I had emailed a couple of the mods some rough details about a situation I am currently in and one had suggested posting the story in the forum may be my best route. I posted my situation in another forum and was told it was "bs" and like a "boring novel". I will do my best to condense it this time, but the reason I am posting this, is I just would like to see some of my money. To go from thinking your up some a large amount to not even having your initial amount back, its a horrible feeling.
On the 30th of last month I got a text from a buddy asking me if I wanted to bet on some games he knew of a bookie who took on high end clients. I do not consider myself a high roller by any means but anyway. I am 26 years old, and basically have gambled off and on since I was 18 but have run into problems with western union and money gram so really have not bet much the past few months. I was out of town at the time so I decided to give the guy a call.....
I didnt know what to expec, although I had dealt with bookies before it was always through somebody else....I called him up and he was really cool, I generally ask alot of questions and he answered them for the most part, to my surprise this wasnt a setup where I called him up to place all my bets, in fact, after telling him I wanted to proceed, he text messaged me about 5 minutes later with a user name and password that were to be used at a web site he provided me with, also there were toll free numbers to call if I wanted to place the bet over the telephone. I was given a credit balance of 10,000 and was told that you always pay up or get paid mon-weds, never any later.
I told him I generally start off betting smaller bets but am known to increase, he didnt press the issue on that but I figured that is why I was given the 10,000 limit.
The first week went down, and I was up close to 7,000 on that Sunday but ended up losing some big bets on the lakers when they played the spurs, and the clippers when they played the knicks later that evening....oh yeah and the freaking raptors when the warriors beat them at toronto! I ended up being down about 1,500. Of course I was pissed, but I didnt want anybody hunting me down or anything so I immediately made arrangements to pay the 1,500. I met the guy on weds at a location near my house, he seemed appreciative that I seeked them out for payment, telling me are relationship would be good, even asking if I had any other people to bring on board.
So for this next week I began hitting alot of plays and ended the week being up a balance of over 10,500. That Sunday night when all the games were over and the balances were to refresh I called the guy and asked him when we would be meeting, he said Weds would be the day......Tuesday night rolls around and I text him asking him the meeting time for Weds, he tells me he will get back to me on Weds. Weds rolls around, I dont hear from him, he says it will be Thursday, Thursday rolls around and I am getting uneasy, he tells me he is still waiting on money and he will hand deliver the money to me on Friday. A little later that evening I get a call from him saying his boss wants to talk to me......at this point I am owed the 10,500 and am up another 30,000 that week ( I was hitting and betting everything, I figured its house money, why not) I get a call from an out of state number basically telling me that I am not going to get a penny until they fly out to see me on a date that has now passed. They suspected me of being part of an elaborate scheme or.....betting over my head. He said he didnt like the way I paid mixing 100 dollar bills with 20s 10s and 5s, and he didnt like the way I started betting small and ended up being a dime player. Not going to lie I was pretty intimidated at the time, I mean, I have bet alot, but never had I had a problem getting paid. Honestly I thought this was all bull shit, I mean, if they had a problem with the way I was betting why didnt they call me out when I paid the 1,500?
Anyway, he told me that if I stopped betting at the time I would never see a penny, he would be flying out on the later date, and that everything would be cool. soooo, maybe being nieve I trusted him, I kept playing, ended that week up another 24,000 in addition to the 10,500 already owed and I played the following week having a losing week of about 3,000. All in all they owe me 31,000.
So the day came that I was supposed to see the boss.....nothing, no word, nothing. I hit up the local guy who took my money and what not and he says he has not heard anything. He starts to hit me with all this bull shit, that they think I am full of shit and am betting over my head, and I just have to wait it out and keep playing so they can feel safe with me.....sort of the same stuff that was said when I spoke to the boss.....
So here is the most recent update.......I saved the telephone number from the dude in washington and I reluctantly called it up.....I identified myself and they initially claimed I had the wrong number. I thought this was strange that a "higher up" would use somebody elses phone number to contact me on business as such. I knew something was fishy so after hanging up I texted the number and they told me "oh, a buddy of mine used the phone, I will relay the message". I call my local guy here in los angeles and tell him what happened and he said it is none of his business what numbers they call from or not. I tell him I think that its bull shit that they cal me out on paying in small bills when your alleged boss is calling from somebody elses telephone number. A day passes and the local los angeles guy says I ****ed up by calling the number and now everything is all ****ed up because the person I spoke with was an even bigger boss, im like wtf? Soon thereafter I get a call from another Washington DC area number, the same "higherup" I had spoken with before. He goes on to tell me he is calling me to talk to me as a man. He says that the bosses really were in california on the 25th to meet with 4 clients and he gave them my number to contact me but it appeared they would not. The bosses apparently said that the local guy in Los Angeles along with the dude I am talking to on the phone messed up by giving me such high limits (10 g a week) when all I was good for was 10 g to begin with. I dont fully grasp the logic, but anyways, thats what they said. They had mentioned that they were going to meet me and give me 10 grand and settle but at this point if they had not contacted me I was shit out of luck. I told him why the heck did you guys take my money then.....the day I paid the 1,500 I was already up 7,500 for that week and was playing big numbers....if my betting patterns were an issue why wasnt it called out at time of collection? He went on to say in his ten years of being in the business he had never seen anything like this and I was truely getting ****ed. He said the bosses are well connected and they dont give a **** about me. ummmm yeah ok, alot of good that does me. He told me I would get my 1,500 back from the local here in Los Angeles, and honestly, I came to terms with it for awhile that if I got the 1,500 I would take this as a lesson learned and move on......one problem.....I still do not have the 1,500.
Now honestly, I am not violent, I am a freaking school teacher but....I also happen to be a rapper too (yeah weird combo) and alot of people know whats going on and want to intervene at levels I am not comfortable with, the guy that put me in contact with this dude is heated. I have bet along time, and I have come up on some nice numbers, but never anything in this range, maybe it was stupid, but I honestly thought I was going to get paid, so what did I do, I ran up my credit card on some electronics, donations to cancer research, and shit to my car thats around 10,000, its all dandy and all but I was doing that with confidence I was getting paid....yeah, I know, big mistake. I was told that there is the possibility of selling the debt off? At this point that seems the most beneficial....I think I have quite a bit of information on the local guy here in Los Angeles to, to where even he himself would want to pay, even if he is just a middleman.......so can anybody guide me from here? Thanks, and I guess this did turn into a long novel.....my bad.
On the 30th of last month I got a text from a buddy asking me if I wanted to bet on some games he knew of a bookie who took on high end clients. I do not consider myself a high roller by any means but anyway. I am 26 years old, and basically have gambled off and on since I was 18 but have run into problems with western union and money gram so really have not bet much the past few months. I was out of town at the time so I decided to give the guy a call.....
I didnt know what to expec, although I had dealt with bookies before it was always through somebody else....I called him up and he was really cool, I generally ask alot of questions and he answered them for the most part, to my surprise this wasnt a setup where I called him up to place all my bets, in fact, after telling him I wanted to proceed, he text messaged me about 5 minutes later with a user name and password that were to be used at a web site he provided me with, also there were toll free numbers to call if I wanted to place the bet over the telephone. I was given a credit balance of 10,000 and was told that you always pay up or get paid mon-weds, never any later.
I told him I generally start off betting smaller bets but am known to increase, he didnt press the issue on that but I figured that is why I was given the 10,000 limit.
The first week went down, and I was up close to 7,000 on that Sunday but ended up losing some big bets on the lakers when they played the spurs, and the clippers when they played the knicks later that evening....oh yeah and the freaking raptors when the warriors beat them at toronto! I ended up being down about 1,500. Of course I was pissed, but I didnt want anybody hunting me down or anything so I immediately made arrangements to pay the 1,500. I met the guy on weds at a location near my house, he seemed appreciative that I seeked them out for payment, telling me are relationship would be good, even asking if I had any other people to bring on board.
So for this next week I began hitting alot of plays and ended the week being up a balance of over 10,500. That Sunday night when all the games were over and the balances were to refresh I called the guy and asked him when we would be meeting, he said Weds would be the day......Tuesday night rolls around and I text him asking him the meeting time for Weds, he tells me he will get back to me on Weds. Weds rolls around, I dont hear from him, he says it will be Thursday, Thursday rolls around and I am getting uneasy, he tells me he is still waiting on money and he will hand deliver the money to me on Friday. A little later that evening I get a call from him saying his boss wants to talk to me......at this point I am owed the 10,500 and am up another 30,000 that week ( I was hitting and betting everything, I figured its house money, why not) I get a call from an out of state number basically telling me that I am not going to get a penny until they fly out to see me on a date that has now passed. They suspected me of being part of an elaborate scheme or.....betting over my head. He said he didnt like the way I paid mixing 100 dollar bills with 20s 10s and 5s, and he didnt like the way I started betting small and ended up being a dime player. Not going to lie I was pretty intimidated at the time, I mean, I have bet alot, but never had I had a problem getting paid. Honestly I thought this was all bull shit, I mean, if they had a problem with the way I was betting why didnt they call me out when I paid the 1,500?
Anyway, he told me that if I stopped betting at the time I would never see a penny, he would be flying out on the later date, and that everything would be cool. soooo, maybe being nieve I trusted him, I kept playing, ended that week up another 24,000 in addition to the 10,500 already owed and I played the following week having a losing week of about 3,000. All in all they owe me 31,000.
So the day came that I was supposed to see the boss.....nothing, no word, nothing. I hit up the local guy who took my money and what not and he says he has not heard anything. He starts to hit me with all this bull shit, that they think I am full of shit and am betting over my head, and I just have to wait it out and keep playing so they can feel safe with me.....sort of the same stuff that was said when I spoke to the boss.....
So here is the most recent update.......I saved the telephone number from the dude in washington and I reluctantly called it up.....I identified myself and they initially claimed I had the wrong number. I thought this was strange that a "higher up" would use somebody elses phone number to contact me on business as such. I knew something was fishy so after hanging up I texted the number and they told me "oh, a buddy of mine used the phone, I will relay the message". I call my local guy here in los angeles and tell him what happened and he said it is none of his business what numbers they call from or not. I tell him I think that its bull shit that they cal me out on paying in small bills when your alleged boss is calling from somebody elses telephone number. A day passes and the local los angeles guy says I ****ed up by calling the number and now everything is all ****ed up because the person I spoke with was an even bigger boss, im like wtf? Soon thereafter I get a call from another Washington DC area number, the same "higherup" I had spoken with before. He goes on to tell me he is calling me to talk to me as a man. He says that the bosses really were in california on the 25th to meet with 4 clients and he gave them my number to contact me but it appeared they would not. The bosses apparently said that the local guy in Los Angeles along with the dude I am talking to on the phone messed up by giving me such high limits (10 g a week) when all I was good for was 10 g to begin with. I dont fully grasp the logic, but anyways, thats what they said. They had mentioned that they were going to meet me and give me 10 grand and settle but at this point if they had not contacted me I was shit out of luck. I told him why the heck did you guys take my money then.....the day I paid the 1,500 I was already up 7,500 for that week and was playing big numbers....if my betting patterns were an issue why wasnt it called out at time of collection? He went on to say in his ten years of being in the business he had never seen anything like this and I was truely getting ****ed. He said the bosses are well connected and they dont give a **** about me. ummmm yeah ok, alot of good that does me. He told me I would get my 1,500 back from the local here in Los Angeles, and honestly, I came to terms with it for awhile that if I got the 1,500 I would take this as a lesson learned and move on......one problem.....I still do not have the 1,500.
Now honestly, I am not violent, I am a freaking school teacher but....I also happen to be a rapper too (yeah weird combo) and alot of people know whats going on and want to intervene at levels I am not comfortable with, the guy that put me in contact with this dude is heated. I have bet along time, and I have come up on some nice numbers, but never anything in this range, maybe it was stupid, but I honestly thought I was going to get paid, so what did I do, I ran up my credit card on some electronics, donations to cancer research, and shit to my car thats around 10,000, its all dandy and all but I was doing that with confidence I was getting paid....yeah, I know, big mistake. I was told that there is the possibility of selling the debt off? At this point that seems the most beneficial....I think I have quite a bit of information on the local guy here in Los Angeles to, to where even he himself would want to pay, even if he is just a middleman.......so can anybody guide me from here? Thanks, and I guess this did turn into a long novel.....my bad.
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