Bookie wont pay up.....input please

[krk1030]

tl;dr

[Karayilan9]

That money is gone, get over it and learn from your mistakes. Nobody here can say or do anything that will get it back, the only thing you can do is turn up at his yard with some muscle with some meat cleavers, bats and firearms and put the pressure on, then he will pay up.

But if you were going to do this you would have already and wouldn't be needed to be told this sh*t, you make think that doing all that to a guy is harsh, well that's the world you got yourself into. If your not up to it just forget it there is no other way you will see a penny.

[laclippers504]

I just think that there is a huge double standard, I fully realize going into this there is no legal protection to get my money, but I also know if I would have been down 5 or 10 grand, of even never paid the initial 1,500 that I lost I would have had somebody knocking my door down.

[THE PROFIT]

I just think that there is a huge double standard, I fully realize going into this there is no legal protection to get my money, but I also know if I would have been down 5 or 10 grand, of even never paid the initial 1,500 that I lost I would have had somebody knocking my door down.

how is this a double standard? It's only a double standard if you're a pussy and let this guy take your money. Like you said, do you think he would have let you fuk him out of money???

When he met you that night he must have smelled the fishy odor coming from your crotch & knew you were an easy target. You need to grow a set of nuts, people like you in this world is why there's people like him

[2daBank]

how is this a double standard? It's only a double standard if you're a pussy and let this guy take your money. Like you said, do you think he would have let you fuk him out of money???

When he met you that night he must have smelled the fishy odor coming from your crotch & knew you were an easy target. You need to grow a set of nuts, people like you in this world is why there's people like him

...fuk i smell it through my pc

[laclippers504]

Maybe so....but I'm not the one going around ripping people off for a living, maybe I never see a penny.....but one day they will get it. And fyi, the double standard exists in the fact that they have no problem and fully expect to be paid in full when money is do, but apparently only pay out when they deem it worth their while.

[excel]

Bet it all until you are negative balance and then let them try and collect from you.

[THE PROFIT]

Maybe so....but I'm not the one going around ripping people off for a living, maybe I never see a penny.....but one day they will get it. And fyi, the double standard exists in the fact that they have no problem and fully expect to be paid in full when money is do, but apparently only pay out when they deem it worth their while.

ok, they have a double standard, so what. Its your job to see that doesnt happen. People will shit on you if you let them. You are a trip my friend. There's no help for you, just drop this subject. You aren't willing to do anything to get your money. Do you think this guy gives a fuk about you? You are just another puss he took for money & is gonna let him. I admire him, easy fukin money!

[wtf]

Maybe so....but I'm not the one going around ripping people off for a living, maybe I never see a penny.....but one day they will get it. And fyi, the double standard exists in the fact that they have no problem and fully expect to be paid in full when money is do, but apparently only pay out when they deem it worth their while.

I hope you appreciate what the profit is doing here

he is trying to motivate you TO DO SOMETHING, other than typing on a keyboard

[konck]

Oh you bet with Tony Toilets

[Al Masters]

Have you filed a complaint with SBR,all kidding aside,send poster Pimike a PM,apparently he specializes in these types of cases.

[THE PROFIT]

I once had a guy that i thought I knew fairly well, steal my furniture. I moved out of an apartment and was gonna get a storage unit, but he told me I could store it in his uncles house which was empty. About 2 months later this fuk gets in trouble with a bookie so he sells half of it & then loads the rest up & leaves the state.

Not only did I find him, get the furniture he had, but got the furniture he sold, and no, I didnt buy my furniture from them. After I tracked him down in Alabama, I took a few pics of him on my digital after I loaded the stuff up. When I went to the people he sold it to, I showed them a pic & asked them if this guy had sold them any furniture in the last couple months. When their eyes got real big, I apologized & showed them a before this mornin' pic, then I had no problem gettin' my stuff

[laclippers504]

I get what your saying, and getting my money, just the 1,500 at this point is going to be a stretch. I'll admit, I've been a duck out of water at certain points, and coming on forums posting my incident I hoped would provide me insight what to do, and it has. Was I prepared for this? Definitely not. I could easily knock on this guys door right now with a shot gun and ask for my money, and if he refuses take anything that even has the least bit monetary value....but its not me and I know that's not the suggestion. I'm just trying all avenues to try and collect at this point. I know its my problem and nobody will truly really care, but I've gathered quite a bit of information at least on the local guy himself to where I could make life uncomfortable, but at the same time, I'm also trying to limit negative ramifications for myself. Anyway, I get what your say Profit, and its appreciated.

[THE PROFIT]

clipp, I know you're in a bad spot here, and sorry if I've been harsh. But you have only one option. When you are dealing with illegal enterprises there is no insurance on your money, it's not secured by FDIC. YOU are the insurance. I've been dealing with unpleasant people most my life, you have to be unpleasant back or they will shit on you & laugh about it. Just the facts. You take care of this motherless fukin whore & you will set the rules from now on

[gambleballs]

PPH is ruining the credit bookmaking industry

[THE PROFIT]

PPH is ruining the credit bookmaking industry

I would never use a bookie that worked PPH. I've had the same bookie for years & he's the most honest person I know, & the only person I know who has never ever told me a lie

[THEGREAT30]

quit gambling, good day

[THE PROFIT]

He's never told me he knows for sure what happens when you die or there is a santa claus, so that makes him automatically 10 times more trustworthy than any preacher & my parents

[oldtim]

What website did he give You to place your bets?

[2daBank]

He's never told me he knows for sure what happens when you die or there is a santa claus, so that makes him automatically 10 times more trustworthy than any preacher & my parents

i knew there was i reason we got along, i been saying that shit for long as i can remember

[THE PROFIT]

i knew there was i reason we got along, i been saying that shit for long as i can remember

[2daBank]

some times in life you gotta stand up and take what is yours by any means necessary

[THE PROFIT]

exactly, 2da! And when you're dealing with things outside of the law you have to deal with the problems that occur outside of the law. If you don't understand this going in, then go to work, pay your taxes, & drive the speed limit & quit gambling

[2daBank]

the good news laclips is once you pop your cherry the shit gets easier and you learn to except it as part of life, if that doesnt help the other good news is once you have established you are willing to go the extra mile the times you will actually have to do this will reduce significantly

[laclippers504]

You are right profit. I know this does not guarantee I get my money by any means, but a guy at another forum has been helping me out quite a bit and he got me the contact information for the guy that owns the site I have been logging into to place my bets, so hopefully that is the start. I would figure if they do have people that are actually handling business accordingly they would not want there name to get smashed all over the internet, right?

[THE PROFIT]

clip, you dont understand how this works. Lets say 2da is a bookie, just a local bookie, who is tired of having to be home all day on the weekends taking phonecalls. He has a huge client base, but being a bookie gives him no free time. He hooks up with me, I own a website called a pph (pay per head) that is basically nothing more than sportsbook software where no money is exchanged. If 2da has 300 clients, I charge him a certain amount per client & he gives them a password, they log on & make bets on my site 24/7, but as far as money goes, I have nothing to do with that. I give betting options & manage a figure for each client. The money is still up to him. I have 50 bookies I do this for and as long as they pay me I dont give a fuk what he does, its not my concern. So you calling me serves no purpose whatsoever. The bookie fuked you. What do I have to say to make you understand this??? There is no boss, there is no organization, like I said, if there was he wouldn't be mentioning it. Wise up

[laclippers504]

I do get it, but would you want the site you owned smashed all over the internet? What about potential agents? I doubt they would want to affiliate with somebody that is known to work with individuals thats stiff others. Maybe this is mainstream logic, but I think it makes sense none the less. You dont agree?

clip, you dont understand how this works. Lets say 2da is a bookie, just a local bookie, who is tired of having to be home all day on the weekends taking phonecalls. He has a huge client base, but being a bookie gives him no free time. He hooks up with me, I own a website called a pph (pay per head) that is basically nothing more than sportsbook software where no money is exchanged. If 2da has 300 clients, I charge him a certain amount per client & he gives them a password, they log on & make bets on my site 24/7, but as far as money goes, I have nothing to do with that. I give betting options & manage a figure for each client. The money is still up to him. I have 50 bookies I do this for and as long as they pay me I dont give a fuk what he does, its not my concern. So you calling me serves no purpose whatsoever. The bookie fuked you. What do I have to say to make you understand this??? There is no boss, there is no organization, like I said, if there was he wouldn't be mentioning it. Wise up

[oldtim]

What website did he give You to place your bets?

bump

[THE PROFIT]

I do get it, but would you want the site you owned smashed all over the internet? What about potential agents? I doubt they would want to affiliate with somebody that is known to work with individuals thats stiff others. Maybe this is mainstream logic, but I think it makes sense none the less. You dont agree?

no, I don't agree. You have to understand, this guys site is marketed to bookies. As long as the guy has up to date software & takes care of his bookies his site is golden. He has no idea what goes on between you & the bookie, he is a separate entity all together & knows nothing of any money. You are wasting your time because the site has less than nothing to do with your situation.

If you went to buy a car at xyz motors & you financed it through abc bank, and didnt make the payments & the repo man came to get your car, xyz motors can't help you as they know nothing about the financial matters. They just have an inventory where you choose your car. The bank is where your financing is & they're the only person that can resolve the problem.

No offense, but I really don't think you're a teacher, at least I hope not

[THE PROFIT]

This site is just an extension of your bookie. It is a service your bookie is giving you to be able to bet 24/7 and maybe even have casino games so he can take more of your money. Understand???

If you have a shit bookie or a great bookie, the site is the same for everyone

[Holtgetsback]

they don't care about you laclippers504

you they're gonna pay you 20 grand cuz some guy who uses their lil play site stiffed you

welcome to the business

[Huskie]

My favorite tactic is this program I have that spams his phone with text messages. ****er can't use his phone as long as it keeps getting lit up with incoming texts.

[yahoonino]

ok clippers, I'm glad you gave us the condensed version!!!

There's so much I have to say about this situation. Obviously, you got fuked, but it's because you dealt with someone you don't know. Never do that! As I've said before, I choose bookies more in depth than I would a babysitter. When he gave you a $10,000 limit & doesn't know you, that's the biggest red flag EVER! He doesn't care how much you win because he's not paying you anyway. This is pretty much your fault man, you got conned, that's all.

There is no boss, no underboss, no meetings flying from DC to LA, the guy you talked to was his brother-in-law, and now they are laughing like hell over your $1,500. Life is not like the Sopranos, jump into reality.

Now, if it was me, this is where it would be a little like the Sopranos. The part where I go to his house when he's alone, no wife, kids, etc..& knock him the **** out & rob him of anything of value in his house. I would shoot his left kneecap, & tell him to call the cops if he wants to lose his right one. I would fuk this guy up. That's your only option.

He's not gonna call the cops, because he's obviously involved in some illegal activity that they are clamping down on pretty hard right now. Plus you have just ramsacked his house so you've probably found some other interesting stuff to tell the feds other than his wannabe Gambino crime family stories.

I have been in a few situations like this myself, not over this much money though. I thought I might have overreacted a few times over $4-6,000. I cant imagine what I would do over double digits.

you made a bad decision, but he still owes you. Go see him & tell him you will work with him on a payment plan, his level of co-operation would then determine the level of agony he will be spending the rest of 2010 & the biggest part of 2011 in. Just cover your tracks & don't be stupid

very well said

[laclippers504]

daddywager.com

[paco]

some times in life you gotta stand up and take what is yours by any means necessary

Great quote by the Great Malcolm X