Yeah it was and you should be fortunate that I'm even wasting my time with someone like you. I bring it up because there is a distinct difference between someone who is black and someone who is brown. Most people in North Africa are brown whereas most people in the rest of Africa are black. You can say that they are all African which is true but they are not the same.
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Another wasteful racist rant. Thanks for nothing.Comment -
Let me know when you graduated from Hitler's Youth.Comment -
I was pro Africa until Jibby let me know that Internet scams come from there.Most of West Africa is poor, crime ridden, corrupt governments and turning extreme Muslim rapidly.. Somalia comes to mind... West Africa is a mess..
Alot of internet scams come from West Africa as well.. It's a disaster over there and probably only getting worse.. Immigrants now pouring into Europe on old ships to the beach shores trying to evade.. Alot of the ships sink and alot of West Africans die at sea... Kinda sad... Europe trying to stop it now as they are getting over run...
Fukk Africa.
Thanks for opening my eyes as you always do JibbsComment -
Black activists in America really need to stop bitching and moaning about past injustices and need to get to work and do something more productive with their lives... Drinking 40's all day, aspiring to be rap artists, collecting Government checks and protesting is getting old.
Notice it's always the unemployed people out protesting in the middle of the day on a work week that are screaming the loudest.. Media eats it up.. Pathetic!!! Nobody owes anyone anything when it comes to race in America today..
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This shouldnt be a black or white issue. The original poster is correct. if the African teams, however, had the same resources and played against European competitions instead of other shitty African teams I believe they would be just as good as the top European teams. You guys like to say we are more athletic and if the exact same resources were earned or given we probably would dominate soccer.Comment -
This turned into a race thing what a shockerComment -
Good for you man... What exactly are you a black activist for?
I'm a white dude and I'm not an activist for white injustices.. Shit happens, that's life, get over it, power thru it and move on. Most people of race are treated equal I believe in America today..
With that being said - I see no need to biitch and moan about shit that doesn't happen very often or that has happened 70 years ago...
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I hate that excuse heard it a thousand times,where do you think South America got it's resources from,Brazil and Mexico were always stuck in squaller, Uruguay what money and competition and yet here they are.
You never have and never will dominate Soccer,can't win every Sport my man.Comment -
id expect some euro countries and maybe other places have scooped some of the african talent up early and some of those players are playing for those adopted countriesComment -
If you put the best black players together from Europe and distributed them back to the Teams in Africa,what would they do with the Talent,can't say.
Not been overly impressed with France this WC,all the talk of them being the most skilled,haven't shown us much really.
England's best black players.are probably Sterling and Rashford, Sterling is from Jamaica originally,but probably considers himself English.Comment -
semi-grunching.....
as mentioned by others, you have to differentiate north africa (arabs?... at least the teams that seem to qualify, along the med sea) and west africa blacks...... you'd also probably have to differentiate east africa and southern africa (completely opposite body types than west africa), but these teams don't make it that much.
not sure why expectations for northern africa would be too high... the talent/players aren't that great (salah and zidane excluded)....
west africa is interesting........ immigrants and people with parents from those countries contribute alot to france's great teams as well as many of the european teams. and lots of excellent players from these countries (senegal, nigeria, ghana, ivory coast, cameroon etc..)...... these teams have definitely underperformed .... you'd think they could destroy white european teams by simply pushing the pace and making runs in the attacking zone..... but they seem to constantly do poorly. someone mentioned depth, of which i know little..... but i do know these team's players often had huge problems with their soccer federations, like not getting paid even though they have contractual rights. or getting paid very late....... so i would ask if these players are motivated on a sub-conscious (or even conscious) level.......... note: not sure if this is true of all teams in west africaComment -
good point........... i don't really know... but i think most of france's players grew up in that country even if they were born elsewhere. so they could played for either on a sound logical basis.. in other words, i don't think france has african "ringers" but i might be wrongComment -
i looked into this on a limited sample size...... looked at guardian's top 100 soccer players..... 15 are black. there were only 3 not born in the country they play for.
of the 3 players, 2 moved to their soccer power country at very young age.... and the 3rd i couldn't figure out but he was from tiny country (guadeloupe)....... so by my basic detective world, there are no national team black player ringers in top 100 players
fyi, 9 of 15 play for france...... senegal, england, austria, guinea, germany have the others.... note i did this fast so there could be slight error.
i looked at france golden age (late 90's) and black players i could remember........of the 5 i remember, 2 from france (zidane, henry), 3 from ghana/senegal/guadeloupe (desailly, viera, thurman) but all came to france very early in life...
a country like france has such a large population i don't think they need to raid other countries any longer. and judging 10 year olds is very very imprecise to say the least.
mac brings up a good point on poverty..... i am surprised that only 14 of top 100 soccer players are black. not sure why it wouldn't be much closer to NBA average..... but i've been wondering how many black NBA players come from extremely large and poor single parent families... seems like a ton of black NBA players seem to come from fairly stable home situations (at least according to black average)......Comment -
yes, i knew that (i had mentioned north vs. west africa in an earlier post) but thank you as i probably mixed subjects as i wrote my comments ........... i was just wondering about france using african ringers (all of africa...... and then also blacks from places like guadeloupe too) and they don't seem to.
zidane is a bit of an anamoly.......... has france had many top international players of north african heritage? of course, zidane pretty much justifies this category on his ownComment -
somalia... west africa.......... did they move somalia?
JB, i actually didn't realize that the west africa was so muslim (certainly nowhere near a majority) until i googled after your comment....... and this is a serious comment, had no idea there were so many muslims (forgot about olajuwon and to some extent their civil war) in nigeria and some of the other largish countries. definitely big roman catholic influence tooComment -
No problem mate,yeah Zidane definitely was unique in that sense for sure,some countries have a number of really good players,and some have that one really great player and the rest are a step behind.
I can't think of any other players of Algerian decent that did anything in France when you mention it,and their is quite a large Algerian community in France.Comment -
We already covered Somalia not being in West Africa my bad.. Still a shiiit hole Country that is in the region and in Africa.. A simple mistake sue me...somalia... west africa.......... did they move somalia?
JB, i actually didn't realize that the west africa was so muslim (certainly nowhere near a majority) until i googled after your comment....... and this is a serious comment, had no idea there were so many muslims (forgot about olajuwon and to some extent their civil war) in nigeria and some of the other largish countries. definitely big roman catholic influence too
Watch the movie Black Hawk Down that will give ya an idea of Somalia.. Good movie to you'll like it..
Pirating crime at sea is out of control over there and mainly comes from that part of the Country also..
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Ivory Coast missing the World Cup was pretty disappointing[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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Spot you are racist as hell Lol. Mac you can't argue with a racist man. He just said he is genetically superior lolComment -
I am going to Google how much money USA send to other countries and the break down, including military spending to help certain countries fight against extremistsComment -
Unfortunately, most sports are becoming games for the well off. You can be a great athlete but many sports require fundamentals that you can only get at expensive camps and training facilities. Here in the US, soccer is predominantly Hispanic and middle class to wealthy whites. There's several exclusive clubs here in Houston that you have to have $$$ to attend. This cuts out most inner city youth. Soccer, Lacrosse, Golf, takes money to play. Hell Baseball and basketball are becoming expensive sports as well. You're not going to play against the top competition unless you cough up $$. What saves the inner city kids in basketball and football are sponsorship's. If you don't have money to gain access for your kids to play sports, they are going to be left behind.
Until soccer starts investing in youth, we are going to continue to see what we see now. A US that has some of the best athletes in the world but they choose other sports than soccer. Take a few kids in these AAU basketball leagues and teach them how to play soccer and in just a few years the US would be dominating the sport. I watch a lot of youth sports and you will find no better athletes than the kids playing AAU basketball. Stamina, foot speed and athleticism. Why soccer doesn't recruit these kids is beyond stupid???Comment -
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