I'm an agent for over 10 years, I never stiff my players. And this is how I make sure my players don't stiff me. We exchange personal contact information. Home and work address, etc. If a player stiff me, I'll make sure to break his legs, no questions asked. But so far no one stiffed me and I never stiffed anyone. All my players are word of mouth from other players.
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keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
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Ravy PacerSBR Sharp- 10-30-09
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#37Sure keeshen. The tough guy thing is obsolete, and you have not or will not break anybody's legs.Comment -
tullamoreSBR MVP- 07-17-07
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#38Originally posted by keeshen1I'm an agent for over 10 years, I never stiff my players. And this is how I make sure my players don't stiff me. We exchange personal contact information. Home and work address, etc. If a player stiff me, I'll make sure to break his legs, no questions asked. But so far no one stiffed me and I never stiffed anyone. All my players are word of mouth from other players.
You taking on any new clients.Comment -
smitch124SBR Posting Legend
- 05-19-08
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#39he joined for that post
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poker_dummy101Restricted User- 11-03-08
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#40what kind of name is keeshen?
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keyboardingSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-30-09
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#41Ghost.Comment -
whatsgood5Restricted User
- 10-13-09
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#42Originally posted by tullamoreYou taking on any new clients.
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robmpinkSBR Posting Legend
- 01-09-07
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RealSlimShadySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-24-07
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#44I have a few questions about agents:
1) What is a good % for an agent to get if he has a sheet of players and is responsible for all the players? Is 40-50% a good deal with a makeup figure?
2) I hear some books offer a % of all action under a sheet. This discourages an agent from leaving after the sheet has a huge makeup. 1% is often mentioned. Is that a good deal for the agent?Comment -
20Four7SBR Hall of Famer
- 04-08-07
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#45It's Chinese for Bull Shit....... that's what kind of name it is.Originally posted by poker_dummy101what kind of name is keeshen?
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keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
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#46Yea. I only take clients that lives in my area, within 1 hour driving distance away from me. And new clients has to deposit first before they wager. I use bankroll system for all my recent new clients. Whatever amount of money they deposit is what they'll have available to wager with in my PPH site that I provide for my clients. Unlike Pinnacle or other books, I allow my customers to withdraw money whenever they want, and of course it's all in cash.Originally posted by tullamoreYou taking on any new clients.Comment -
whatsgood5Restricted User
- 10-13-09
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#47Where do you live? You seem like the kinda guy I'd want to do business withOriginally posted by keeshen1Yea. I only take clients that lives in my area, within 1 hour driving distance away from me. And new clients has to deposit first before they wager. I use bankroll system for all my recent new clients. Whatever they deposit is what they'll have available in my PPH site. Unlike Pinnacle or other books, I allow my customers to withdraw money whenever they want, and of course it's all in cash.
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$tinkySBR Rookie
- 04-26-09
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#48You've been an agent for 10 years and you've never been stiffed?Originally posted by keeshen1I'm an agent for over 10 years, I never stiff my players. And this is how I make sure my players don't stiff me. We exchange personal contact information. Home and work address, etc. If a player stiff me, I'll make sure to break his legs, no questions asked. But so far no one stiffed me and I never stiffed anyone. All my players are word of mouth from other players.
I call bullshit.Comment -
keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
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#49Originally posted by $tinkyYou've been an agent for 10 years and you've never been stiffed?
I call bullshit.
I'm not asking you to believe me. I don't really care if you do or not. I mind my own business and you need to mind yours. I don't give a rat's ass about what your business is.
And if you have any common sense, you need to think about this. If a bookie knows where you live and where you work at, you will not have the guts to stiff him. That's all I have to say.Comment -
BrickSBR Wise Guy
- 08-13-09
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#50Bookies dont scare me, and if you had any common sense and i stiffed you, you would think twice about coming to my house. Thats all i have to say.Originally posted by keeshen1I'm not asking you to believe me. I don't really care if you do or not. I mind my own business and you need to mind yours. I don't give a rat's ass about what your business is.
And if you have any common sense, you need to think about this. If a bookie knows where you live and where you work at, you will not have the guts to stiff him. That's all I have to say.Comment -
keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
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#51Hey, you want to endanger your life OR the lives of your loved ones, be my guest!! Obviously you're a big mouth that's never been shot before. Think twice about saying if bookies scare you or not. That's all I have to say and I'm not kidding. I gaurantee you on that one. And I gaurantee that if you stiff a bookie, and he points a gun to your head, you'll pee in your pants. Seriously, what can YOU do when someone points a gun to your head? Yea, WHAT can YOU do besides peeing in your pants? Yea, nothing except cry to mommy and daddy. That's what I thought.Originally posted by BrickBookies dont scare me, and if you had any common sense and i stiffed you, you would think twice about coming to my house. Thats all i have to say.
This is why I use bankroll system for new clients. Deposit first, build up your bankroll, and withdraw whenever you want. For my old clients, there's mutual trust in us and we're all happy dealing with each other. So no problems with my old trusted clients.
In this business, it's about trust.Comment -
BrickSBR Wise Guy
- 08-13-09
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#52Ok, let me ask you this. How big of a stiff job would it take before you would go to a guys house to break his legs?Comment -
BrickSBR Wise Guy
- 08-13-09
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#53Yeah, and what fantasy land do you live in where you go around putting guns to guys heads and getting away with it? This is beyond retarded.Comment -
keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
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#54Never thought of it because I avoid situations like this.
For some of my old customers that plays heavy duty amount of $20,000 a week, I make them deposit 50% first. It's really easy with how i do this. It's just like Sportsbook, Bodog, or whatever. Except I pay cash and customers can withdraw money whenever they want. Unlike Sportsbook or Bodog or other websites, I don't send out paychecks to people's houses, and I don't charge additional fee if customers request to withdraw more than once a month. I like this bankroll system and so does my customers. Never had any complaints so far.Comment -
BrickSBR Wise Guy
- 08-13-09
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#55Ok, if your talking 20k then it is more understandable for that stuff to happen. Didnt think you were talking that much money.Comment -
keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
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#56I do have some small bettor old customers that plays $1000 a week. Those are the ones I don't make them pay a deposit first and be on the bankroll system. The bankroll system is only for my big customers and for new customers.Originally posted by BrickOk, if your talking 20k then it is more understandable for that stuff to happen. Didnt think you were talking that much money.Comment -
teaserpleaserBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-14-08
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#57people dont have guns where you live? That shit wouldnt fly in my neck of the woods.Originally posted by keeshen1Hey, you want to endanger your life OR the lives of your loved ones, be my guest!! Obviously you're a big mouth that's never been shot before. Think twice about saying if bookies scare you or not. That's all I have to say and I'm not kidding. I gaurantee you on that one. And I gaurantee that if you stiff a bookie, and he points a gun to your head, you'll pee in your pants. Seriously, what can YOU do when someone points a gun to your head? Yea, WHAT can YOU do besides peeing in your pants? Yea, nothing except cry to mommy and daddy. That's what I thought.
This is why I use bankroll system for new clients. Deposit first, build up your bankroll, and withdraw whenever you want. For my old clients, there's mutual trust in us and we're all happy dealing with each other. So no problems with my old trusted clients.
In this business, it's about trust.Comment -
BigDaddySBR Hall of Famer- 02-01-06
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#58book needs to payComment -
keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
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#59No they don't. The agent pays the book for their software. The book don't give a shit what's going on between the players and the agents.Originally posted by BigDaddybook needs to pay
We agents pays them for each of our players that uses their online accounts. It's that simple.Comment -
duritoSBR Posting Legend- 07-03-06
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#60Don't make shit up.Originally posted by keeshen1Unlike Pinnacle or other books, I allow my customers to withdraw money whenever they want, and of course it's all in cash.
I got a pinny withdrawal today in a matter of minutes for more than your operation makes in a decade.Comment -
CollegeProSBR MVP
- 02-23-09
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#61where are you from?Originally posted by keeshen1No they don't. The agent pays the book for their software. The book don't give a shit what's going on between the players and the agents.
We agents pays them for each of our players that uses their online accounts. It's that simple.Comment -
BrickSBR Wise Guy
- 08-13-09
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#62oh boyComment -
purecarnaggeSBR MVP
- 10-05-07
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#63I might have a broken leg, but you'll have a closed caskett.Originally posted by keeshen1If a player stiff me, I'll make sure to break his legs, no questions asked.Comment -
ScooterSBR MVP
- 01-15-07
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#64Justin7 - What happened with this case? Any resolution?Originally posted by Justin7Should the book pay the player?
I have a case I'm reviewing now. A book had credit and post-up. The player plays on credit, wins, and wants to get paid. Agent stiffs the player.
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keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
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#65No, you would. You'll have a broken leg and bullets through your head and body. You won't die with a full body, I gaurantee that.Originally posted by purecarnaggeI might have a broken leg, but you'll have a closed caskett.Comment -
keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
- 17
#66I don't make shit up like you. So you're telling everyone here Bodog, Sportsbook, and other generic websites pays you "in a matter of minutes?" Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! You're a funny one!Originally posted by duritoDon't make shit up.
I got a pinny withdrawal today in a matter of minutes for more than your operation makes in a decade.
Everyone knows those generic betting websites sends a paycheck to your house when you request it. And when you request more than once a month, they'll charge you an extra fee. I require my customers to pay deposit, they build up their bankroll, and can withdraw whenever they want. The next day, I deliver the cash to them in person. It's as simple as that. No hassle at all.
Betting through a local bookie that provide their players with a PPH site is the best way to go.Comment -
WileOutSBR MVP
- 02-04-07
- 3844
#67I don't know much about the book-agent-player system, but for other businesses, if the employee acting on behalf of a business steals from a customer, the business owes the money to the customer.
I would think maybe the same logic applies here but then again I've never dealt with an agent. Only straight with a bookie.Comment -
$tinkySBR Rookie
- 04-26-09
- 18
#68All you're doing is letting everybody know that you're full of shit.Originally posted by keeshen1No, you would. You'll have a broken leg and bullets through your head and body. You won't die with a full body, I gaurantee that.Comment -
keeshen1SBR Rookie
- 11-28-09
- 17
#69Originally posted by $tinkyAll you're doing is letting everybody know that you're full of shit.
Right..... and you think I really care about what some idiotic douche bag couch patatoes like you over the internet thinks? Hahahaha!!!
I welcome you to come try me if you don't believe it. Trust me, you won't die with a full body if you dare to try. I gaurantee it.Comment -
gambleballsSBR Sharp
- 10-15-07
- 466
#70Wow. I guess I need to hire you for collections.Comment
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