162 games to play a best of 5?

[EJandV]

I tend to think it is the better play when that happens more than not .
I know the other reasons why it could not work in my favor and I am in the blind to the facts of what is really going on at the time with who the (so called) wiser money is on , Big Money Grip dropping 100 grand on the Rockies for example ...etc

In all reality these mlb games I dont feel anyone knows the outcome so the so called wise money is no different than our next door neighbors 20$ straight bet on the ............

[Willie Bee]

Because they would have game 1 on Monday, game 2 on Tuesday, and game 3 on Wednesday... right? The problem is that the divisional series starts on Wednesday. The only way to do it would be to have a doubleheader on Monday with game 3 (if necessary) on Tuesday... Then they would have to start the next series on Wednesday? The winner's whole pitching staff would be so tired they may as well forfeit the divisional series...

And yet one ALDS series doesn't start until Thursday, so why couldn't an NLDS series begin Thursday as well? Applying your reasoning, i.e., just using the present schedule, would also make a best of seven 'logistically impossible as well, right? The LCS round would be starting a day or two or three too soon to get in a best of seven series.

[old threads]

Baseball needs to have a shorter season. The 5-game series in the 1st round is just right.

[fearless]

And yet one ALDS series doesn't start until Thursday, so why couldn't an NLDS series begin Thursday as well? Applying your reasoning, i.e., just using the present schedule, would also make a best of seven 'logistically impossible as well, right? The LCS round would be starting a day or two or three too soon to get in a best of seven series.

Even if they moved the schedule around, the team that wins the wild card will end up losing because their pitchers are almost sure to be out of gas by the time the divisional round starts. That team will probably have their fourth or fifth starter pitching game one of the the divisional series and it will be very tough after that...

[fearless]

I tend to think it is the better play when that happens more than not .
I know the other reasons why it could not work in my favor and I am in the blind to the facts of what is really going on at the time with who the (so called) wiser money is on , Big Money Grip dropping 100 grand on the Rockies for example ...etc

In all reality these mlb games I dont feel anyone knows the outcome so the so called wise money is no different than our next door neighbors 20$ straight bet on the ............

I've never thought of it like that, thanks.

[Willie Bee]

Even if they moved the schedule around, the team that wins the wild card will end up losing because their pitchers are almost sure to be out of gas by the time the divisional round starts.

Interesting. So playing a single game and letting the staff aces go an extra game won't cause extra taxing of their arms, but if the #2 and #3 starters have to pitch an extra game, then it's all over but the crying

Isn't adding extra games to the first round, making it a best of seven, going to wear out those #2 and #3 arms as well? And I thought the purpose of best of seven was to guarantee the best team won, not the team with just the best 1-2-3 starters

[EJandV]

Tricky minds make bank :

I've never thought of it like that, thanks.

The shady people working at online sportsbooks that move the lines up and down and around and up and down inside out and back to up and down like they lost their minds ?

Who are these mfers ? we dont know who they are , what they are about . I betcha they are about as tricky as a 3 card molly specialist . Is their job to get over and make as much money as possible for their company . For all the unbelievers and twist up artists >>> is common sense and illogical to think they are fine with the vig (people want to be wealthy) .

These people to me are no different than lets say the poker players that sit beside you trying to trick you , bluff you and take your money . ALL THE WHILE YOU ARE UNKNOWING PERHAPS TO THEIR TRICKS .

This game here ? Sports wagering ? Its' no different except most times we dont ever know the real reason for the lines moving like we do with the guy bluffing with nothing betting 20 grand like he has the flush ...........

[fearless]

Interesting. So playing a single game and letting the staff aces go an extra game won't cause extra taxing of their arms, but if the #2 and #3 starters have to pitch an extra game, then it's all over but the crying

Isn't adding extra games to the first round, making it a best of seven, going to wear out those #2 and #3 arms as well? And I thought the purpose of best of seven was to guarantee the best team won, not the team with just the best 1-2-3 starters

Fine. If that's not enough, then what about the rest factor... the team that has to play three extra games to get into the playoffs will be an unfair disadvantage compared to the other three teams in the playoffs.

I mean this team will have to play with playoff level intensity for weeks before the wild card playoff series. Then they'll have to play win the wild card playoff series and if that goes three, they'll probably not even have a day off going into the divisional series. In a normal year you would get this wild card team playing against a team like the Angels who have been resting for like a week meanwhile the wild card team will probably have playing at all out stress levels with no days off for probably two weeks... It's so unfair that it can't even be considered, imho.

[Blister]

Blister likes it best of 5. Blister all ways knows what is best and best of 5 is best.

[Willie Bee]

Fine. If that's not enough, then what about the rest factor... the team that has to play three extra games to get into the playoffs will be an unfair disadvantage compared to the other three teams in the playoffs.

I mean this team will have to play with playoff level intensity for weeks before the wild card playoff series. Then they'll have to play win the wild card playoff series and if that goes three, they'll probably not even have a day off going into the divisional series.

Maybe if that team didn't dick around the first five months of the season they wouldn't be put into that situation.

One question: Do you think both the Rockies and Diamondbacks are better teams than the New York Mets?

[Jelly Phillips]

Leave it alone.

[fearless]

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[fearless]

Maybe if that team didn't dick around the first five months of the season they wouldn't be put into that situation.

One question: Do you think both the Rockies and Diamondbacks are better teams than the New York Mets?

Probably not. What do you think?

[EJandV]

They even go as far as to make a team -177 for example when they think that team has a nice chance of losing .
Like Word Association is a powerful brainwashing tool to influence ones thinking , so is the # association thing .

They know about the psychology of how people think with pure eyeball to screen action .

What is truly funny about this is that while people would deny they fall into these categories of being influenced in forms such as these , it can be a subconscious thing occuring , like the hidden messages in commercials ....... subliminal shi# .

[fearless]

They even go as far as to make a team -177 for example when they think that team has a nice chance of losing .
Like Word Association is a powerful brainwashing tool to influence ones thinking , so is the # association thing .

They know about the psychology of how people think with pure eyeball to screen action .

What is truly funny about this is that while people would deny they fall into these categories of being influenced in forms such as these , it can be a subconscious thing occuring , like the hidden messages in commercials ....... subliminal shi# .

Absolutely. I've met guys in Vegas who told me about trapped games and how the oddsmaker's favorite trap numbers are -1, -2.5, and -5.5. Now, I've found that those are favorite numbers for traps but they'll also disguise great plays with those trap numbers so that people will bet against excellent bets because they've been trained to do it. This very thing kept me from betting on the Colts in their opener against the Saints. They were a -5.5 favorite, I hate that number. It's purely psychological and has nothing to do with the game at hand, I've been trained, haven't we all?

[EJandV]

Tricks dreamt up by masters !!!

Absolutely. I've met guys in Vegas who told me about trapped games and how the oddsmaker's favorite trap numbers are -1, -2.5, and -5.5. Now, I've found that those are favorite numbers for traps but they'll also disguise great plays with those trap numbers so that people will bet against excellent bets because they've been trained to do it. This very thing kept me from betting on the Colts in their opener against the Saints. They were a -5.5 favorite, I hate that number. It's purely psychological and has nothing to do with the game at hand, I've been trained, haven't we all?

Absolutely !!! whole numbers vs even and odd numbers , the hooks added when in reality it will most likely not come into play . To actually know these truths can be a great advantage.
The 5.5 you are speaking of is the silliest spread of all time !
It is so silly I cannot find any adequate adjectives for it .
Is like a spread to create a logjam within the brain when in all probablity the 5.5 will never come into play . ADD: I must add the score could be 21 - 16 lmao

[Willie Bee]

Probably not. What do you think?

What I think is irrelevant. But if you think the Mets are the better team, yet could not prove that over 162 games, then how do you think any team can prove they are better by playing a best of seven instead of a best of five?

[fearless]

What I think is irrelevant.

That's what a message board is all about. Without our opinions, this place is nothing.

But if you think the Mets are the better team, yet could not prove that over 162 games, then how do you think any team can prove they are better by playing a best of seven instead of a best of five?

Good point. Your thinking here would revolutionize sports. Why even have playoffs then? I've never thought of it like this. Good point.

[Willie Bee]

Good point. Your thinking here would revolutionize sports. Why even have playoffs then? I've never thought of it like this. Good point.

Son, don't put words into my mouth. I have a hard enough time with my own words, much less having to defend yours. I never said anything about just doing away with the playoffs. Arguing against increasing the length of the LDS round is not an argument to do away with ALL playoff games.

[EJandV]

Actually what you guys are talking about can be broken down with the quickness >>> because one man can in fact blow a game for a team , in effect we can not say one team is better than the other just because Hoffman missed with his location and blew the save or because one of the Mets hitters was in a slump during a key stretch .

The whole team has to take the fall for 1 man but if we really look at it , we know if the Mets were to play today at 3pm they may get hot , win and never lose again until the middle of april 08 next year .
Teams get hot at certain times , a man blows it , an umpire blows it .
I cant really say with confidence one team is better than another team , esp since the starting pitcher can win the game by himself like a tennis player , boxer or golfer .

You can say they were better on tues , but what about when they play on sunday , different team may show up with an ace or even a no name pitcher being unhittable for 7 inn ?

[Willie Bee]

An individual can muck it up for a group over the course of one game or one season in any team sport. An individual can also rise above his own 'normal playing level' and carry a team for a day or a week or a month. Hoffman's pitch might have been up, a little too fat, but it also took the hitter's hand-eye coordination to take advantage of the pitch. I've also seen pitchers throw a ball down around Vladimir Guerrero's ankles, exactly where the pitcher wanted the pitch to go, and Vlad golfs it out. This is the nature of all team sports, so regardless of how long you extended any single round of a playoff series in any team sport, this is going to happen. Expecting it happen less frequently because you add more games to the slate doesn't really add up to me.

[EJandV]

Right WB , the results for this experiment would simply be totaly up in the air with each matchup being broken down individually .
We would not know who would jump out the gate on fire first with the other team needing more games to comeback on the fast (even lucky) teams great start out the gate .

Indians could win the 1st 2 as the dog so we would think damn the Yanks needed this to be a 7 game ....

While the fav Rsox sould come out smokin and one might say damn the Angles would have a great shot of advancing if it was a 7 game ............... so literally it can work both ways .

People just tend to think the beast team (whoever the hell that is lmao ) starting out bad should be a more acceptable occurence and made up for by an extended series giving the big fav a chance to regroup and comeback , win theseries they are supposed to , then truly show they are the best winning it all !!!

[etothep]

the baseball season is already far too long in my opinion, so the idea of adding any games to any portion of the season is absolutely ludicrous to me, they need to cut it down to at least 140 games, if not more, and have a 3 game division series, 5 game lcs and at most 7 game world series

if you just want to see the best team when, then why play the games at all? lets just hand the world series to the team who looks the best on paper, and is, therefore, the best team

[EJandV]

-166 = Bad Luck To Most

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[EJandV]

The +113 on the Cubs is to throw me off in clicking the Cubs plus 113 because this game can go either way like flicking a switch . They want me to click the DBacks .
The +147 and the -147 on the Phils game is to make one think its is anyones game , (to plant the word even ) suggesting this is a tossup to throw me off an easy winner in the Phillies today . 7 is a hook placed in the odds (to suggest) lucky <<<

[EJandV]

now the Phils are -155 and Rockies are +145 . WHY ? now +143 and - 143 , because they are trying to create the impression that this is an even matchup today .

2:45 pm Phils line still dropping , now at +139 and -149 , still the 10 dollar difference on this game as well as all 4 mlb playoff games . Creates an even feeling about these games , they dont know who will win but still they have a strategy to make people make moves in the best possible scenario for the biggest profit for the BOOK .

2:52 pm phils - 147 Rockies +137 I clicked the Phils at 2:24 pm at -157 , these mfers are dirty strategists at best . They dont fool me <<<

line is now -145 and +145 at 2:54 pm -130 to take the over 9 .