Math & Stat Guys ::: Win % of 1st time Super Bowl Teams

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:02 AM

You're asking math and stat guys about a statistic that is completely irrelevant to the game at hand?

Sam Odom · 02-05-10, 09:05 AM

Having or not having SB experience isnt a factor ?

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:15 AM

Which players is it supposed to be a factor for? Just the Saints?

Sam Odom · 02-05-10, 09:17 AM

Thanks for your input , Monkey

JohnAnthony · 02-05-10, 09:20 AM

Proving my point he is just another sour, sad M0therF0cker.

Sam Odom · 02-05-10, 09:20 AM

A little Googling gave me this about winning SU

First-time Super Bowl teams face uphill climb

"Of the 27 franchises that have played in the Super Bowl, 19 lost in that first visit."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...n.3b03b42.html

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:22 AM

Ok. I'll play along. At what point in Super Bowl history do you THINK that previous Superbowl appearances by a team have a factor in the outcome of the current contest? And at what interval do you think that previous appearance had a factor as well? Did the 1968 Green Bay Packer appearance influence the 1997 Packers? What exactly are you hoping to quantify here?

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by JohnAnthony

Proving my point he is just another sour, sad M0therF0cker.

Oh boy. You are SO RIGHT!! It has nothing to do with the irrelevancy of the topic. It's all about ME!! YAY!!!!

Sam Odom · 02-05-10, 09:24 AM

Sorry you having a bad day Monkey.

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

A little Googling gave me this about winning SU

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...n.3b03b42.html

You realize that includes Superbowl I and Superbowl II, etc. Right?

Sam Odom · 02-05-10, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

It has nothing to do with the irrelevancy of the topic.

Cool , you have made your point.

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Sorry you having a bad day Monkey.

It has nothing to do with me. It has to do with your question.

Sam Odom · 02-05-10, 09:29 AM

Another Read

Saints-Colts: First-Time Super Bowl Teams Don't Win Often

Saints-Colts: First-Time Super Bowl Teams Don't Win Often

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/332208-first-time-super-bowl-teams-dont-win-often

The New Orleans Saints are the 2009 NFC Champions. After defeating the Minnesota Vikings 31-28, the Saints are headed to their first Super Bowl in their 42 year history...

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:30 AM

Even if it were a factor somehow, no record you could derive from a handful of games could possibly be statistically significant.

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:35 AM

Sam,

Did you know that the NFC is 22-21 in the Superbowl? Bet the NFC team!!!

smitch124 · 02-05-10, 09:35 AM

Even if you had the amount of data to get significant results, I would be more interested in how the 1st timers preformed with respect to the spread or money line instead of just their W/L record.

Sam Odom · 02-05-10, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by smitch124

I would be more interested in how the 1st timers preformed with respect to the spread or money line instead of just their W/L record.

I agree with the ATS thing. Someone has it I'm sure

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

I agree with the ATS thing. Someone has it I'm sure

Someone has what? A record from which nothing conclusive can be derived? If that's what you're saying, then you'd be correct.

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 09:59 AM

Here you go, Sam...

First time appearance ATS records.

13-18-2

MonkeyF0cker · 02-05-10, 10:05 AM

Standard error in that sample is ±7.75 games.