at this point is to undue my transactions unless someone has another solution.they cannot produce a receipt from the bank that it was recieved and they are talking out of both sides of thier mouth saying the trace was successful and when i inquired saying they cancled it.
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      • EaglesPhan36
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 71662

        #73
        This is another example of why I think people should always ask to get a check cut to them instead of funds transfers. Don't know if you still wouldn't get the run-around, but seems like it's pretty cut & dry compared to he-said, she-said EFT probs.
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        • Bill Dozer
          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
          • 07-12-05
          • 10894

          #74
          Originally posted by burgerbaron
          i guess my only out at this point is to undue my transactions unless someone has another solution.they cannot produce a receipt from the bank that it was recieved and they are talking out of both sides of thier mouth saying the trace was successful and when i inquired saying they cancled it.
          Burger,

          Why not take the transaction numbers to your bank who Bookmaker says confirmed with them that they are in receipt of the funds?

          You may have a hard time disputing the transactions with 25 subsequent deposits to them.
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          • Bill Dozer
            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
            • 07-12-05
            • 10894

            #75
            Originally posted by HAPPY BOY
            Thanks Bill for comming forward, was starting to get worried since Bookmaker is one of my favorite books. You know my story, I am easily spooked with off shore books after being burned by one already. Hey BurgerBaron, now its on you. Let us know how this all works out. If it was your bad, than say so. Don't leave us hanging after Bill gave you a reply. We need a conclusion and an explanation to put this puppy to bed!
            No problem Happy. I was at a wedding over the weekend and did not realize this thread was not addressed.

            Don't let the conspiracy poster get you going. You guys who have been here a while know we haved tossed sponsors and downgrade top books...that a book on our forum is there because it has been proven and its rating is never guarenteed.
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            • burgerbaron
              SBR Rookie
              • 02-04-08
              • 30

              #76
              the bank has no record of the transaction and those numbers mean nothing to them.those are just processor numbers nothing more.It is on the processor end,just like when you make a deposit.they give you a receipt.bookmaker cannot come up with one because there is not one.as for deposits i have not made one since i figured i was getting ripped off by them.
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              • increasedodds
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-20-06
                • 819

                #77
                Cris is not out to steal your $1000. There is about as much chance of me stealing $1000 from you as there is of Cris doing so.

                Most likely they sent the transfer and most likely it got screwed up at your bank.

                I would take two steps:

                1. I would go to my bank with the transfer numbers and ask the bank to look for it. They might find it.

                2. I would respond to Scott Martin with copies of your bank statements showing you did not receive it.

                I suspect one of the two will fix the problem.

                If not, I would ask Bill for help...

                Sean
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                • Bill Dozer
                  www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                  • 07-12-05
                  • 10894

                  #78
                  Originally posted by TurbanCowboy40
                  sbr is like any other business. If you pay them enough, they'll bend over.

                  Betonsports.com which went down in flames spent tons of money on advertising dollars. On 610 WIP, which is the major sports radio station in Philly, they advertised regularly. They put all their money into fooling people they were legit.

                  A site like sportsbetting.com gets a weak rating on this site and in the 6 years I bet through them exclusively I never once had a problem getting paid promptly. Their customer service was also excellent.
                  BetOnSports used to say the same thing about SBR around the time we told them they couldn't hang their banners here.

                  Sportsbetting.com had a poor rating because they stiffed players and ran with [SBRFORUM]Sportsbook.com[/SBRFORUM]. You won't win that argument on this board.
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                  • burgerbaron
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 02-04-08
                    • 30

                    #79
                    been to the bank.like i said they have no reocrd of the transaction.bookmaker cannot come up with a reciept.that is what i would have to have.yes they are ripping me off or they would have a receipt.this is not rocket science.
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                    • burgerbaron
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 02-04-08
                      • 30

                      #80
                      i made deposits in good faith for some promos.it has nothing to do with the 1000 owed.quite frankly that they would give you that info trying to besmerch me is even worse than the non -payout.i get the implication and am saying screw that.i have not made a deposit since i fugured out they where going to rip me.Why is it up to me and not them.Bill ask them for the receipt from US bank for the money.Very simple.everyone gets a receipt.If you are referring that i may have spent the money back that is totally false.they owe me the money.
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                      • burgerbaron
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 02-04-08
                        • 30

                        #81
                        bill i have not had 25 susbsquent deposits to them.please quit spreading that.i have not deposited a dime since figuring they where not going to pay me.I really do not like the implication you are making ,it is totally unfair and you need to stop it.
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                        • burgerbaron
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 02-04-08
                          • 30

                          #82
                          bill since you have the inside scoop.ask them to show you the receipt for the wire.very simple.
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                          • michael777
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-20-05
                            • 1936

                            #83
                            amazing! you say you did not deposit when you thought they might not pay,bill says you deposited 25 times,quite a difference in scenarios!
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                            • burgerbaron
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 02-04-08
                              • 30

                              #84
                              well it seems that to bash me now is the deal and he is the hit man.he implies one thing without the whole story.i always have made alot of small deposits so do not be fooled by that number. shame on him by the way,shooting the messenger and doing their dirty work.tell him to get the receipt form the bank for the money.they are giving him everything else why not that?
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                              • 20Four7
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-08-07
                                • 6703

                                #85
                                I have never had any issues with bookmaker. No one else I know of has every had any issues with them (except the cold calling issue or their withdrawal fees issue). They called me last night and gave me a free entry into their black jack tourney last night. That seemed great until our power went out 15 minutes before the tourney started.
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                                • Bill Dozer
                                  www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                  • 07-12-05
                                  • 10894

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by burgerbaron
                                  well it seems that to bash me now is the deal and he is the hit man.he implies one thing without the whole story.i always have made alot of small deposits so do not be fooled by that number. shame on him by the way,shooting the messenger and doing their dirty work.tell him to get the receipt form the bank for the money.they are giving him everything else why not that?
                                  burger,

                                  We are not attacking you. As I mentioned, mistakes do happen and with four parties involved, it's very possible the money is not in your account. These mistakes happen even with domestic transactions.

                                  My suggestion remains the same as in the other thread and is similar to what Sean posted. Print out and/or screen capture your running bank statement and send it to Bookmaker. Allow them to contact your bank with the transfer ID again with you on the line. I'm not sure about any more info on a paper receipt but if your bank needs other numbers, of course you should get it.

                                  If it was me, the first thing I would do is show the book my bank statement absent of the deposit to the account.
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                                  • twtb19
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-08-07
                                    • 553

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                    burger,

                                    We are not attacking you. As I mentioned, mistakes do happen and with four parties involved, it's very possible the money is not in your account. These mistakes happen even with domestic transactions.

                                    My suggestion remains the same as in the other thread and is similar to what Sean posted. Print out and/or screen capture your running bank statement and send it to Bookmaker. Allow them to contact your bank with the transfer ID again with you on the line. I'm not sure about any more info on a paper receipt but if your bank needs other numbers, of course you should get it.

                                    If it was me, the first thing I would do is show the book my bank statement absent of the deposit to the account.
                                    Good advice on how to handle this, couldn't agree more.
                                    I work at a bank and this is what you should do. Show them (bookmaker) the bank statement and see what they say...if they act like it was sent then get them on 3-way with you and your bank to go over it. This will eliminate doubt in everyones mind about if the money is in your account and they will have to send it again or can find out why it isn't there.
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                                    • Bill Dozer
                                      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                      • 07-12-05
                                      • 10894

                                      #88
                                      burger,

                                      Bookmaker tells me they are going to get the full report on the transaction. We should find out soon where your money is. Hang in there.
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                                      • burgerbaron
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 02-04-08
                                        • 30

                                        #89
                                        well bill why bring up the deposit issue as it has nothing to do with the problem at hand other than to muddy the waters.Was there a other reason it was brought up?
                                        i have sent the bank statement.Bill the bank says they could care less about those numbers,they have no effect or meaning on wether they recieved the funds.reciept is what is needed.
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                                        • burgerbaron
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 02-04-08
                                          • 30

                                          #90
                                          ok bill.thank you .i am hanging on like that picture of the cat with his fingernials.
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                                          • Bill Dozer
                                            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                            • 07-12-05
                                            • 10894

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by burgerbaron
                                            well bill why bring up the deposit issue as it has nothing to do with the problem at hand other than to muddy the waters.Was there a other reason it was brought up?
                                            i have sent the bank statement.Bill the bank says they could care less about those numbers,they have no effect or meaning on wether they recieved the funds.reciept is what is needed.
                                            With successful transfers in your account it should help your situation. It's also important to give fair perspective from both sides. If a the player gives permission to inquire on his behalf after starting multiple "ripoff" threads, the book is going to note that the player is still betting in the account after his posts.

                                            Depositing months later is not indicative of someone who has been waiting for his withdrawal which is why showing the book that your account is missing the funds and if need be, sending them the statement from a bank staff member that the money is not there, would be helpful.

                                            They will go back to the processor for a full audit of the transfer. If it's their fault you will likely also get a bonus as compensation.
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                                            • burgerbaron
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 02-04-08
                                              • 30

                                              #92
                                              well i did post the transcripts which back up everything i posted.so i understand where you are coming from but giving the impression i was betting tons with them after this mess is just not true and that is the impression that was given
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                                              • Bill Dozer
                                                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                • 07-12-05
                                                • 10894

                                                #93
                                                There is no reason why they shouldn't give you all of the bank info. Let's see what comes out of this audit.
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                                                • Poker_Beast
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-14-06
                                                  • 6547

                                                  #94
                                                  Sucks man, hope you get your cash out! Every one of these stories scares me and makes me more cautious of online gambling.
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                                                  • gridiron guru
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 02-21-07
                                                    • 255

                                                    #95
                                                    Welp looks like i wont be playin @ bookmaker
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                                                    • purecarnagge
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-05-07
                                                      • 4843

                                                      #96
                                                      This should have been solved/done weeks ago. There lack of follow thru on a players request for an audit/review is concerning.
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                                                      • burgerbaron
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 02-04-08
                                                        • 30

                                                        #97
                                                        Scott,has been in contact with me and has assured me he will get it handled.i believe him ,we will see.
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                                                        • HedgeHog
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-11-07
                                                          • 10128

                                                          #98
                                                          Bill or BBD:

                                                          Another thread suggests that Bookmaker shorted a player $200 on his transfer. Any update on that one? I'm guessing they "just" took out their $200 transfer fee from his withdrawal.
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82900

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                            Bill or BBD:

                                                            Another thread suggests that Bookmaker shorted a player $200 on his transfer. Any update on that one? I'm guessing they "just" took out their $200 transfer fee from his withdrawal.
                                                            you are preaching to the choir dude. knock it off.
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                                                            • HedgeHog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-11-07
                                                              • 10128

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                              you are preaching to the choir dude. knock it off.
                                                              I seriously want to know how that other complaint turned out. Why so defensive?
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                                                              • Bill Dozer
                                                                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                                • 07-12-05
                                                                • 10894

                                                                #101
                                                                Bill or BBD:

                                                                Another thread suggests that Bookmaker shorted a player $200 on his transfer. Any update on that one? I'm guessing they "just" took out their $200 transfer fee from his withdrawal.
                                                                Haven't heard from him yet. I believe he is sharing experience at this point.

                                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                you are preaching to the choir dude. knock it off.
                                                                Sounds like something that will be figured out soon but he can vent. This is the place for it. Let's see how long it takes to figure out regardless of whos fault.
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                                                                • HedgeHog
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 09-11-07
                                                                  • 10128

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                                  Haven't heard from him yet. I believe he is sharing experience at this point.Sounds like something that will be figured out soon but he can vent. This is the place for it. Let's see how long it takes to figure out regardless of whos fault.
                                                                  He responded in the State of the Industry Forum, but for some reason that thread doesn't re-appear up in the Main Forum anymore. I tried to bump it and although the thread was briefly shown, it was quickly deleted from here and only appears there. Any reason that thread is being suppressed?
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                                                                  • Aces
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-22-05
                                                                    • 1278

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Whether BurgerBarons claim is legit or not I still suggest any serious players get away from Bookmaker.

                                                                    1. Customer Service is the worst in the industry.
                                                                    2. Fees are the highest in the industry
                                                                    3. Pay Out rules and nutty (1 pay out every seven days and we the book reserve the right to take up to 10 days to get it to you.)
                                                                    4. Increasing number of customer complaints.

                                                                    THIS IS NOT AN "A" RATED BOOK
                                                                    Possibly a B book if your willing to put up with all the crap that comes with the early lines.
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                                                                    • HedgeHog
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                                      • 10128

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Ganchrow
                                                                      bump test
                                                                      Ganch: The thread in question is "Bookmaker Shorting Payouts" in State of the Industry.* Dan recently posted there, but the thread still doesn't appear here.* Somehow that particular thread isn't connected with the Main Forum.* No big deal.
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                                                                      • Bill Dozer
                                                                        www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                                        • 07-12-05
                                                                        • 10894

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Ganch fixed a glitch affecting this thread's mirror. The thread you are talking about originated here and was never in players talk.
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