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  • eaglesfan371
    SBR MVP
    • 01-08-19
    • 4079

    #141
    Let me tell you a brief story Joe...

    Several years ago, age 21 or 22, was in a 2/5 game at Parx NLHE. Had run $600 up to $2000. Got it all in against a guy who had me covered on turn... was holding AJ on a AJ2J board. Said sorry man I have you since he did not raise preflop on button he def did not have aces.

    He flips over 22 and river comes the final 2. I'm stunned. I take a walk, I don't curse at him, I don't complain. I take a walk. Poker is one long game, one long session. After a 20 min walk and some food, I rebuy for 800. I turn that 800 into 4800 over the next 6 hours playing sound poker. One of my best sessions ever. I got rid of that bad beat in my head.

    I have lost 3 of 4 of the biggest cash pots I've been involved in. 13k, 8k, 6k. Each time was ahead. I never complained besides a sigh and clearly unhappy but never voiced that. That's poker. If someone makes a bad call in the long run, you WILL appreciate those bad calls and take their money. You want people to make bad calls. Heck to occasionally win too so they come back.

    If you let every bad beat get to you, you will never play well. You will convince yourself you're unlucky, tilt, or just start playing bad. Variance happens. Learn to handle it internally. Heck, look into meditation. I have heard it helps.

    Now with that, I will show myself out. Apologies for "another bad beat story" but thought it might help. Joe say less and instead use that frustration on something beneficial like go for a run after a tough beat or lift some weights.
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    • blankoblanco
      SBR MVP
      • 11-18-11
      • 3499

      #142
      Damn, that was actually inspiring
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      • JAKEPEAVY21
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 03-11-11
        • 29302

        #143
        what you all don't get is you can't talk sense to joe blow... his only joy in life is whining, complaining and stirring the pot.

        no sense in wasting time trying to reason with the guy.
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        • franklee168
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-06-11
          • 5544

          #144
          Joe came onto a few tables and typed in "donk"
          Guess what happened when no one replied?
          He went away.
          Pro tip.
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          • JAKEPEAVY21
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 03-11-11
            • 29302

            #145
            Originally posted by franklee168
            Joe came onto a few tables and typed in "donk"
            Guess what happened when no one replied?
            He went away.
            Pro tip.
            he rails tournaments he doesn't even play, he has nothing better to do lol
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            • Auto Donk
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-03-13
              • 43558

              #146
              Originally posted by blankoblanco
              Damn, that was actually inspiring
              not for me .... just reminded me of that f'n horrible day in Lake Charles louisianna at the isle of capri, bough in for 300 at 2/5, ran it to 1500-1600, only to see this unfold with a guy who had me covered by a few hundred at the start of the hand:

              hero ad: k10
              "donk" villian (as joecool would definitely call him): qj, suited in spades (limped in with k ten)

              flop: k k a (two spades)

              he checks, I bet something reasonable to keep him in hand, probably 25-30, wanting action with my trips,

              turn: red ten, gives me boat, him broadway.... he makes it 50, i immediately put him on broadway, and hollywood some, then reraise to 150, he shoves, I call.... pot is around $3100

              he sees the boat and the bad news, starts cussing as he stands up at the table......

              river: ten of spades, he nails the royal.....


              calmly left the table with a statement, of "well, gentleman, that just icing on the cake of how bad my weekend at Harrah's was, haha".... (it had come up in table talk how i'd lost at harrahs in new orleans [another bad beat story I'll spare ya], and at the belle in baton rouge.... lost all the f'n way back to texas that weekend, but never pulled a joef'ncool meltdown whiny bitch session.....

              I took that beat so well the guy who sucked out on me even gave me the "Isle of Capri" ball cap he won for hitting the royal.....

              adding insult to injuries is the bad beat jackpot of around 60K at the time req'd aces full, which I missed by a hair....
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #147
                I love how amateurs talk about bad beats to happen all the time


                Poker is 1000% luck
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                • Auto Donk
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-03-13
                  • 43558

                  #148
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  I love how amateurs talk about bad beats to happen all the time


                  Poker is 1000% luck
                  JJ bitching about taking a bad beat, telling dealer to suck his kahk (well, at least, that sad excuse of a kahk he's fingerin'):



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                  • JoeCool20
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-31-18
                    • 4440

                    #149
                    Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                    Let me tell you a brief story Joe...

                    Several years ago, age 21 or 22, was in a 2/5 game at Parx NLHE. Had run $600 up to $2000. Got it all in against a guy who had me covered on turn... was holding AJ on a AJ2J board. Said sorry man I have you since he did not raise preflop on button he def did not have aces.

                    He flips over 22 and river comes the final 2. I'm stunned. I take a walk, I don't curse at him, I don't complain. I take a walk. Poker is one long game, one long session. After a 20 min walk and some food, I rebuy for 800. I turn that 800 into 4800 over the next 6 hours playing sound poker. One of my best sessions ever. I got rid of that bad beat in my head.

                    I have lost 3 of 4 of the biggest cash pots I've been involved in. 13k, 8k, 6k. Each time was ahead. I never complained besides a sigh and clearly unhappy but never voiced that. That's poker. If someone makes a bad call in the long run, you WILL appreciate those bad calls and take their money. You want people to make bad calls. Heck to occasionally win too so they come back.

                    If you let every bad beat get to you, you will never play well. You will convince yourself you're unlucky, tilt, or just start playing bad. Variance happens. Learn to handle it internally. Heck, look into meditation. I have heard it helps.

                    Now with that, I will show myself out. Apologies for "another bad beat story" but thought it might help. Joe say less and instead use that frustration on something beneficial like go for a run after a tough beat or lift some weights.



                    Great post bro! I hate to do it to you on such a good post, but here goes.

                    YOU HAVE TO READ WHAT I POSTED EARLIER!!

                    IF YOU HAD READ WHAT I'VE POSTED AT LEAST TEN DAMN TIMES ALREADY THEN YOU'D KNOW I'M NOT "FRUSTRATED" ABOUT FINISHING 4TH AND WINNING $200! I'm thrilled that I didn't get donked way earlier!

                    IF YOU READ WHAT I HAVE POSTED TEN TIMES ALREADY THEN YOU'D KNOW THAT I THINK DONKS, AND ESPECIALLY SBR DONKS, ARE FREAKIN HILARIOUS!!


                    LOL I'm sorry I had to do that but every other post on here is some idiot who can't read telling me I am "bitching" or "whining" when I have said TEN FUCKIN TIMES on this thread alone that it is all a fuckin joke to me!
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                    • JoeCool20
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-31-18
                      • 4440

                      #150
                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                      what you all don't get is you can't talk sense to joe blow... his only joy in life is whining, complaining and stirring the pot.

                      no sense in wasting time trying to reason with the guy.

                      LOL Hey Jerk Pee-Pee, Thanks for defining the word "hypocrite" for all of SBR to see you stupid idiot moron!


                      Making a post where you try to "stir the pot" and you "whine" and "complain" about somebody else that you assume is "whining" and "complaining" and "stirring the pot" makes you look like the biggest fuckin idiot hypocrite on the face of the earth dude!

                      You are obviously a total retarded idiot-buffoon, but you still should erase that! You can do much better than that!
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                      • JoeCool20
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-31-18
                        • 4440

                        #151
                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                        not for me .... just reminded me of that f'n horrible day in Lake Charles louisianna at the isle of capri, bough in for 300 at 2/5, ran it to 1500-1600, only to see this unfold with a guy who had me covered by a few hundred at the start of the hand:

                        hero ad: k10
                        "donk" villian (as joecool would definitely call him): qj, suited in spades (limped in with k ten)

                        flop: k k a (two spades)

                        he checks, I bet something reasonable to keep him in hand, probably 25-30, wanting action with my trips,

                        turn: red ten, gives me boat, him broadway.... he makes it 50, i immediately put him on broadway, and hollywood some, then reraise to 150, he shoves, I call.... pot is around $3100

                        he sees the boat and the bad news, starts cussing as he stands up at the table......

                        river: ten of spades, he nails the royal.....


                        calmly left the table with a statement, of "well, gentleman, that just icing on the cake of how bad my weekend at Harrah's was, haha".... (it had come up in table talk how i'd lost at harrahs in new orleans [another bad beat story I'll spare ya], and at the belle in baton rouge.... lost all the f'n way back to texas that weekend, but never pulled a joef'ncool meltdown whiny bitch session.....

                        I took that beat so well the guy who sucked out on me even gave me the "Isle of Capri" ball cap he won for hitting the royal.....

                        adding insult to injuries is the bad beat jackpot of around 60K at the time req'd aces full, which I missed by a hair....


                        Yeah you should have got up when you had won $3100 (or even less!) One of my favorite things to say is that if you play a cash game and never leave the table all the way up until you get a horrible beat/donk on an all in,
                        then you will never leave a winner!

                        That's what I'm trying to get across to these morons about tournament poker! You can't "whine" or "bitch" about getting donked in tournament poker because you CAN'T get up when you are winning! In a tournament, you HAVE to sit there until you get donked out! Or you are the luckiest one of all and you NEVER get donked out and you win the whole thing!

                        What kind of stupid idiots does it take to think I, or anyone else would "bitch" or "whine" about something that HAS to happen every time that you don't win the tournament? LOL Like I say, these idiots like Jerk Pee-Pee are just full on instigators like woody woodpecker!
                        LOL But it don't bother me any! I live a happy care-free life!!

                        If stupidity bothered me, then I'd leave this site forever because Jerk Pee-Pee is the biggest idiot/instigator on the face of the earth! The guy is absolutely infatuated with stalking me and bashing me.

                        I have sent Jake THREE different private messages saying: "Can't you be congenial to me? Please stop making yourself look like an idiot by following me around and posting rude and harassing things up under my comments." But the stupid idiot/instigator just CAN'T make himself stop stalking me and bashing me!
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                        • JoeCool20
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-31-18
                          • 4440

                          #152
                          Originally posted by franklee168
                          Joe came onto a few tables and typed in "donk"
                          Guess what happened when no one replied?
                          He went away.
                          Pro tip.

                          LOL Guess what? You tried to "assume" what I did, and you are wrong!!


                          I went to one table and typed in the word "donk" and left, then I went to the other table and typed in the word "donk" and left that table too and closed out the poker client!

                          I was just trying to be funny and joke around, which is obviously a concept that a lot of you have no damn clue about!

                          Please from now on try to be happy instead of negative! Especially towards me please!

                          If you want a "Pro tip" then don't assume things, but if you do need to assume things then please don't assume something "negative" about me!

                          Because you will be wrong! All I'm EVER trying to do is have fun!

                          Despite some of you goof-ball dumb asses always trying to instigate things with me!
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                          • franklee168
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-06-11
                            • 5544

                            #153
                            Originally posted by JoeCool20
                            LOL Guess what? You tried to "assume" what I did, and you are wrong!!


                            I went to one table and typed in the word "donk" and left, then I went to the other table and typed in the word "donk" and left that table too and closed out the poker client!

                            I was just trying to be funny and joke around, which is obviously a concept that a lot of you have no damn clue about!

                            Please from now on try to be happy instead of negative! Especially towards me please!

                            If you want a "Pro tip" then don't assume things, but if you do need to assume things then please don't assume something "negative" about me!

                            Because you will be wrong! All I'm EVER trying to do is have fun!

                            Despite some of you goof-ball dumb asses always trying to instigate things with me!
                            Sorry Joe. Wasn't assuming anything. Just an observation. I'm sure if anyone made a comment like right here, you would've had a fun filled night. Have at it bro.
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                            • JoeCool20
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-31-18
                              • 4440

                              #154
                              Originally posted by franklee168
                              Sorry Joe. Wasn't assuming anything. Just an observation. I'm sure if anyone made a comment like right here, you would've had a fun filled night. Have at it bro.


                              LOL No problem frank. I couldn't have known if anybody made a comment or not, because like I said, I went to one table and typed in the word "donk" and left, then I went to the other table and typed in the word "donk" and left that table too and closed out the poker client!

                              I hope some people found it funny!
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                              • shadymcgrady
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-27-12
                                • 10036

                                #155
                                Hey blowjob do you have system plays for poker as well? Is it going to put Doyle brunson to shame?
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                                • ChuckyTheGoat
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 04-04-11
                                  • 37428

                                  #156
                                  Frank, Joe is cool. He's one of us.
                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                  • eaglesfan371
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-08-19
                                    • 4079

                                    #157
                                    Joe have you ever thought about writing a book or a blog? You have a lot to say
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                                    • JoeCool20
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-31-18
                                      • 4440

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                      Joe have you ever thought about writing a book or a blog? You have a lot to say



                                      LOL I got WAAY to much time on my hands!!



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                                      • JoeCool20
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-31-18
                                        • 4440

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                        Frank, Joe is cool. He's one of us.


                                        Thanks Goat! I really appreciate that!
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                                        • Triple_D_Bet
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-12-11
                                          • 7626

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by JoeCool20
                                          LOL Hey Jerk Pee-Pee, Thanks for defining the word "hypocrite" for all of SBR to see you stupid idiot moron!


                                          Making a post where you try to "stir the pot" and you "whine" and "complain" about somebody else that you assume is "whining" and "complaining" and "stirring the pot" makes you look like the biggest fuckin idiot hypocrite on the face of the earth dude!

                                          You are obviously a total retarded idiot-buffoon, but you still should erase that! You can do much better than that!
                                          On the one hand, Jake's a nice guy and plainly one of the best poker players on here... On the other hand, Joe's the smartest guy his gym teacher has ever seen. I don't know what to believe now!
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                                          • thechaoz
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-23-09
                                            • 12154

                                            #161
                                            I'm never satisified without a win. Raise and call jam with QQ at FT, crusher flips over KK, and that's poker.

                                            I'm never folding that hand, ever. Especially considering our stacks, the blinds, the stage of the tourney.

                                            That's the way the cookie crumbles.

                                            I'll have no further comment
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                                            • blankoblanco
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-18-11
                                              • 3499

                                              #162
                                              Only an individual with a very high IQ could come up with Jerk Pee-Pee as an insult for JAKEPEAVY. Truly gifted
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                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 04-04-11
                                                • 37428

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by thechaoz
                                                I'm never satisified without a win. Raise and call jam with QQ at FT, crusher flips over KK, and that's poker.

                                                I'm never folding that hand, ever. Especially considering our stacks, the blinds, the stage of the tourney.

                                                That's the way the cookie crumbles.

                                                I'll have no further comment
                                                Chaoz, it was fun matching wits at our table. Like I said...it's just a game. Coolers are a part of the game.
                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 04-04-11
                                                  • 37428

                                                  #164
                                                  Down to L3, 3-way hand knocked me out. It's a hand that had my head spinning. But the more I thought about it...it's just poker + I was going out.

                                                  Blinds 2/4, I'm in SB (68remain, so about 17BB) w/ AJ(spades) . Leo (the big stack) min raises, I call + Crush calls from BB.

                                                  Flop is T93 w/ two spades. Flush draw + 2overs, I check. I was really hoping there would be action in front, so that I could raise...but it checks thru.

                                                  Turn is a 9, which pairs the board + doesn't improve my hand. I bet 15 into pot of 24. After the check-thru on flop, I figure I might be able to take down the pot by blowing on it.

                                                  To my surprise, Crush goes all-in w/ stack similar to mine (and Leo folds). I'm thinking that he has mostly Tx hands like KT/QT. On a draw heavy board, there are also several up/down draws that he'd like. Any smaller flush draw combo would like it. KQ(sp), Q8(sp), 87(sp), 86(sp). Any KQ or KJ combo. Feel like there are a lot of draws that I'm ahead of.

                                                  I'd be calling something like 47 to win 101, for +215 odds. I figure I'm ahead of some draws. If all my 15outs are live, I'm about 35% to make Top Pair or better. REally, I think the best hand Crush has is trip 9s. To my dismay, he is holding 33. He boated up on the Turn. I catch an irrelevant Q(sp) on River, but I was already drawing dead.
                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                  • eaglesfan371
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-08-19
                                                    • 4079

                                                    #165
                                                    It’s late but that’s an interesting hand. It would depend on what the villain’s image is to you. Is he capable of raising all in with major ICM implications having same stack with a draw. If he’s a nit, possibly fold.

                                                    Seeing crusher make large sports bets here on forum and cash out a lot, I’d tend to lean towards yes he could have draws, as $500-$1000 is not going to make a huge difference to him but an unknown it would be harder. Say it was average guy that $500-$1000 is a lot of money. They would not be shoving light here with matching stacks. Then again if they were nitty / scared money they likely would not make it this far.

                                                    Agree it was the right move, just unfortunate to see the rare boat in that situation.
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                                                    • Crusherrr
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-27-16
                                                      • 3653

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                      Down to L3, 3-way hand knocked me out. It's a hand that had my head spinning. But the more I thought about it...it's just poker + I was going out.

                                                      Blinds 2/4, I'm in SB (68remain, so about 17BB) w/ AJ(spades) . Leo (the big stack) min raises, I call + Crush calls from BB.

                                                      Flop is T93 w/ two spades. Flush draw + 2overs, I check. I was really hoping there would be action in front, so that I could raise...but it checks thru.

                                                      Turn is a 9, which pairs the board + doesn't improve my hand. I bet 15 into pot of 24. After the check-thru on flop, I figure I might be able to take down the pot by blowing on it.

                                                      To my surprise, Crush goes all-in w/ stack similar to mine (and Leo folds). I'm thinking that he has mostly Tx hands like KT/QT. On a draw heavy board, there are also several up/down draws that he'd like. Any smaller flush draw combo would like it. KQ(sp), Q8(sp), 87(sp), 86(sp). Any KQ or KJ combo. Feel like there are a lot of draws that I'm ahead of.

                                                      I'd be calling something like 47 to win 101, for +215 odds. I figure I'm ahead of some draws. If all my 15outs are live, I'm about 35% to make Top Pair or better. REally, I think the best hand Crush has is trip 9s. To my dismay, he is holding 33. He boated up on the Turn. I catch an irrelevant Q(sp) on River, but I was already drawing dead.
                                                      You should have 3b jammed with AJss pre. As played, you need to remove AK KQ KJ QJ from my range. Maybe QJ I flat pre but any other combo I'm jamming. A9 and K9s I may even be 3bet piling pre as leo's opening range should be quite large. Seeing as AJss should be all in pre I can discount that from your range and instead you should have things like QJ KJ A9s AT KT from the sb more than me. When you call from the sb like you did your range is generally going to be capped. Hands I mentioned above would be part of a capped range.

                                                      With leo opening wide a T9x flop should hit a decent amount of his opening range. I should be betting my 33 on that flop at some frequency but seeing as it hits leos range and a capped range for you in the SB I opted to check. Leo, surprisingly checks and the board pairs on the turn. I felt confident that you would not check a 9 on the turn and would instead lead out, you would also lead out AT KT QJ and any 9 as I mentioned because you would want the pot to grow at some point. Only one more card to come, obviously. I opted to jam because jamming is less suspect than calling.

                                                      As played, you should have piled pre. If you lead the flop, I also probably raise at a pretty high frequency and we just take it to the streets presumably as you would have piled after my raise. Only way you win the hand is getting me to fold pre which I would have because of ICM hoping leo calls.
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                                                      • Crusherrr
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-27-16
                                                        • 3653

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                                        Seeing crusher make large sports bets here on forum and cash out a lot, I’d tend to lean towards yes he could have draws, as $500-$1000 is not going to make a huge difference to him but an unknown it would be harder. Say it was average guy that $500-$1000 is a lot of money. They would not be shoving light here with matching stacks. Then again if they were nitty / scared money they likely would not make it this far.
                                                        Not sure my sports bet sizes are relevant to my likelihood of jamming with all my draws. That being said, I'm quite certain that I'm one of the few/only players to understand how to play and execute a GTO style of play on this forum.
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                                                        • eaglesfan371
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-08-19
                                                          • 4079

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                                          Not sure my sports bet sizes are relevant to my likelihood of jamming with all my draws. That being said, I'm quite certain that I'm one of the few/only players to understand how to play and execute a GTO style of play on this forum.
                                                          Someone who is not used to potential of winning $500-$1000, the top prizes of this tournament will play scared. You wager high amounts so this you would not play scared. If you play scared you are less likely to shove with non nutted hands.

                                                          If you know someone is competing for amounts they’re not used to, you can bully them. I made a 3 day final table, every prize in 5 figures and got bullied a bit because I stupidly announced this was my first major final table.

                                                          Also agree, shoving pre would be the better play. AJ isn’t a great hand to play oops against Leo who is going to raise everything and was. By shoving, the ICM implication will make crusher fold many hands himself including AJ (most likely). Leo is raising so wide that it’ll be rare he has a hand to call with.
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                                                          • Auto Donk
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-03-13
                                                            • 43558

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                                            Only an individual with a very high IQ could come up with Jerk Pee-Pee as an insult for JAKEPEAVY. Truly gifted
                                                            what next, bobby wee wee?
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                                                            • franklee168
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-06-11
                                                              • 5544

                                                              #170
                                                              Right click and disable chat can be your friend too!
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                                                              • Crusherrr
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 06-27-16
                                                                • 3653

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by franklee168
                                                                Right click and disable chat can be your friend too!
                                                                Doesn't work when they are on the rail.
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                                                                • franklee168
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-06-11
                                                                  • 5544

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                                                  Doesn't work when they are on the rail.
                                                                  1 out of 2 is better than nothing. And if all else fails, close chat.
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                                                                  • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 04-04-11
                                                                    • 37428

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                                                    Someone who is not used to potential of winning $500-$1000, the top prizes of this tournament will play scared. You wager high amounts so this you would not play scared. If you play scared you are less likely to shove with non nutted hands.

                                                                    If you know someone is competing for amounts they’re not used to, you can bully them. I made a 3 day final table, every prize in 5 figures and got bullied a bit because I stupidly announced this was my first major final table.

                                                                    Also agree, shoving pre would be the better play. AJ isn’t a great hand to play oops against Leo who is going to raise everything and was. By shoving, the ICM implication will make crusher fold many hands himself including AJ (most likely). Leo is raising so wide that it’ll be rare he has a hand to call with.
                                                                    That's the catch-22 of those spots. When u DO get called...you're behind.
                                                                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                    • JoeCool20
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-31-18
                                                                      • 4440

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                                                      Someone who is not used to potential of winning $500-$1000, the top prizes of this tournament will play scared. You wager high amounts so this you would not play scared. If you play scared you are less likely to shove with non nutted hands.

                                                                      If you know someone is competing for amounts they’re not used to, you can bully them. I made a 3 day final table, every prize in 5 figures and got bullied a bit because I stupidly announced this was my first major final table.

                                                                      Also agree, shoving pre would be the better play. AJ isn’t a great hand to play oops against Leo who is going to raise everything and was. By shoving, the ICM implication will make crusher fold many hands himself including AJ (most likely). Leo is raising so wide that it’ll be rare he has a hand to call with.

                                                                      Exactly right! The only thing is that all the "bullies" who try to make everyone else fold by shoving all in, or betting 25% of their stack with any ace rag or any 2 face cards got put out of the final tournament VERY quickly. TripleDbets, sinmiedo, and a few others had that "wide open" strategy totally backfire on them and they all got flushed down the toilet QUICKLY in the final.

                                                                      I had watched a bunch of people's style of play (from the rail sometimes!) and I already knew who was going to do that wild crap, and I was patiently waiting to trap their ass when they tried the wild shit in the cash tournament. Now of course I had to fade them donking me with the worst hand or it wouldn't work! But I NEVER got wild-ass donked by some idiot calling with nothing but 2 high cards! (Whew!)
                                                                      And so EVERYTHING that I had been saying ended up coming true!
                                                                      That wild ass gambling with nothing but 2 high cards worked enough times over a 2 month period to make them enough points to get them into the final, but like I said, all that matters is the game for the cash!!
                                                                      And that wild ass gambling with nothing but 2 high cards DID NOT work for ANY of the people who tried it for ONE game!

                                                                      And since I was FAR more consistent in cashing than those people, my consistent play got me 4th place and $200!

                                                                      And it also took my AA getting donked by 99 with a board of 6 5 8 Q 7 to get me out in 4th place!

                                                                      And I'm not "bragging" either, I'm just stating the facts!

                                                                      I NEVER EVER said that it was a bad way to play that "wide open" style of poker in a 30 person tourney!

                                                                      Just get two high cards in the hole and gamble like hell on the 40 60 shot (or worse) donking in for you!

                                                                      But I CONSTANTLY said that my style of consistent play would destroy that "wild" style in the long run.

                                                                      It was like the "Tortoise and the Hare" The Hare's "wild-ass gambling" style of play might have worked AT FIRST, but it will NOT beat the ever consistent tortoise in the end!


                                                                      And it was all proven true right down the line in the game for the cash!
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                                                                      • blankoblanco
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                                                                        And your proof that your style of play is better than theirs in the "long run" is... the result of one tournament. Okay, buddy. Here's a pat on the head. You tried
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