A deputy could have done something the shooting and did nothing.

[HurryUpAndDrink]

I don't think we have uncovered the true reason yet... wait until it is reported that the deputies were ordered to stand down. Huge cover-up to this point.

Yep, I'm inclined to believe they were held back...

Listen I'm no GI Joe... I am a little crazy yes but to think me, a normal guy would stand down when armed AND SUPPORTED by 3 other cops... no way man, we going in... 2 guys distract, 2 guys attack, is that simple...

These guys are trained, and were 4-1. I think they were told to stand down.

[dlowilly]

The name "Scott Peterson" has had a rough century so far

[Snowball]

NO less then at least FOUR of them did not go in the building
and there was a 20-minute rewind on school security cameras
tell me how Cruz re-wound the cameras.
But don't worry, it's all legit and you know the truth.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/parkland-school-shooting-broward-deputies/index.html

[Bluehorseshoe]

The name "Scott Peterson" has had a rough century so far

One can kill.....one can't.

[dlowilly]

One can kill.....one can't.

They just needed to trade places

[JIBBBY]

I don't think we have uncovered the true reason yet... wait until it is reported that the deputies were ordered to stand down. Huge cover-up to this point.

Stand down order while you stand there and listen to kids screaming and getting shot, umm IDK?.. I think you ignore that order and go in and try to save kids...

I'm not buying a stand down order.. Most cops would not stand down in that situation I don't think anyways in the moment.. He or they had to know kids were getting slaughtered...

I'm going in if I had a gun and I'm not even a cop.. Fock that!!!!

[dlowilly]

Stand down order while you stand there and listen to kids screaming and getting shot, umm IDK?.. I think you ignore that order and go in and try to save kids...

I'm not buying a stand down order.. Most cops would not stand down in that situation I don't think anyway in the moment.. He or they had to know kids were getting slaughtered...

I don't know about these other 3 guys but Scott Peterson resigned immediately after it came out that he didn't go in. I don't think someone would resign if they were ordered to stand down.

[JIBBBY]

I don't know about these other 3 guys but Scott Peterson resigned immediately after it came out that he didn't go in. I don't think someone would resign if they were ordered to stand down.

Great point and I agree...

[magaman]

People do crazy things during a cover up. I don't know more than any of you... but I also don't think 4 county deputies can just stand there and do nothing. One guy pissing his pants... disgusting but seems plausible. Four guys standing with their dick in their hand... No there is something else in play

[mrpapageorgio]

I guarantee if any of those chicken shiiiit cops had their own kid in the school at the time they would have charged in guns a blazing..

That's is something to consider..

These cops just didn't care about the kids that much.. Selfish and don't deserve to wear a badge... They knew what was going on.. They had to know kids were getting shot and killed...

Law enforcement FAIL!!!!!

And the thing is, this guy could've killed the shooter without facing him. The officer had one advantage the shooter didn't, the element of surprise. An active shooter's goal is to cause as much carnage as possible, so he doesn't have the luxury of being discrete or hiding since that hinders his goal. The officer, could've used his knowledge of the layout of the school to his advantage in going in and finding the shooter by the sound of the gunshots.

The best case scenario would be getting behind the shooter and putting a round in his back without him even realizing what hit him. Is there more than one hallway to get around the shooter and get behind him? Is there a room/storage with multiple exits like a storage room where you can go in one end and out the other to get behind the shooter and take an open shot at him?

Even if you have to face him, you try to find cover before engaging him. Then when you engage him, if you miss, take cover. He's going to have to come to you now if he wants to take you out (and him focusing his attention on you is taking his attention away from other potential victims). If he has to get close to you since you're behind cover to try and take you out, his AR is not as useful as your handgun at close contact. By then, he may turn the gun on himself since a lot of these shooters are on a suicide mission and in the past turned the gun on themselves when they felt the cops were closing in. He didn't have to go in guns blazing like Rambo and been an open target (and ruin your surprise advantage). Instead, he did nothing and let 17 people die.

[magaman]

And the thing is, this guy could've killed the shooter without facing him. The officer had one advantage the shooter didn't, the element of surprise. An active shooter's goal is to cause as much carnage as possible, so he doesn't have the luxury of being discrete or hiding since that hinders his goal. The officer, could've used his knowledge of the layout of the school to his advantage in going in and finding the shooter by the sound of the gunshots.

The best case scenario would be getting behind the shooter and putting a round in his back without him even realizing what hit him. Is there more than one hallway to get around the shooter and get behind him? Is there a room/storage with multiple exits like a storage room where you can go in one end and out the other to get behind the shooter and take an open shot at him?

Even if you have to face him, you try to find cover before engaging him. Then when you engage him, if you miss, take cover. He's going to have to come to you now if he wants to take you out (and him focusing his attention on you is taking his attention away from other potential victims). If he has to get close to you since you're behind cover to try and take you out, his AR is not as useful as your handgun at close contact. By then, he may turn the gun on himself since a lot of these shooters are on a suicide mission and in the past turned the gun on themselves when they felt the cops were closing in. He didn't have to go in guns blazing like Rambo and been an open target (and ruin your surprise advantage). Instead, he did nothing and let 17 people die.

Logic and knowledge does not work here... JJ will keep providing excuses for inaction

[RudyRuetigger]

Let's see what kids didn't go to school that day

[chico2663]

Here's what is wrong...most of you momos are more than likely to young to remember a time when a police officer couldn't even apply for a job unless he met certain height and weight standards. Then one day some lonely housewife decided women shouldn't be the only ones to raise kids and decided it was time to be equal with their male counterparts. The problem with that is we aren't equal. Women are very good at doing certain things and the same goes for men, however we are not equal. Anyway this ignorant house wife, probably a Democrat to boot, decided to apply for the police force and was turned down because she did not meet the height requirement of 6 foot or greater. So she decided to sue and a whole bunch of women jumped on board with her and the by-product of that is some worthless pos standing outside of a school while kids inside are getting massacred.

Gone are the days where the best person for the job is hired. And now you're seeing a rash of police shootings because cops are so afraid of their own damn shadows and it all goes back to that lonely housewife. Im pro police however the majority of the men in blue are weak. But the police need to have a certain amount of blacks, whites, Mexicans, women, gays or the municipality gets sued...let's not blame the coward that didn't enter the school. Blame the phuckin liberals for having these BS affirmative action laws in place. The best man or woman for the job...regardless of color.

been saying that for yrs. When i grew up you never backed talked a cop cause they would beat your ass. I have a scar over my left eye brow to prove it.

[cincinnatikid513]

I’m no coward, says deputy who didn’t go inside Parkland school during massacre

Broward Deputy Scot Peterson says he is no coward.
The longtime campus cop at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High has been nationally ridiculed over the last week for his response to a mass shooter on campus — including by no less than President Donald Trump, who on Monday proclaimed that he likely would have charged in himself, even unarmed.
On Monday, Peterson pushed back against the critics in his first public statement, essentially arguing he did the right things in an uncertain, chaotic situation. “Allegations that Mr. Peterson was a coward and that his performance, under the circumstances, failed to meet the standards of police officers are patently untrue,” according to the statement sent from Fort Lauderdale attorney Joseph DiRuzzo.

Last week, Broward Sheriff Scott Israel took the extraordinary step of singling out Peterson for failing to engage with confessed killer Nikolas Cruz as he gunned down 17 people — an accusation that has turned the one-time school resource officer of the year into a political scapegoat for a string of local and federal law enforcement errors revolving around Cruz.

Peterson said he did not storm the halls looking for the shooter because he initially “heard gunshots but believed those gunshots were originating from outside of the buildings on the school campus,” according to the statement. “BSO trains its officers that in the event of outdoor gunfire one is to seek cover and assess the situation in order to communicate what one observes with other law enforcement.”

He “took up a tactical position” between two other buildings next to Building 12, where Cruz spent six minutes unleashing gunfire with an AR-15 assault-style rifle.
“Let there be no mistake,’’ DiRuzzo’s statement continued, “Mr. Peterson wishes that he could have prevented the untimely passing of the 17 victims on that day.”

The response from Peterson comes four days after Israel, in a stunning revelation, called a press conference to suggest that Peterson had failed in his duty to engage Cruz, who slipped away but was soon captured off school grounds. The sheriff said Peterson waited outside Building 12 for four full minutes while Cruz continued the slaughter inside. Officers are generally taught to engage active shooters immediately and not wait for backup.
“I am devastated. Sick to my stomach. He never went in,” Israel said during that news conference Thursday.

It wasn’t until the following week that Israel confirmed a report from Coral Springs officers that Peterson might not have been the only deputy waiting outside the building. BSO is also looking into the actions of three other deputies who arrived on the scene than took up positions behind their vehicles, guns drawn.

Though some Stoneman Douglas students have defended him, critics have piled on Peterson since, including the National Rifle Association, which has pointed at his inaction to push back against proposals to tighten gun laws. On Monday, even as he urged lawmakers to ban bump stocks and strengthen background checks, President Trump added to the chorus of criticism.

“You don’t know until you’re tested, but I really believe I’d run in there even if I didn’t have a weapon,” Trump told a meeting of governors at the White House. The deputies, he said, “weren’t exactly Medal of Honor winners,” and “the way they performed was frankly disgusting.”

In the days since, Israel himself also has been blasted by critics, some of whom have called for his resignation. In addition to questions about the response to the shooting, the department has revealed that deputies also fielded multiple reports in recent years that Cruz might be a threat to schools.

DiRuzzo also ripped into Israel, saying he prematurely criticized Peterson while cautioning the public to wait for the results of a fast-moving investigation.
“Sheriff Israel’s statement is, at best, a gross oversimplification of the events that transpired,” the statement said
Hours before the press conference, BSO suspended the longtime deputy without pay, but he promptly retired. Peterson, a 32-year veteran, was named school resource officer of the year in Parkland four years ago.


While Israel had no problems speaking openly about Peterson last week, the department on Monday changed course.
“The case is an active internal affairs investigation. In accordance with Florida law, we are prohibited from discussing any details until the case has concluded,” according to a statement released by BSO.
BSO’s policy states that an officer “may” — not “must” — enter a building when an active shooter is attacking, meaning Peterson might not have violated any technical rules. Still, police tactical experts say, most active-shooter training calls for cops to identify the location of a gunman, whether inside or outside.
“If the gunfire is directed at you, it would make sense to try and seek a position of cover,” said Pete Blair, Executive Director of the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training (ALERRT) Center at Texas State University. “If it wasn’t, we encourage officers to try and find the source of the gunfire.”
Jeff Bell, the president of BSO’s police union, said Monday that he didn’t think Peterson was a coward but does think the campus cop did not do enough that day.
“I’m sorry, after 100 to 120 rounds being fired, if he still can’t figure out where the gunfire is coming from, then there are issues,” said Bell, the head of the Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association, which is not representing Peterson.
In the statement, Peterson claimed he took up a position outside Building 12 after rushing over to respond to a report of firecrackers. He and security specialist Kelvin Greenleaf ran out another building on the sprawling campus and ran “a couple hundred yards” north to Building 12.
Peterson said that he was the first BSO deputy to dispatch on the radio that shots were being fired. Neither Peterson nor his lawyer said whether the officer saw any students rushing from the building, or any alarming activity through the windows of Building 12 that would suggest an active shooter inside.
He also claimed that he told a first-arriving Coral Springs officer that he “thought that the shots were coming from outside.”

“Radio transmissions indicated that there was a gunshot victim in the area of the football field, which served to confirm Mr. Peterson’s belief that the shooter, or shooters, were outside,” according to the lawyer.
Peterson also said he “had the presence of mind” to have school officials review closed-circuit TV cameras “to locate the shooter,” while later giving Coral Springs SWAT officers the keys to the building so they could enter.
BSO’s response to the shooting has become a hotly debated political issue, with some Republican lawmakers calling for the ouster of the Democrat sheriff, who was first elected in 2012. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement, at request of Gov. Rick Scott, is now reviewing if BSO and other police agencies responded correctly to what became the deadliest school shooting in state history.
The same day that Israel called out Peterson, the department also released a timeline of 23 interactions that BSO had with Cruz and his family over the past decade.
At least two of those interactions remain under investigation by BSO’s internal affairs unit, including a 2016 tip that Peterson was alerted that Cruz might pose a threat to a school. Peterson’s lawyer did not address whether Peterson properly investigated Cruz in that earlier case.

[mrpapageorgio]

Take the source for what its worth, but on her show tonight she's claiming the deputies that first arrived were ordered to not enter the building unless their body cams were on. They didn't have cameras so they did not enter.

[magaman]

Take the source for what its worth, but on her show tonight she's claiming the deputies that first arrived were ordered to not enter the building unless their body cams were on. They didn't have cameras so they did not enter.

Who's show are you talking about?

I heard this about orders to stand down a few days ago... it will all come out eventually. That sheriff is toast.

[mrpapageorgio]

Who's show are you talking about?

I heard this about orders to stand down a few days ago... it will all come out eventually. That sheriff is toast.

Laura Ingraham. Sorry was multitasking and forgot to proofread.

[JIBBBY]

If you are a deputy with any amount of self worth and dignity standing outside and hearing shots being fired and all those kids screaming and dying, you ignore those orders and you go in.. I don't care... Chicken shits all of them!!!.. I'd charge in to save kids if I was wearing a badge and had a gun.... I couldn't stand around and just hear little kids being slaughtered and screaming..

There is no excuse for not trying to stop the threat in a school shooting scenario.. SORRY!!! You are law enforcement and you have the element of surprise.... Your job is to protect and serve!!!! Cowards!!! All of them..

[Mac4Lyfe]

Here's what is wrong...most of you momos are more than likely to young to remember a time when a police officer couldn't even apply for a job unless he met certain height and weight standards. Then one day some lonely housewife decided women shouldn't be the only ones to raise kids and decided it was time to be equal with their male counterparts. The problem with that is we aren't equal. Women are very good at doing certain things and the same goes for men, however we are not equal. Anyway this ignorant house wife, probably a Democrat to boot, decided to apply for the police force and was turned down because she did not meet the height requirement of 6 foot or greater. So she decided to sue and a whole bunch of women jumped on board with her and the by-product of that is some worthless pos standing outside of a school while kids inside are getting massacred.
Gone are the days where the best person for the job is hired. And now you're seeing a rash of police shootings because cops are so afraid of their own damn shadows and it all goes back to that lonely housewife. Im pro police however the majority of the men in blue are weak. But the police need to have a certain amount of blacks, whites, Mexicans, women, gays or the municipality gets sued...let's not blame the coward that didn't enter the school. Blame the phuckin liberals for having these BS affirmative action laws in place. The best man or woman for the job...regardless of color.

Are you fukkking nuts? You criticize woman and minorities for wanting to be cops AND your reasoning for them to not be cops is because a white man didn't protect the kids because he was a scared little bitch??? What the fukk does affirmative action have to do with this? Was this white male deputy the best person for the job? Do you want more of these cowards on the force? I'm thinking a woman would have better responded than this fukk.

What the fukk does liberals have to do with this as well? The shooter and this deputy were both Trump supporters/Republicans. Yet you've weaved this into some political bullshit in order to blame the other side. You toe the party line bullshit is what is wrong with this country. You can only be on one side, so you can't even see through your hypocrisy because you are fukkking blinded to the side you think is right. You Republicans and Democrats are both fukked up. You staunch liberals and conservatives are both fukkking nuts. Uncompromising Dems/Reps is what is wrong with this country. Both of you fukks from both sides is what is dividing this country. You both claim you're Patriots but neither understand the power of agreement. It's always about putting someone down and not being able to think for yourselves.

You lost all credibility when you bashed women as cops but the fukkking coward was male.

[Mac4Lyfe]

If you are a deputy with any amount of self worth and dignity standing outside and hearing shots being fired and all those kids screaming and dying, you ignore those orders and you go in.. I don't care... Chicken shits all of them!!!.. I'd charge in to save kids if I was wearing a badge and had a gun.... I couldn't stand around and just hear little kids being slaughtered and screaming..
There is no excuse for not trying to stop the threat in a school shooting scenario.. SORRY!!! You are law enforcement and you have the element of surprise.... Your job is to protect and serve!!!! Cowards!!! All of them..

I'd like to think that I would rush in to save the kids BUT I'm not so sure how I would react when faced with the ominous sounds of gunfire. I've had several real life situations where I had to run for my life at the sound of gunshots in a crowd. I've also been shot at close range 4 times. You don't even think, you run like a bitch. Which is the reason I've never, ever considered law enforcement because I'd never want to be faced with that choice.

It now looks like 4 cops didn't engage. If true, this tells me that they were not properly trained. When you don't know what to do... you tend to do nothing. Their inaction's are most likely a result of poor training on how to neutralize that situation. You have to train officers to not even think but to react and go in immediately. The training must be comprehensive, thorough and concise. Of course, you will find people that will heroically rush in but without training those people most likely end up as additional casualties. I don't understand why most cops are poorly trained around the country. We see this play out all over the country and it always comes back to poor training.

[The Kraken]

If you are a deputy with any amount of self worth and dignity standing outside and hearing shots being fired and all those kids screaming and dying, you ignore those orders and you go in.. I don't care... Chicken shits all of them!!!.. I'd charge in to save kids if I was wearing a badge and had a gun.... I couldn't stand around and just hear little kids being slaughtered and screaming..

There is no excuse for not trying to stop the threat in a school shooting scenario.. SORRY!!! You are law enforcement and you have the element of surprise.... Your job is to protect and serve!!!! Cowards!!! All of them..

Wouldn't have mattered

Did you know when Americas finest cops are in shootouts their hit rate is 18%, and when the other person doesn't have a fun they still only hit 30% of the time

There was a greater than 80% chance even if the cop went in he would've just killed more kids

And Trump wants to arm teachers

Only in Murica

[JIBBBY]

I'd like to think that I would rush in to save the kids BUT I'm not so sure how I would react when faced with the ominous sounds of gunfire. I've had several real life situations where I had to run for my life at the sound of gunshots in a crowd. I've also been shot at close range 4 times. You don't even think, you run like a bitch. Which is the reason I've never, ever considered law enforcement because I'd never want to be faced with that choice.

It now looks like 4 cops didn't engage. If true, this tells me that they were not properly trained. When you don't know what to do... you tend to do nothing. Their inaction's are most likely a result of poor training on how to neutralize that situation. You have to train officers to not even think but to react and go in immediately. The training must be comprehensive, thorough and concise. Of course, you will find people that will heroically rush in but without training those people most likely end up as additional casualties. I don't understand why most cops are poorly trained around the country. We see this play out all over the country and it always comes back to poor training.

These cops have guns, wearing vests and they are law enforcement.. They've had training.. I'm not buying that.. We saw heroic Coaches and Janitors rush in and try and stop the threat and died...

No excuse Mac when you are wearing a badge, vest and have a gun.. You know kids are getting blasted and you know it's a school... Bottom line..

I gave this some thought.. I understand freezing under pressure situations and for most civilians that's ok.. When you have 4 armed cops doing nothing I see a problem there..

[The Kraken]

If you are a deputy with any amount of self worth and dignity standing outside and hearing shots being fired and all those kids screaming and dying, you ignore those orders and you go in.. I don't care... Chicken shits all of them!!!.. I'd charge in to save kids if I was wearing a badge and had a gun.... I couldn't stand around and just hear little kids being slaughtered and screaming..

There is no excuse for not trying to stop the threat in a school shooting scenario.. SORRY!!! You are law enforcement and you have the element of surprise.... Your job is to protect and serve!!!! Cowards!!! All of them..

Plus, sure as fukk easy saying what you woulda done when you're sitting in your lazy boy and typing on a laptop. Until you've been there, you don't know what you would've done. Im sure that deputy thought the same as you and when the time came, things didn't go quite according to plan.

So save us all your machoism and arrogance, you're just being a keyboard warrior

[JIBBBY]

Plus, sure as fukk easy saying what you woulda done when you're sitting in your lazy boy and typing on a laptop. Until you've been there, you don't know what you would've done. Im sure that deputy thought the same as you and when the time came, things didn't go quite according to plan.

So save us all your machoism and arrogance, you're just being a keyboard warrior

You don't know me Kraken don't go there... I know I'd give my life to try and save kids. I wouldn't want to but I'd do it.. I know I would especially if I had a gun, wearing a vest and that was my job..

Not all of us freeze and panic. Some of us can understand and process the situation quickly and will go for it and not just stand around and listen to kids getting slaughtered behind a wall....

[The Kraken]

You don't know me Kraken don't go there... I know I'd give my life to try and save kids. I wouldn't want to but I'd do it.. I know I would...

I don't need to know you, the statement doesn't just apply to you it applies to everyone of us, those deputies included

You don't know what you would do until you're in that situation. Never judge another man until you've walked in his shoes, and neither you nor I have walked in those shoes

[JIBBBY]

I don't need to know you, the statement doesn't just apply to you it applies to everyone of us, those deputies included

You don't know what you would do until you're in that situation. Never judge another man until you've walked in his shoes, and neither you nor I have walked in those shoes

What ever Kraken they have a job to do and that's to protect and serve in dangerous situations.. They shouldn't be cops then if they can't do their job.. Kids were getting shot in killed in a school for God's sake.. It's pretty obvious that they knew what was going on..

[magaman]

Kraken is such a cocky lil fukhead when he talks about things he knows nothing about. You act as if this 19 year old punk is a special forces. No he is just a warped 19 year old with NO training. The second he saw or heard any fire on him, he would come unglued and the onslaught of unarmed kids would be over. If the cops did not put him down, he would be running like mad.

Need more emojis Kraken...

AS for teachers, it is the only reasonable answer, and it has proven to work very well in other places. Despite the propaganda you are hearing now on TV, there are MANY CC teachers that would very much like to carry their glock on them in the school. The stupid law forbids it. These are excellent adults that have been shooting for years, and they know how to handle their pistols. Nobody needs to ASK for anybody to carry... just rescind the stupid law, and go back to school. Teachers were carrying in schools before the stupid law, you simply didn't know.

Happy to debate and discuss, but it's very annoying when people talk shit they know NOTHING about.

[mrpapageorgio]

Wouldn't have mattered

Did you know when Americas finest cops are in shootouts their hit rate is 18%, and when the other person doesn't have a fun they still only hit 30% of the time

There was a greater than 80% chance even if the cop went in he would've just killed more kids

And Trump wants to arm teachers

Only in Murica

There's a 100% chance not going in and letting the shooter have free reign was the worst case scenario.

A lot of mass shooters turn the gun on themselves as soon as they meet resistance or sense the end is near so simply pointing the gun at him may have caused him to turn the gun on himself.

[The Kraken]

What ever Kraken they have a job to do and that's to protect and serve in dangerous situations.. They shouldn't be cops then if they can't do their job.. Kids were getting shot in killed in a school for God's sake.. It's pretty obvious that they knew what was going on..

You're all over the fukking place. You don't know the fukking situation, whether they knew where the shooter was, were they getting conflicting info about where the shooter was, does echo make it difficult to locate a shooter, etc.... Stop acting like you're anything special here. You're just another dude on the internet saying you'd have run in their and put your life on the line for those kids. How fukking noble, and convenient that you just have to type those words on the internet and not be forced to put them into action.

Such a tough guy Jibby

You're just another keyboard warrior my man

[The Kraken]

There's a 100% chance not going in and letting the shooter have free reign was the worst case scenario.

A lot of mass shooters turn the gun on themselves as soon as they meet resistance or sense the end is near so simply pointing the gun at him may have caused him to turn the gun on himself.

Again, you don't know the details. Was the officer getting conflicting info that the shooter was actually outside on the football field? Was the shooter inside on the other side of campus? Where was the officer to run to?

The shooting did not last long, and then the shooter left the premise.

I've shot a lot of guns outside over the years and I've done more training than anyone here with the OKC swat team as a medic for years. It's likely the officer had no clue where to run to, it's all monday morning qb'ing at this point

[The Kraken]

Kraken is such a cocky lil fukhead when he talks about things he knows nothing about. You act as if this 19 year old punk is a special forces. No he is just a warped 19 year old with NO training. The second he saw or heard any fire on him, he would come unglued and the onslaught of unarmed kids would be over. If the cops did not put him down, he would be running like mad.

Need more emojis Kraken...

AS for teachers, it is the only reasonable answer, and it has proven to work very well in other places. Despite the propaganda you are hearing now on TV, there are MANY CC teachers that would very much like to carry their glock on them in the school. The stupid law forbids it. These are excellent adults that have been shooting for years, and they know how to handle their pistols. Nobody needs to ASK for anybody to carry... just rescind the stupid law, and go back to school. Teachers were carrying in schools before the stupid law, you simply didn't know.

Happy to debate and discuss, but it's very annoying when people talk shit they know NOTHING about.

Again, between the two of us, Im the one that owns more than 20 guns and Im the one that has actually trained with swat teams. Pretty ironic you would end your emotional rant with that sentence....

And oh ya,

[The Kraken]

Good night you fukking snowflakes

[JIBBBY]

You're all over the fukking place. You don't know the fukking situation, whether they knew where the shooter was, were they getting conflicting info about where the shooter was, does echo make it difficult to locate a shooter, etc.... Stop acting like you're anything special here. You're just another dude on the internet saying you'd have run in their and put your life on the line for those kids. How fukking noble, and convenient that you just have to type those words on the internet and not be forced to put them into action.

Such a tough guy Jibby

You're just another keyboard warrior my man

Stay in your lane Kraken and don't judge others.. Like I said you don't know me..

Sounds like you wanna make every excuse in the book for some MEN not to try and go in and save kids from being shot to death.. Like I said Coaches and Janitors were unarmed and died trying to save the kids...

Those are the true hero's in that school shooting!!!! The Cops are the chicken shits that did nothing!!!! The shooter walked out there with other kids and got away even for a time.. It's a focking joke and kids died..

Arm that janitor and coach and they stop probably stop this shooter.. YES ARM TEACHERS that are responsible like Trump said.. That helps..

[mrpapageorgio]

Again, you don't know the details. Was the officer getting conflicting info that the shooter was actually outside on the football field? Was the shooter inside on the other side of campus? Where was the officer to run to?

The shooting did not last long, and then the shooter left the premise.

I've shot a lot of guns outside over the years and I've done more training than anyone here with the OKC swat team as a medic for years. It's likely the officer had no clue where to run to, it's all monday morning qb'ing at this point

What conflicting info was he getting and where would he get it from? There's nothing to suggest he was receiving conflicting info as if he was listening to a police radio with the dispatcher giving multiple leads that could conflict.

It's very simple where to run to; you go toward the sound of the gun shots. If you're not 100% sure, if the students are all running away from a certain direction, it's likely the shooter is in that direction.

It's called situational awareness.

[Kermit]

Stay in your lane Kraken and don't judge others.. Like I said you don't know me..

Sounds like you wanna make every excuse in the book for some MEN not to try and go in and save kids from being shot to death.. Like I said Coaches and Janitors were unarmed and died trying to save the kids...

Those are the true hero's in that school shooting!!!! The Cops are the chicken shits that did nothing!!!! The shooter walked out there with other kids and got away even for a time.. It's a focking joke and kids died..

Arm that janitor and coach and they stop probably stop this shooter.. YES ARM TEACHERS that are responsible like Trump said.. That helps..

Those guys were already right there when the shit went down and were in a flight or fight situation. It's tough to say what people on the outside should have done in such a short time, the shooting only lasted 6 minutes. Did all of these cops arrive on scene that fast? I would imagine that there was a lot of chaos when the the other cops got there.