Lets debate how we should address very active posters

[BadNina]

What is deemed too much posting though?

Someone's opinion.

Although it is usually pretty obvious to see. I have seen guys bragging about having over 300 post a day. I think I do well to have a 1000 within 3 months. Much less 3 days.

[stingray14]

I don't expect my response to be very popular and that is ok. We have the sub-forums for individual sports and other specific topics and then we have Players Talk which may or may not have been created originally for all to come together to talk about all sports in general or not. What it obviously became was the one area where everything sports and non-sports related woud all come together. Every forum has it's on variation of Players Talk regardless of what it's called. SBR's Players Talk forum is the single best forum anywhere out there and it is such because of the various posters that culminate here.

Personally there are posters in Players Talk that I don't agree with or even like. There are posters here that I refuse to read or respond to. There ABSOLUTELY are posters that flood the forum with useless threads and or contribute nothing to Players Talk but that is my personal opinion and one which others may not agree with.

What it comes down to is Players Talk is already the best and while we tend to always want to make something better sometimes we need to just let things be.

Just my opinion and in no way is meant to reflect or influence the opinions of others.

cant please everyone all the time......leave well enough alone

[Powderguy]

I don't see this new idea going very well at all.

[BadNina]

But did anyone notice how right I was with my last statement?

[jjgold]

Here are some issues some of these suggestions are going to run into.

1) If you limit the amount of post that people can make, then obviously they will go elsewhere to post. People like to chat/bs/however you want to say it and they are going to. Here or there....makes no difference. As was pointed out, there were people "power posting" prior to the points so that makes that irrelevent.

2) having the mods reward good post: Too subjective due to the fact that the mods have their favorites and are biased. I mean come on...Willie Bee obviously loves me more than any one of you. Whereas General Pete makes it clear he wishes I would be swallowed up in a cyber black hole. And Loubert's disdain for all female posters other than Teela has been bumped too many times to count. Poor Plommer had a thread moved to PZ just cause he started it. He posted nothing offensive but due to the fact that someone with some power doesn't like him, it was moved.

3) Try listening to people. I have seen countless threads asking for someone to deal wthi Whatsgood in regards to his point scamming and then bragging about it. I have seen numerous threads with people asking about how did sammy only get a week ban after forum booking, ghosting, scamming with said ghost with points and in contests and no one gets any answers. Even the standard "We are looking into this serious matter" is better than nothing.

Personally, I hope you leave things as they are cause more pressure to babysit these so called adults just make Willie Bee cranky and I love him too much to want to see that happen to him.

What are the odds I don't get a "Your opinion is always appreciated, Nina"?

Your best post in your career here

[DOMINATER]

Leave things alone, nothings broken, Hitler would have taken Russia in 1943 he was going to the oil fields to take them over, and started to outhink himself , and what happened everything unraveled from that point on, the polnt is don't try to fix something that works mho.

[BadNina]

thank you JJ. That means a lot.

[Fippy]

Why don't you make a useful ignore feature, simply hiding all posts *and* threads of that person instead of showing "you cannot see this blah blah because blah blah is on your ignore list". Also add an ignore button on the left, where that challenge me crap is...that is all i would need. Stop trying to invent the wheel, just improve this.

[pico]

one post per day

[wal66]

Nina we appreciate your opinion.

Nina we would appreciate some scantly clad pics of yourself even more though.

[whatsgood5]

We have a solution. Bill vetoed limiting post counts as too harsh considering the circumstances. So the solution he agreed on will be as follows; We will set up 2 new user groups in the forum backend for mods; Power Poster5 and Power Poster10. The concept is quite simple actually. If the mods feel a poster is over the top he can designate that poster as a Power Poster5. This simply means the poster will have to wait 5 minutes in between posts. This is simple and measured. If the poster continues to post at the max rate and is deemed to be over posting he will be changed to Power Poster10 which will require him to wait 10 minutes between post. The thinking is to take baby steps that can be modified if necessary. The goal is to find the solution with the least amount of limitations.

This seems fair, but what is actually meant by "over the top"? Just wanna know so I'm not being "over the top"...

Does it mean if I spend 10 hours on here, and make 400 meaningful posts, that's "over the top"?

Or does it mean when someone like ttaylor spends 2 hours on here and makes 200 posts that don't mean shit, that's "over the top"?

[flyingillini]

Sounds good to me, orale guey, bruta califas por vida!

[yisman]

put the spammers on point restriction. There are three real spammers, so it won't be a lot of work.

[SBR_John]

put the spammers on point restriction. There are three real spammers, so it won't be a lot of work.

That was discussed. I think those who run the forum do not want anything drastic arguing there is always time to look at modifying. As it was explained to me, I honestly think this is a good and fair solution. As some have said these power posters are somewhat harmless. There is no need to hammer them. Lets put in a soft solution and go from there. But I do think this will be enough and even the power posters will agree its fair.

[EmpireMaker]

limit it to 1 bonus for 1000 posts per month

[bobbyfk]

I don't see this new idea going very well at all.

agree 1000000%

[Extra Innings]

Call me Crazy.....I'd just give the over-active posters 25 points to not post beyond a certain daily limit.

[bobbyfk]

how will you decide who goes into what grouping John?

[flyingillini]

I can't wait until posters start saying that it is because of the points. That posters are earning a lot of points and costing the company. I know that is not the case but there will be posters that will hammer that idea. Orale guey.

[odusmykal]

Hey, i just wanted to be included in this thread.. Nothing important to add.. Thanks..

[hhsilver]

could the phase "power poster" be retired. It confuses me. The word power usually has, or should have, a positive connotation.

[big joe 1212]

if posters are power posting just to get a few points for every thousand, they need to look themselves in the mirror and figure out a way to be more productive in life!

[MastaB]

John there are so few guys that power post to 1000 for 25 point....that it is not worth putting a restriction accross the bored, unless its on the very high end, specifically to stop someone from binge posting. I think this is because posters like whatsgood5 are in a very very small minority. I cant think of anyone else litterally posting 500 times per day. Guys like whatsgood can be limit on a case to case bases, and SBR could impose posting restrictions when and if they felt necessary. This resrictions could also be lifted after a given amount of time or be lifted on SBRs discretion.

or

If someone is over posting and stirring things up on the board, you could send out a vote and give everyone a week to respond. This would be very diplomatic and improve morale at the board and it would also act as a self policing mechanism. Guys like whatsgood5 could stay but i would vote to limit his posting to 100 post in players talk per day, he could also do 50 in every other subforum, but his maximum per day would be capped somewhere around 300-450 posts per day overall. I would also vote to have his points privilege revoked.

The latter would be my top choice

[eidolon]

Instead of points every 1000 posts. Maybe change it to: 10 points a month for people who post over 100 post during that month. 20 points for over 500 posts. and 30 points for over 1000 posts a month. Seems like it would keep people active month2month, and it would cap the power posters from month to month (the points-2-posts per month can be varied to what would work best).

I really don't see too many people posting just to post. Just a select few like ttaylor: posting different smiley's 5 times in a row in some threads. So maybe there could be a limit of how many posts you can do every 5 or 10 minutes? I don't post very much, so I don't know what a good limit would be. 3 posts per 5min? 5p/10min? Seems like there would be less and more substance in posts.

[MastaB]

Instead of points every 1000 posts. Maybe change it to: 10 points a month for people who post over 100 post during that month. 20 points for over 500 posts. and 30 points for over 1000 posts a month. Seems like it would keep people active month2month, and it would cap the power posters from month to month (the points-2-posts per month can be varied to what would work best). I really don't see too many people posting just to post. Just a select few like ttaylor: posting different smiley's 5 times in a row in some threads. So maybe there could be a limit of how many posts you can do every 5 or 10 minutes? I don't post very much, so I don't know what a good limit would be. 3 posts per 5min? 5p/10min? Seems like there would be less and more substance in posts.

I think thats a great idea, maybe bump the points up a little bit and add another level like 50 pts for 2000 posts in a month, but also detract points if posters go over a number like 2020posts per month. Give them a warning on the last 5 posts. Once they go over 2020 all points are lost. This works out to 66 posts per day and would make people ration their posts and would stop guys from the cluttering the board just to get to 1000 posts.

EDIT: limiting the number of posts per minute is a horrible idea, unless capped at a very high number.

[Powderguy]

Eidolon, that's not a bad idea at all.

[TodaysAction]

Something that should get consideration for an exception would be a thread in which there is dialog between posters on a game or race. The latter is more of a concern as far as I'm concerned since on average I play 24 races a day and were I to post the thoughts for each race, the thread will expand 24 posts in about 5-10 minutes. Yet, I don't feel that that should be considered 'power posting'. There should be some latitude and common sense used by those that would be enforcing the new rule changes.

[MastaB]

Something that should get consideration for an exception would be a thread in which there is dialog between posters on a game or race. The latter is more of a concern as far as I'm concerned since on average I play 24 races a day and were I to post the thoughts for each race, the thread will expand 24 posts in about 5-10 minutes. Yet, I don't feel that that should be considered 'power posting'. There should be some latitude and common sense used by those that would be enforcing the new rule changes.

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[Powderguy]

TodaysAction, yeah it shouldn't be considered power posting if you are talking in an in game thread and posting every minute or so. Good point.

[texashighroller]

Stop rewarding people for the volume of posts. You have to take away the incentive for these idiots to leave 300 posts a day. In the time they spend leaving a picture of a smiley face on everyones thread they could get a part time job or develop relationships with actual people, not sbr fantasy world people. The sbr points system is a great idea, but like all good things it will be ruined by people who want to take advantage. Maybe we should just put a warning label on it, like cigarettes.

warning!!!! Overuse of sbr forum can lead to never getting laid and/or moving out of parents basement!!!

[bookie]

Four threads and twenty posts a day are plenty for anybody for any reason...You're doing us a favor if you give us term limits.

[rjt721]

Ah, the result of SBR points. What a fine idea.

[MastaB]

Stop rewarding people for the volume of posts. You have to take away the incentive for these idiots to leave 300 posts a day. In the time they spend leaving a picture of a smiley face on everyones thread they could get a part time job or develop relationships with actual people, not sbr fantasy world people. The sbr points system is a great idea, but like all good things it will be ruined by people who want to take advantage. Maybe we should just put a warning label on it, like cigarettes. warning!!!! Overuse of sbr forum can lead to never getting laid and/or moving out of parents basement!!!

the whole point is to give people an incentive to post, and has been very successful numbers wise for SBR. I guess that went over your head? the problem is that some guys are taking it to far, whatsgood5 is a prime example. I hate to keep using his name, but he is a big reason we are having this debate.

[MastaB]

Four threads and twenty posts a day are plenty for anybody for any reason...You're doing us a favor if you give us term limits.

if the forum was comprised of posters like you....it would no longer exist.

800 posts in 5 year

[TodaysAction]

TodaysAction, yeah it shouldn't be considered power posting if you are talking in an in game thread and posting every minute or so. Good point.

There have been in-game threads that had several thousand views and hundreds of responses over the course of the game. Think about it for a moment, there aren't any sports that 'go' every second, so sometimes between plays other topics get discussed, then back to the game and so forth. It's easy to rack up over 100 posts during a in game thread when there's a half dozen posters or so. Hopefully, common sense will prevail for those situations.