A Pennsylvania Sportsbook Is Arguing my Futures Bet on Djokovic Shouldn't be Refunded

**thomorino** · 01-19-22, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by Optional

It does not matter if aliens kidnap him. All bets are action.

For PR reasons books will often void bets in high profile situations like this for the marketing value, but no reason they should have to.

The all bets are action argument is not persuasive here. I'd the player I not allowed to compete even though they are ready and willing, then it's Important to void the bet. If a tourney is cancelled the futures wagers should clearly be cancelled, since the player has no opportunity to compete.

If a third part intervenes to not allow a player or team to compete that should good the bet.

**Optional** · 01-19-22, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by thomorino

The all bets are action argument is not persuasive here. I'd the player I not allowed to compete even though they are ready and willing, then it's Important to void the bet. If a tourney is cancelled the futures wagers should clearly be cancelled, since the player has no opportunity to compete.

If a third part intervenes to not allow a player or team to compete that should good the bet.

There is a process to get your opinion heard by the GCB.

Email support@pa.unibet.com , mention you wish to lodge a dispute, and explain the problem.

If they can not come to agreement with you, ask them for a Complaint Reference # so you can ask the Pa regulator for their opinion.

Then fill out this form https://gamingcontrolboard.pa.gov/?p=106

If you want things to change for the future, it's worth the effort.

**jjgold** · 01-19-22, 07:13 AM

Unibet is small like I said in USA

They need the money

**cecil127** · 01-19-22, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by thomorino

The all bets are action argument is not persuasive here. I'd the player I not allowed to compete even though they are ready and willing, then it's Important to void the bet. If a tourney is cancelled the futures wagers should clearly be cancelled, since the player has no opportunity to compete.

If a third part intervenes to not allow a player or team to compete that should good the bet.

settle down Beavis…

**captrobey** · 01-19-22, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by vitterd

Honestly, I’m in pa and never heard of Unibet. Is that book inside a wawa?

7-11

**thomorino** · 01-19-22, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by cecil127

settle down Beavis…

Stop talking

**thomorino** · 01-19-22, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Optional

There is a process to get your opinion heard by the GCB.

Email support@pa.unibet.com , mention you wish to lodge a dispute, and explain the problem.

If they can not come to agreement with you, ask them for a Complaint Reference # so you can ask the Pa regulator for their opinion.

Then fill out this form https://gamingcontrolboard.pa.gov/?p=106

If you want things to change for the future, it's worth the effort.

I said twice in this thread unibet informed me my bet would be refunded

**jjgold** · 01-19-22, 10:24 AM

OK threat over

**statguy** · 01-19-22, 01:19 PM

Nice

Hotdogs in a casino for breakfast.

**pavyracer** · 01-19-22, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

OK threat over

Morino is always a threat.

**DontTailMe** · 01-19-22, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

If the player is not allowed to pw form because a third party intervenes than the all action clause should become mute. Djokavic did not withdraw, he was never given the chance to participate

This is your opinion, but it's a rule you're making up in your head. When you bet on a future, you are assuming all sorts of risks which might cause your chosen horse to not participate, including government action. We just don't think about the latter because it's so rare that it's not worth thinking about. I'd wager that if you had bet a "Djokovic NOT to win Australian Open" future, your biases would be swaying your opinion in the exact opposite direction here.

If they refunded you as a courtesy, that's awesome man. Congrats on gaining an edge you shouldn't have.

**thomorino** · 01-19-22, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

This is your opinion, but it's a rule you're making up in your head. When you bet on a future, you are assuming all sorts of risks which might cause your chosen horse to not participate, including government action. We just don't think about the latter because it's so rare that it's not worth thinking about. I'd wager that if you had bet a "Djokovic NOT to win Australian Open" future, your biases would be swaying your opinion in the exact opposite direction here.

If they refunded you as a courtesy, that's awesome man. Congrats on gaining an edge you shouldn't have.

No, as I said, I think all futures wagers should be refunded in this extenuating circumstance. Again, if a player is now allowed to compete, they don't voluntarily withdraw, the all bets have action clause should not apply.

**lonegambler23** · 01-19-22, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Unibet is small like I said in USA

They need the money

hes a small player no worries

**BuckyOne** · 01-19-22, 07:46 PM

I am not really hearing anybody here feeling bad for Djokovik? Any other players get kicked out or was he the only one?

**thomorino** · 01-19-22, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by lonegambler23

hes a small player no worries

You are unintelligent

**lonegambler23** · 01-19-22, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

You are unintelligent

youre down 100+k

**thomorino** · 01-19-22, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by lonegambler23

youre down 100+k

Wrong, you are unintelligent.

**Booya711** · 01-19-22, 08:32 PM

Imagine arguing over $10????

**ThanksForTheFade** · 01-19-22, 08:46 PM

-550 units

**thomorino** · 01-19-22, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by ThanksForTheFade

-550 units

Wrong, that's not my record

**kursonik** · 01-20-22, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

I'm not arguing over the price to spend the night with your mom, be quiet.

I am really surprised that someone takes you seriously and answers your questions. You are a classic cocky quarter-intelligent with a small penis. And that comment about his Mom should get you out of here forever ...

**jjgold** · 01-20-22, 02:48 PM

I tip $20 daily

**mjsuax13** · 01-20-22, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by kursonik

I am really surprised that someone takes you seriously and answers your questions. You are a classic cocky quarter-intelligent with a small penis. And that comment about his Mom should get you out of here forever ...

MODS just delete his trash now. Secretly they all fade him. What can you do?

**chargers4222** · 01-20-22, 06:27 PM

Is the sportsbook based in "deleware county?"

**chargers4222** · 01-20-22, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

If the player is not allowed to pw form because a third party intervenes than the all action clause should become mute. Djokavic did not withdraw, he was never given the chance to participate

Is this Djokavic guy related to Novak Djokovic?

**Wrongside** · 01-20-22, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

No you haven't, be quiet. He was kicked out by the Australian government. This has never happened before. Its clearly an extenuating circumstance. He didn't withdraw, he got kicked out of the country.

As someone else said, the reason why he is not playing is irrelevant...whether from their angle or ours (that we have all been there), it is the same. I was going to offer you my apologies, but your tude can't allow for it.

**big joe 1212** · 01-20-22, 07:33 PM

1. If they did in fact refund you, which I don’t believe, they probably figured you are a loser and will just lose it back anyways.

2. you started a thread about how they refuse to refund you, you get some criticism, you realize you are
wrong, and then bang, 35 minutes later the book changed their mind and refunded you

Im calling bullshIt as usual here

**thomorino** · 01-20-22, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

1. If they did in fact refund you, which I don’t believe, they probably figured you are a loser and will just lose it back anyways.

2. you started a thread about how they refuse to refund you, you get some criticism, you realize you are
wrong, and then bang, 35 minutes later the book changed their mind and refunded you

Im calling bullshIt as usual here

Unibet made very public they refunded these bets for everyone, not just me. You are unintelligent.

**thomorino** · 01-20-22, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by Wrongside

As someone else said, the reason why he is not playing is irrelevant...whether from their angle or ours (that we have all been there), it is the same. I was going to offer you my apologies, but your tude can't allow for it.

No it is relevant. If someone murders a player or the tournament keeps him from playing, bets should be refunded. There are exceptions to every rule. Your attitude is weak.

**pavyracer** · 01-20-22, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

No it is relevant. If someone murders a player or the tournament keeps him from playing, bets should be refunded. There are exceptions to every rule. Your attitude is weak.

You are wrong. If they refund your bet they have to cancel all the other bets on the players that are playing since their odds are not valid anymore. So if Medveveev was +400 with Djokovic playing and is now +200 with Djokovic not playing you think the book should refund your Djokovic bet and keep Medveveev +400 as was originally booked even though it is much lower now?

**captrobey** · 01-20-22, 09:22 PM

What if someone was about to play a match but then a person dressed as a banana smashed their skull in making that person believe he was Donny Osmond . Would you still get refunded and what if Donny Osmond Won would you still get paid or would they say Donny Osmond was not the original player and it would be a no play.

**thomorino** · 01-20-22, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

You are wrong. If they refund your bet they have to cancel all the other bets on the players that are playing since their odds are not valid anymore. So if Medveveev was +400 with Djokovic playing and is now +200 with Djokovic not playing you think the book should refund your Djokovic bet and keep Medveveev +400 as was originally booked even though it is much lower now?

I said I agree that all futures bets should be cancelled and refunded, not just mine. I've said that multiple times.

**ThanosPttPls** · 01-20-22, 09:40 PM

This is crazy after DK paying out obvious line errors in live NFL for 200k a year or two ago... wow

**mjsuax13** · 01-20-22, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

1. If they did in fact refund you, which I don’t believe, they probably figured you are a loser and will just lose it back anyways.

2. you started a thread about how they refuse to refund you, you get some criticism, you realize you are
wrong, and then bang, 35 minutes later the book changed their mind and refunded you

Im calling bullshIt as usual here

What a smack down. Dana White didn’t even have to put it on PPV.

**mjsuax13** · 01-20-22, 09:49 PM