Why donate to Haiti fund?

[THE PROFIT]

One rich country Qatar donated a 100 million, I never even heard about that donation, thanks Qatar!

They are now in financial distress. They poured billions into becoming a resort country in the middle east, built that big tower & everything. When the US economy suffers everyone suffers.

[gimme2dollars]

If you want to give, then take some food or water down to your local supply drive. Cash gets lost in the mix too easy.

[keyboarding]

If you want to give, then take some food or water down to your local supply drive. Cash gets lost in the mix too easy.

Good idea. Add non perishable food items to the SBR store.

[pavyracer]

Good idea. Add non perishable food items to the SBR store.

You can get a Walmart or Target gift card from the store and buy the canned foods locally. It will cost a lot shipping the items to each individual poster.

[mathdotcom]

Suppose you want to donate $10 to Haiti.

Is there any difference between you taking a $10 bill out of your pocket and mailing it there, or the government doing it for you?

So unless you think the government is not donating enough on your behalf, there is no reason to donate. But just realize that if you are a tax payer, and you don't personally donate, that you have not donated $0.

Think with your heads not your hearts

[Socrates]

Cuba and Mexico sent troops to help Katrina victims fyi.

This is a very evil thread. Talk about stingy.

[Socrates]

Think with your heads not your hearts

Who the hell raised you? Slap them across the face for me the next time you see them, for being absolute failures at raising a child.

[DOMINATER]

I WAS THERE FOR A WEEK, AND I GAVE OVER $XXXX TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, MOSTLY WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES. ITS EITHER GIVE THE $xxxx TO THE GOVT. TO USE IT FOR WHAT THEY WANT OR FOR ME TO GIVE IT TO WHO I WANT TO USE IT THE WAY I THINK IT SHOULD BE SPENT, ITS A WRITE OFF FOR ME , BUT I STILL THINK GIVING 5 OR 10 DOLLARS WOULD MAKE ONE FEEL PRETTY GOOD , THAT YOUR HELPING OUT.BELIEVE ME IF YOU WERE THERE YOU WOULD HELP OUT. NOTE I WOULDN'T PUT THE AMOUNT , IM LEARNING fuk the haters. go play in traffic sorry for caps usually they automatically become small letters, dictionary; whats are the small letters called thanks

[mathdotcom]

Socrates

So I guess when you go to a restaurant and your friend pays for you, you then take out your wallet and pay again?

I am not saying no one should give. I am just saying the government is already donating on your behalf, so you should not feel guilty if you do not personally donate.

[whatsgood5]

The Salvation Army's CEO salary is only 13k a year, but I completely agree the Red Cross paying their CEO 650k a year is absolutely fukin insane, some charity, hell if youll pay me 650k a year I'll start a charity too

Holy shit, did not know this, that's terrible.

[Pareto]

Holy shit, did not know this, that's terrible.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_charities_salaries.htm

[BillyCostigan]

Gotta love how some try to turn Haiti into a political debate within our own country. Arrogant fuks.

[Glitch]

small letters = lowercase

as a sidenote: its a personal decision- you could say "why give that homeless guy a dollar? he already has a cheeseburger" but that is the wrong way to think about things. theres always more we as people can do.

[mathdotcom]

Glitch

Thanks for giving that homeless guy a dollar. Now he'll be there every day asking everyone else for money.

If you really cared you'd give that $$ to a homeless shelter or something else that gets them off the street and not rewarding them for being on it. Think about the incentives you're creating.

People are so slow.

[Glitch]

what you fail to realize is that this hypothetical homeless person is a human being and not a roach or rat or possum. its not about how to get rid of the pest- maybe ill give him 2 dollars and he can take some public transportation somewhere to get a free suit or go to the shelter.

ill rephase perhaps so you dont categorize me with these slow people to which you refer. its like saying "im not gonna give a can of corn to the food drive because i already gave a dollar to the shelter" there are a lot of people hungry and displaced. and people are just exhibiting the good side of human nature and helping people out to an even greater extent than is currently being perpetrated.

its all individual decision and to be honest ive had similar thoughts about tax money already going there and money that i spend to watch an NBA game going there. this is not a good perspective. luckily you are only one person.

the fact is that this cheeseburger-eating bum is already on the street- if a 40oz steel reserve will keep him warm and help him forget about his mistakes and severe problems for a few hours then im down with that.

you should do what makes you comfortable. to each his own.

[keyboarding]

Never give money to homeless. The ones who aren't con artists are mentally ill, and your money could have gone to places like shelters where the sane and legitimate homeless go to eat and sleep.

[poochiecollins]

Suppose you want to donate $10 to Haiti. Is there any difference between you taking a $10 bill out of your pocket and mailing it there, or the government doing it for you? So unless you think the government is not donating enough on your behalf, there is no reason to donate. But just realize that if you are a tax payer, and you don't personally donate, that you have not donated $0. Think with your heads not your hearts

I assure you many more people will donate because of that easy method. There's a difference between someone interested in donating and their actually doing it. Many would have also just not thought about donating otherwise.

Your argument about the government already donating only makes any sense if you think the recipients are already well enough off. $10 donation is ten extra dollars people in bad circumstances get, minus a little bit for wages and expenses, unless you're accusing the government of lying about allocation of funds.

[bettilimbroke999]

The US is generous as hell, not only do we donate millions upon millions of tax dollars to a third world country that probably hates our guts with no possible benefit to us but in addition to that we donate millions and millions out of our pockets to a third world shithole that probably hates our guts, all this during our worst recession since the Great Depression

[scarp]

Atleast the money goes to a good cause, unlike our food support to N. Korea

[Glitch]

Never give money to homeless. The ones who aren't con artists are mentally ill, and your money could have gone to places like shelters where the sane and legitimate homeless go to eat and sleep.

dont give them a dollar because they're mentally ill. got it...wouldnt want them being able to pay a copay on their prescriptions or take the bus to the pharmacy or buy a f*ckin sandwich. who knows what would happen if they got their hands on these things. imagine the devestation.

if i feel like it ill give a dollar to a cat or a retard or a 15-team parlay or especially a human being whos hungry. dont if you dont want to.

[karthic]

ouch

[poochiecollins]

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...s_salaries.htm

I want to bring to attention a couple parts of that article for those who didn't read it.

But it's fair to ask: Is one charity automatically more worthy than another just because its leader is paid a lower salary? Not necessarily, says Charity Navigator, a Web site that evaluates and compares the financial health of charitable organizations.
"While there are certainly some charities that overpay their leaders, Charity Navigator's data shows that those organizations are the minority," states the site's FAQ page. "Among the charities we've evaluated, the average CEO salary is $144,521. ...These leaders could inevitably make much more running similarly sized for-profit firms. Furthermore, when making your decision [about where to donate] it is important to consider that it takes a certain level of professionalism to effectively run a charity and charities must offer a competitive salary if they want to attract and retain that level of leadership."

Charity Navigator recommends looking at each organization's CEO compensation as a percentage of total annual expenses. For example, Marsha Evans' salary, generous as it seems, amounts to only .15% of American Red Cross' annual expenses. By contrast, Brian Gallagher's salary is .97% of United Way's total expenses, and W. Todd Bassett's compensation amounts to .29% of the Salvation Army's annual expense budget. All these figures are well below the annual average calculated for the thousands of organizations in Charity Navigator's database, 3.4%.

Emphasis mine. I'd add that not any asshole can step up and be CEO of a large, smooth-running charity organization, or at least keep it like that. I don't have a problem with their CEOs making well into the six figures, as long as they're doing a good job, considering what many other CEOs make. Millions, I would, given the nature of the field.

[teaserpleaser]

dont give them a dollar because they're mentally ill. got it...wouldnt want them being able to pay a copay on their prescriptions or take the bus to the pharmacy or buy a f*ckin sandwich. who knows what would happen if they got their hands on these things. imagine the devestation.

if i feel like it ill give a dollar to a cat or a retard or a 15-team parlay or especially a human being whos hungry. dont if you dont want to.

yeah $5 isnt going to hurt.

[bettilimbroke999]

How can the CEO make 700k and call it a charity?

In any event, after realizing there's poor ppl that are completely fuked allover the world and since Americans have so much money we avg 300 lbs and play rounds of golf that cost more than half the world makes in a year I've decided to start my own charity to give back called Save the Humans.

Im the CEO, Im gonna pay myself a million a year and give away the rest of your money, you may consider my salary high but figurin out who to give your money to is a full-time job and I dont plan on eatin ramen noodles while savin the world, I could prolly make 10x that as the CEO of Wal-Mart but Im willing to donate my time for only a million a year, your fukin welcome in advance, now please paypal any money you would've given to those other charities to me and once I get to a million im gonna rent a plane and go flyin over Africa (so as not to be killed by rebels or contract AIDS) and dump bags of your cash on the poor ppl, they can buy food, water, rap CDs whatever they need and their lives will turn around in no time.

[eturhSthgiwD]

How can the CEO make 700k and call it a charity?

In any event, after realizing there's poor ppl that are completely fuked allover the world and since Americans have so much money we avg 300 lbs and play rounds of golf that cost more than half the world makes in a year I've decided to start my own charity to give back called Save the Humans.

Im the CEO, Im gonna pay myself a million a year and give away the rest of your money, you may consider my salary high but figurin out who to give your money to is a full-time job and I dont plan on eatin ramen noodles while savin the world, I could prolly make 10x that as the CEO of Wal-Mart but Im willing to donate my time for only a million a year, your fukin welcome in advance, now please paypal any money you would've given to those other charities to me and once I get to a million im gonna rent a plane and go flyin over Africa (so as not to be killed by rebels or contract AIDS) and dump bags of your cash on the poor ppl, they can buy food, water, rap CDs whatever they need and their lives will turn around in no time.

what a bargain!! what's your paypal? i'll forward it to andywend, the retired & never too bashful, often re-iterated, highly self acclaimed e-trillionaire of SBR Forum. he'll spare you a million.

[bettilimbroke999]

andy's donation would be greatly appreciated, I am donating my time at a deep discount but I can only do so much

[keyboarding]

dont give them a dollar because they're mentally ill. got it...wouldnt want them being able to pay a copay on their prescriptions or take the bus to the pharmacy or buy a f*ckin sandwich. who knows what would happen if they got their hands on these things. imagine the devestation. if i feel like it ill give a dollar to a cat or a retard or a 15-team parlay or especially a human being whos hungry. dont if you dont want to.

That's hilarious. Schizophrenics taking the bus to get a prescription.

Do you know what mentally ill means? Also, did you not read the rest of the post? Fukkwit.

[teaserpleaser]

fukwit

[Glitch]

That's hilarious. Schizophrenics taking the bus to get a prescription.

Do you know what mentally ill means? Also, did you not read the rest of the post? Fukkwit.

yeah i do know what mentally ill means and even schizophrenic specifically- you are the one that is misinformed and disillusioned if you believe they are not capable of riding public transportation or functioning in society if given some assistance and guidance. some can even accomplish this without said-help.

i did read the rest of it and i agree that when you give to a shelter you know where its going and what its being used for. there are different levels and degrees to which a person can be mentally ill and every day in every major city there are mentally ill individuals and schizophrenics who DO take buses and trains to fill prescriptions and make appointments with health care professionals.

ps i did read the rest of your post and i do agree that giving to shelters is good practice. however if these f*ckers are whacked outta their mind and think scooby doo is trying to pour red ants in their ear while they sleep and that the shelter is really an alien-run government facility in disguise to facilitate this or similar detrimental transgressions then perhaps they would rather sleep on a bench.

[Glitch]

the bus example is just one of many ways that dollar can increase the quality of life for another human being. not that i support homeless people on buses....

[jon101]

I would say donate to the red cross for Haiti and Chile.

But keep in mind Haiti had very few schools and hospitals before the quake, and should we as a country make their lives better by paying for more than they had before the quake?

I will give to Chile, Haiti only small amounts.

Haiti is too corrupt, wheras Chile atleast will deal enough Coke to pay for their problems.

[jon101]

About the mentally ill, they are entitled to social security, medicaid, and food stamps, and are considered disabled. Its better than having them homeless, or worse. Most have worked long enough to collect, and well its a way to better society by helping people who will use their money for medical, and food, shelter, and clothing. Stimulates the economy and helps America. Most people are down on entitlements until they are entitled.

[keyboarding]

however if these f*ckers are whacked outta their mind and think scooby doo is trying to pour red ants in their ear while they sleep and that the shelter is really an alien-run government facility in disguise to facilitate this or similar detrimental transgressions then perhaps they would rather sleep on a bench.

These are the homeless I'm talking about. Do not give them money. They are as good as dead.

[poochiecollins]

How can the CEO make 700k and call it a charity? In any event, after realizing there's poor ppl that are completely fuked allover the world and since Americans have so much money we avg 300 lbs and play rounds of golf that cost more than half the world makes in a year I've decided to start my own charity to give back called Save the Humans. Im the CEO, Im gonna pay myself a million a year and give away the rest of your money, you may consider my salary high but figurin out who to give your money to is a full-time job and I dont plan on eatin ramen noodles while savin the world, I could prolly make 10x that as the CEO of Wal-Mart but Im willing to donate my time for only a million a year, your fukin welcome in advance

Need to show evidence that the money would go where it should go and that you have strong skills where CEOs need them. This is why you don't see people doing this successfully in any kind of frequency. My post before this one in this thread covered why charity organization leaders can't be offered crap money.

[constrictor]

One of the biggest begging agents in the universe is the UN and they ve obviously been doing bad jobs as evidenced in a messy and corrupt world were living in today. You know how much UN officials make?