Bet more than they should
Do not bet same amount per game all the time
Deuce
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
01-12-08
29843
#2
Think they know what they are doing consider themselves sharp but are only hamburgers.
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firedawg
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
10-08-08
39219
#3
no need to bet same amount on all games............ stupid statement jj
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ProfaneReality
SBR Hall of Famer
04-14-09
7607
#4
sharps dont flat bet, come on guy
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gummo
SBR Hall of Famer
09-04-06
6297
#5
I kinda know what you mean. Getting your ass beat in the early games so you go crazy doubling up on the 4 pm games. That will bury you.
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tanner40
SBR MVP
03-24-10
2129
#6
JJ your right money management is 90% of this game. Picking winners is only 20%
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B1GER1C828
SBR Posting Legend
07-31-07
10244
#7
as sharp as a plastic knife....
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#8
it has nothing to do with money mgmt. it's not because they dont bet same amounts on each game cause you're not supposed to do that.. it's because of the vigorish.. that's why gamblers lose. you cannot overcome the -110 no matter who you are or what you know.. i dont care if you are a sports encyclopedia, you will lose.
the only reason everyone loses is because they don't shop around for the best #.. that's it....even if you dont chase, have good money mgmt, you will still go broke. it's all about getting the best # possible on every game and take that team no matter how bad they are..
no matter how good a capper you think you are, you will lose.. every info you know is already applied into the line, so capping is 100% meaningless..bottom line, you don't beat the closer, YOU GO BROKE.
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B1GER1C828
SBR Posting Legend
07-31-07
10244
#9
Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
it has nothing to do with money mgmt. it's not because they dont bet same amounts on each game cause you're not supposed to do that.. it's because of the vigorish.. that's why gamblers lose. you cannot overcome the -110 no matter who you are or what you know.. i dont care if you are a sports encyclopedia, you will lose. the only reason everyone loses is because they don't shop around for the best #.. that's it....even if you dont chase, have good money mgmt, you will still go broke. it's all about getting the best # possible on every game and take that team no matter how bad they are.. no matter how good a capper you think you are, you will lose.. every info you know is already applied into the line, so capping is 100% meaningless..bottom line, you don't beat the closer, YOU GO BROKE.
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ronald
SBR MVP
10-31-05
4919
#10
Being on the sharp side is far more important than getting the best number.
Nicky you are more square than I thought.
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#11
Originally posted by ronald
Being on the sharp side is far more important than getting the best number.
Nicky you are more square than I thought.
I think you just won square of SBR with this post.. pls explain me that... i need to laugh.. so you're saying that there is something more important than consistently beating the closer??
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Extra Innings
SBR Posting Legend
02-26-10
15058
#12
Originally posted by firedawg
no need to bet same amount on all games............ stupid statement jj
Originally posted by ProfaneReality
sharps dont flat bet, come on guy
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ronald
SBR MVP
10-31-05
4919
#13
Yes there is Nicky. You are a carre.
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G's pks
Restricted User
01-01-09
22251
#14
JJ I bet one game today won...my day is over...
yesterday I bet one game...won my day was over...
Let me know how I am doing...
Maybe you could review your favorite prison game "spike the dick"....
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#15
Originally posted by ronald
Yes there is Nicky. You are a carre.
wait a sec, aren't you the same guy that posted 2 futures in bases, went 1-1 on them, then came in here and gloated telling everyone.. hey... i told you boys, TOR ov would win.. lol.. you mention the winner, but completely ignore the loser..
and you're calling me a square??
i'll tell you what... i will send 10k to SBR johnny, you do the same.. before each sharp side you talk about, put up the play here, with the right pinny closer.. and i will take any game you want to give me at 7 cents better than the closer and we'll do this for 300 games.. and lets see who ends up with a better record..
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Extra Innings
SBR Posting Legend
02-26-10
15058
#16
Can't win boys....can't win
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B1GER1C828
SBR Posting Legend
07-31-07
10244
#17
lol beating closers is by far the most important thing Ronald...your very wrong.
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blackbart
SBR MVP
12-04-07
3833
#18
If you are good enough to accurately predict your edge, then you dont have to flat bet.
[few are]
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Domer
SBR MVP
01-21-10
1046
#19
one of the sharpest guys i know put all his money into a safe deposit box over the course of 2 seasons
he finds his girlfriend is gone one day
he checks safe deposit box, she had taken over six figures in cash
true story
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polskboy
SBR MVP
01-29-10
1688
#20
Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
wait a sec, aren't you the same guy that posted 2 futures in bases, went 1-1 on them, then came in here and gloated telling everyone.. hey... i told you boys, TOR ov would win.. lol.. you mention the winner, but completely ignore the loser.. and you're calling me a square?? i'll tell you what... i will send 10k to SBR johnny, you do the same.. before each sharp side you talk about, put up the play here, with the right pinny closer.. and i will take any game you want to give me at 7 cents better than the closer and we'll do this for 300 games.. and lets see who ends up with a better record..
nicky was that you that make a phone call to bookmaker with jjgold??if it is then in that phone call the guy said that you are playing the"move" so you do play the steam or not???? i know you not playing the numbers at bookmaker they have one of the worst lines in the game 20 cent juice.... please explain.
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ronald
SBR MVP
10-31-05
4919
#21
Originally posted by B1GER1C828
lol beating closers is by far the most important thing Ronald...your very wrong.
Your eyes are empty.
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Sunde91
SBR Hall of Famer
11-26-09
8325
#22
1)Can't pick enough winners (obvious and implicit, but nothing else would matter if you could pick enough winners)
2)Poor MM (not that you have to flat bet)
3)Juice and bad lines/prices
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82840
#23
Main reason is you have to pick your spots to win. Bet the bad line or the line that will give you the biggest chance of winning your bet.
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-105
SBR High Roller
07-20-10
208
#24
Originally posted by Domer
one of the sharpest guys i know put all his money into a safe deposit box over the course of 2 seasons he finds his girlfriend is gone one day he checks safe deposit box, she had taken over six figures in cash true story
I'm spending the money with her, what an idiot trusting something that doesn't die after bleeding for days.
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#25
Originally posted by Domer
one of the sharpest guys i know put all his money into a safe deposit box over the course of 2 seasons
he finds his girlfriend is gone one day
he checks safe deposit box, she had taken over six figures in cash
true story
true story
straight from the movie Casino
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SamsNCharge99
SBR Aristocracy
10-22-08
41242
#26
they go on tilt
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#27
alot of you might not like to hear this, but its FACT..
gambling has NOTHING to do with being able to pick winners. that's right.. NOTHING..
gambling is all about #'s.. it's a #'s game and that's it.. gambling is MATHEMATICS.. whether you want to believe this or not, it's the TRUTH... no one can handicap winners and make money consistently in a lifetime by not getting the best # on every game, even if your name is JIMMY The Greek..
The top 20 baseball writers/specialists in america are all down an avg of 25 units this year in bases..
The top 20 NFL analysts/specialits (ESPN guys, MLB.com guys, etc...).. all are like 8-16 ATS this year.. and these guys are all the most knowledgeble NFL guys worldwide.
does this still make you think you can make money by just handicapping??
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82840
#28
Nicky you need to make your own numbers. I make my own numbers. If the book number is off I play it. No need to shop for numbers when your number is better than the book's number.
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#29
Nicky is right about this being a math game
Bookies been knowing this since Moses
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Mikail
SBR Posting Legend
07-19-09
21689
#30
No way. Betting the same game in and game out will always be a losing venue. Gotta pick your spots. Betting flat will never be successful because the juice will always beat you.
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Sunde91
SBR Hall of Famer
11-26-09
8325
#31
Nicky, explain to me how math and getting best line is more important than capping when 7% of the games end up within 3 points of the closing line. Not that getting the best line isn't important, but it's absurd to say it's more important than capping winners.
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obamaismyuncle
SBR Posting Legend
12-31-08
17801
#32
Most gamblers that hang out in Players Talk will go bust. These are facts. I'm not kidding.
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#33
Originally posted by pavyracer
Nicky you need to make your own numbers. I make my own numbers. If the book number is off I play it. No need to shop for numbers when your number is better than the book's number.
do you think if i made my own #'s.. that i would actually think that that my line will be more accurate than 200 linesmakers who sit there with computers and have 534,242 different things they look at that i dont? how can i even compete with that?
what will make me believe that my # will be right and all of these guys are wrong?? these guys do this for a living. do you have any idea how much research is put into making these lines.
i have an easier way and less time consuming.. why not just sit there and let them do all the hard work, and then i will just sit down with my hot chocolate, watch the screen and just bet anything that is off that. now isn't that much easier, and much more certain i am doing it right.
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gangeriver
SBR MVP
12-23-09
2138
#34
I think, main reasons are parlays, teasers and chalk straight plays. Esipecially teaser is for suckers. I can't understand why people buy points?
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#35
Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
Most gamblers that hang out in Players Talk will go bust. These are facts. I'm not kidding.
Its a learning experience
I've seen a bunch of kids (18-25yo) over the years come on the various forums who were going to become rich betting sports.