📢🏈 Bucs @ Eagles MNF *IN-GAME DISCUSSION* 📢🏈

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  • d2bets
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    • 08-10-05
    • 39994

    #106
    Originally posted by EmpireMaker
    Going for 2 is ONLY to manipulate the betting outcome !!!!!!
    Sure seemed like it.
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    • Str8Mush4Life
      SBR MVP
      • 11-25-13
      • 1030

      #107
      So what is the official rule on taunting?

      Can't get in another player's face, but Antonio Brown can get up screaming after every catch?
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      • carolinakid
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-12-11
        • 19106

        #108
        one thing for sure Dallas is the class of the east and nobody even close
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        • ThaTopMoron
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 04-30-10
          • 27020

          #109
          Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
          2h will the be trap in this game
          so at half Tampa looked like world beaters and the books put up tampa -.5 and low ML which both lose
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #110
            Originally posted by Str8Mush4Life
            So what is the official rule on taunting?

            Can't get in another player's face, but Antonio Brown can get up screaming after every catch?
            If AB screams in an opposing player or coaches face after a catch it will be taunting.
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            • KiDBaZkiT
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-20-09
              • 14962

              #111
              Somebody post the Rob Ryan Fukk yea!! Gif!!!!!!!!
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              • ArunSh
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-24-07
                • 6801

                #112
                Eagles +6.5, never in doubt!
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                • d2bets
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 39994

                  #113
                  Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                  Too bad they won’t take 3 knees. They could just back up for a few seconds each play before the knees and literally run out the rest of the game…
                  Do you even watch football, bro?
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                  • mtneer1212
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-22-08
                    • 4993

                    #114
                    I'd feel violated if I had the Bucs -6.5. I have Philly teased to +13, but man this is a bad loss for Buc backers.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #115
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                      • carolinakid
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-12-11
                        • 19106

                        #116
                        like i said before game, this was a very sharp line tonite
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                        • AribaAriba
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-03-09
                          • 2922

                          #117
                          For eagle backers this is a heavens gift. Down 21 and covering +7. Fuk ya!! Any guys im an sbr pro now *cheers.
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                          • ThaTopMoron
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 04-30-10
                            • 27020

                            #118
                            there is no manipulation in NFL games
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                            • wombat
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-23-20
                              • 1022

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Luv2Play2
                              THIS MIGHT turn out to be 1 of those gms where the book takes it in the AZZ.. ALL teasers cover..
                              Teasers make up less than 5% of total bets. Very miniscule. Books don't give af.
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                              • AribaAriba
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-03-09
                                • 2922

                                #120
                                Commentator were mentioning Bout segenerates worrying Bout the spread. They knownthe pt matters.
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                                • MarkMakers
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 11-17-19
                                  • 181

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by mtneer1212
                                  I'd feel violated if I had the Bucs -6.5. I have Philly teased to +13, but man this is a bad loss for Buc backers.
                                  I feel beyond violated. I’m just stunned and lost for words. I had -6.5
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                                  • vitterd
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 09-14-17
                                    • 58460

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                    Do you even watch football, bro?
                                    Yeah, 1st down and no timeouts at 2min warning is game over. Thought that was known
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                                    • pickle_texas
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-26-16
                                      • 750

                                      #123
                                      WTF
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                                      • ArunSh
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-24-07
                                        • 6801

                                        #124
                                        As lucky as it was to win Eagles +6.5 would have felt pretty bad losing at end if Bucs scored near the end there due perhaps in large part to that "taunting" penalty.
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                                        • pickle_texas
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-26-16
                                          • 750

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by carolinakid
                                          one thing for sure Dallas is the class of the east and nobody even close
                                          Facts
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                                          • Seattle Slew
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-02-06
                                            • 7373

                                            #126
                                            If Brate gets the first down on the 2nd down pass, Philly calls the last TO at 2:25, then 3 runs by Tampa around the 2-minute warning would have left about 20 seconds for the field goal or TD if they ran it in.

                                            Originally posted by mtneer1212
                                            I'd feel violated if I had the Bucs -6.5. I have Philly teased to +13, but man this is a bad loss for Buc backers.
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                                            • JayDr3am
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-06-14
                                              • 18260

                                              #127
                                              its disgusting how sharp the books are this year. wtf
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                                              • Cardsfan55
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 07-01-20
                                                • 498

                                                #128
                                                Feel very lucky to get the win there
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                                                • vitterd
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 09-14-17
                                                  • 58460

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by Seattle Slew
                                                  If Brate gets the first down on the 2nd down pass, Philly calls the last TO at 2:25, then 3 runs by Tampa around the 2-minute warning would have left about 20 seconds for the field goal or TD if they ran it in.
                                                  Yep. Matter of inches.
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                                                  • JayDr3am
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 05-06-14
                                                    • 18260

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Cardsfan55
                                                    Feel very lucky to get the win there
                                                    to go for 2 there is insane to me. obviously the eagles knew what the spread was.
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                                                    • Kermit
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 09-27-10
                                                      • 32555

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by JayDr3am
                                                      to go for 2 there is insane to me. obviously the eagles knew what the spread was.
                                                      Why would they care? A lot of people had it at 7. If they don't make the 2 pointer, everyone who bet on them loses.
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                                                      • d2bets
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 39994

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by Kermit
                                                        Why would they care? A lot of people had it at 7. If they don't make the 2 pointer, everyone who bet on them loses.
                                                        +7 doesn't win. 6.5 was the prevailing and closing line. I think that's what they had in mind as the line for the game and absolutely that's why they went for 2.
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                                                        • vitterd
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 09-14-17
                                                          • 58460

                                                          #133
                                                          Many coaches go for 2 now in that spot. They have been for about 3 years now. Not all but the younger coaches do.
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                                                          • Luv2Play2
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-24-10
                                                            • 2461

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by mtneer1212
                                                            I'd feel violated if I had the Bucs -6.5. I have Philly teased to +13, but man this is a bad loss for Buc backers.
                                                            i had ovr 1st 1/2 . ovr 2nd hlf & ovr gm.. WTF .. 1-2 FOR ME
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                                                            • Kermit
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 09-27-10
                                                              • 32555

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by d2bets
                                                              +7 doesn't win. 6.5 was the prevailing and closing line. I think that's what they had in mind as the line for the game and absolutely that's why they went for 2.
                                                              Bullshit. They don't give a fukk about the spread. You think the coach had 50k on the spread.

                                                              You conspiracy guys are nuts.
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                                                              • vitterd
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 09-14-17
                                                                • 58460

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                +7 doesn't win. 6.5 was the prevailing and closing line. I think that's what they had in mind as the line for the game and absolutely that's why they went for 2.
                                                                Nah. Nothing to do with the line there. You see it a lot these days with the younger coaches because they use numbers that tell them it’s the best play math wise to go for 2 there. I knew once they got down there he would do that in 4th quarter
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                                                                • xViperxX
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 06-08-21
                                                                  • 3

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by vitterd
                                                                  Nah. Nothing to do with the line there. You see it a lot these days with the younger coaches because they use numbers that tell them it’s the best play math wise to go for 2 there. I knew once they got down there he would do that in 4th quarter
                                                                  So how is LaLa Land these days?
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                                                                  • dhristov211
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-18-15
                                                                    • 2535

                                                                    #138
                                                                    going for 2 is what everyone will do in 50 years

                                                                    and what Staley the COTY does already today
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                                                                    • AribaAriba
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-03-09
                                                                      • 2922

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Ok guys, from my sharp observation. Going for 2 from the coachs view, they are 4 for 4 in the season for the 2 pt convert. So the likeness of going to get it is pretty hight. Also, i think they are playing to win on that game and not got.ot is what i think the coach were thingking. Winning a close game against the GOAT is a prrtty hard task. In the end, the nfl.parity is kicking in and the close drama game is what Nfl wantd as drama drive in tv ratings. Urs trully, sharp. Thanks
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                                                                      • semibluff
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-12-16
                                                                        • 1515

                                                                        #140
                                                                        The Eagles were correct to go for 2 on their last TD. The math on the 2 point conversion goes something like this - You're down 14 points with not long left in the 4th quarter. You need to score 2 TDs and have the other team not score. If that doesn't happen it doesn't matter what you do. If it does happen it comes down to math & game theory.

                                                                        Q) If the average chance of kicking the XP is 100% and the average change of converting the 2 point conversion is 38.2% which action gives you the best chance of winning?

                                                                        Kicking XPs will give you a 0% chance of winning in regulation, a 0% chance of losing in regulation and a 100% chance of going to OT.

                                                                        The alternative strategy is to go for 2 points on the 1st attempt and if you make it kick the 2nd XP. If you fail the 1st attempt you attempt it again on the 2nd TD. This strategy will result in you winning by 1 point in regulation 38.2% of the time, you will lose by 2 points in regulation 38.2% of the time, and you will got to OT 23.6% of the time.

                                                                        Teams are less than 100% on XPs and they are generally better than 38.2% on 2 point conversions. Thus they are better off going for 2 points in this specific situation. Essentially they are gambling away the chance to lose by 1 point for extra for additional chances to win. Over the long run the team would score fewer total points by going for 2 if they have a conversion rate of between 38.2% and 50% but they would have a higher winning %.
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