A deputy could have done something the shooting and did nothing.

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  • Bluehorseshoe
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-06
    • 15003

    #1
    A deputy could have done something the shooting and did nothing.
    Pussy....

    Parkland, Florida (CNN)The school resource deputy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, waited outside the school building as the shooting unfolded last week, officials said.
    Scot Peterson never went in after taking a position on the west side of the building, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said at a Thursday afternoon news conference.
    Peterson resigned after he was suspended without pay by Israel pending an internal investigation into his actions during the shooting that left 17 people dead, Israel said. Peterson was eligible for retirement.

    Israel made the decision to suspend Peterson -- who was armed and in uniform at the time of the shooting -- after interviewing the deputy and reviewing footage and witness statements, he said.
    "What I saw was a deputy arrive at the west side of building 12, take up a position," Israel said of the video. "And he never went in."
    Israel told reporters Peterson should have "[w]ent in. Addressed the killer. Killed the killer." Instead, the deputy waited outside for about four minutes. During that time, Israel said, Peterson got on his radio and took a position where he could see the western entry of the building.

    Asked how he felt watching the footage, Israel said: "Devastated. Sick to my stomach. There are no words. These families lost their children. We lost coaches. I've been to the funerals, I've been to the homes where they sit and shiver. I've been to the vigils. It's just -- there are no words."
    CNN was attempting to reach Peterson for comment.
    Israel said two other deputies have been placed on restrictive duty while the sheriff's office investigates their actions during calls to the gunman's home before the shooting.
    Since 2008, he said, the sheriff's office was involved in 23 calls involving either Nikolas Cruz or his brother. During some of the calls -- which were both in person and on the phone -- deputies met with Cruz's mother.
    After speaking with the internal affairs department, Israel decided to put the deputies on restrictive duty while his office investigates "whether or not they could have done more, or should have done more," he said.
  • chico2663
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    • 09-02-10
    • 36915

    #2
    dude a semi auto against a hand gun is a death wish
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    • Bluehorseshoe
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      • 07-13-06
      • 15003

      #3
      Originally posted by chico2663
      dude a semi auto against a hand gun is a death wish
      Then he took the wrong job.
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      • Booya711
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        • 12-20-11
        • 27329

        #4
        Originally posted by chico2663
        dude a semi auto against a hand gun is a death wish
        Jesus Chico....seriously....a handgun vs a semi auto is a better advantage than the students and teachers with nothing...security guard is a fukking coward like most liberals
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        • magaman
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          • 01-17-18
          • 1937

          #5
          Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
          Then he took the wrong job.
          agreed
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          • Fidel_CashFlow
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-03-12
            • 53970

            #6
            True , he could of slowly approached the gunfire
            took cover or shot from behind the shooter
            like literally took nomchances And emptied his clip in him
            Not as risky as you think if done right
            simce the shooter was unaware of anyone else with a weapon
            But yeah , scary and easier said than done
            bit, that’s what he was there for
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            • magaman
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              • 01-17-18
              • 1937

              #7
              Yes he has just a 9mm or maybe a 45 ACP in his holster... but I'm sure his car was near with a shotgun in the trunk.

              That is not the point. He was there for that exact reason, and he could not do it. Cops train with their sidearms, and I'm quite sure if he could get a line on the shooter he could squeeze of a few rounds before the perp could find the cop and return fire. You rely on your training and shoot him.

              I cannot say for sure unless I was in the situation, but I am as sure as I can be that I would be running into that school if I had a handgun on me. And after I managed to down him with a couple rounds I would walk up and empty my mag into him
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                He was scared to death and the killer was a sharp shooter
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                • jtoler
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                  • 12-17-13
                  • 30967

                  #9
                  Drip drop.
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                  • mngambler
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                    • 08-01-11
                    • 2890

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chico2663
                    dude a semi auto against a hand gun is a death wish
                    we are all so shocked that YOU'D be scared like a little liberal b*tch cowering in the corner waiting for the men to show up
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                    • DroopyDog
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-03-16
                      • 1255

                      #11
                      Most police officers are cowards. Thats why unarmed people get shot and killed, cuz cops are scared.
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                      • VeggieDog
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                        • 02-21-09
                        • 7214

                        #12
                        The NRA talking point says, "The government cannot protect us, yet there are people that want to disarm all law-abiding citizens."

                        Seems like they're correct. In this case it was, "The government WILL NOT protect us..."
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                        • bonusguy
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                          • 11-25-17
                          • 1785

                          #13
                          i always wondered the percentage of cops who wouldnt run into danger. probably 15% just wouldnt go when it came down to it
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                          • GUMMO77
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                            • 08-23-10
                            • 9294

                            #14
                            “taking a position” = cowering behind a wall
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                            • snapperman2
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                              • 08-19-10
                              • 2078

                              #15
                              It just shows how stupid Trump is when he advocates arming teachers to prevent school shootings. The teachers would be afraid to use the guns in an actual emergency, and students would get hold of the guns and use them for more school shootings.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                tough call here

                                Who knows what any of us would of done

                                Easy to say from behind keyboard
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                                • Fidel_CashFlow
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-03-12
                                  • 53970

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  tough call here

                                  Who knows what any of us would of done

                                  Easy to say from behind keyboard
                                  Well the guilt alone hearing innocent kids being slaughtered
                                  would propel 90 percent of us to run in
                                  even if we bitched out initially
                                  I know for a fact I would of ran in , even if only armed with a water pistol
                                  but that’s why I’m prolly banged the fukk up so badly with so much trauma
                                  no way would I be able to live with myself if I didn’t ,
                                  especially if I was getting paid for it
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                                  • guitarjosh
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                                    • 12-25-07
                                    • 5797

                                    #18
                                    So the FBI dropped the ball, the Broward County Sheriff's Dept dropped the ball, and this "security guard" dropped the ball. Even more reason to be armed.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      I get it but men who knows when your there

                                      He could of been fukkin scared and ended up killing someone else on a miss fire

                                      I would think he knew guy had semi..now do not forget this kid was an expert shooter also
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                                      • VeggieDog
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                                        • 02-21-09
                                        • 7214

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        I get it but men who knows when your there

                                        He could of been fukkin scared and ended up killing someone else on a miss fire

                                        I would think he knew guy had semi..now do not forget this kid was an expert shooter also
                                        Stop defending a pussy. You're better than that.
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                                        • Fidel_CashFlow
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-03-12
                                          • 53970

                                          #21
                                          And I agree it is dif when you are there
                                          but from past experiences and that “ummphh” inside of me tells
                                          me that I woulda personally went in there to try to end it
                                          You maybe being the sole person to stop a massacre happening
                                          families forever ruined , and with a badge and gun on you and the time to
                                          sneak up on the shooter slowly ....that officer should be in more trouble
                                          then just having to step down
                                          imcouldnt look at my own kids if I knew what I knew about myself
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                                          • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                            • 04-04-11
                                            • 37448

                                            #22
                                            Remember that movie "Colors" starring Sean Penn + Robert Duvall?

                                            REminds me of that movie. If veteran cop is days away from retirement...might just mail it in. Why risk death...when a sweet retirement is days away?
                                            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                            • slambam
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                                              • 02-07-10
                                              • 1653

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              tough call here

                                              Who knows what any of us would of done

                                              Easy to say from behind keyboard
                                              Yep. It's easy to say, but tough to sling mud never being in that situation. Anybody who saw the video inside the classroom could hear how loud those shots were. Sounded like a fukking bazooka. Going in with no protection was a death wish. Odds are it woulda ended the same, except with one more casualty.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                How long has this guy been on the force?

                                                How old is he?

                                                Any video of this scene???
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                                                • bonusguy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-25-17
                                                  • 1785

                                                  #25
                                                  tough call he doesnt know if its 5 al-qaeda fighters and he has a .01% chance to survive. but thats the job you pussy
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                                                  • jjgold
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                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    no idea of protocol there

                                                    Does anyone know?
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                                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                      • 04-04-11
                                                      • 37448

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      no idea of protocol there

                                                      Does anyone know?
                                                      Yes, asshole, he's supposed to protect the kids.
                                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                      • xKMACKx
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                                                        • 11-16-08
                                                        • 1274

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        no idea of protocol there

                                                        Does anyone know?
                                                        The old protocol before Columbine was to do what he did. The new protocol is to go in and find the shooter.
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                                                        • JIBBBY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83686

                                                          #29
                                                          Not everyone is a hero when facing a bump stock AR-15 rapid fire..

                                                          When kids lives are at stake and they are getting blasted I think you do have try to do something if you are armed and in law enforcement.. I'd have try and probably die myself to try and save kids.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            almost every guy would not go in and most cops would not go in by themselves

                                                            It was a war zone and a death trap

                                                            The only thing maybe he could of did was fire wild shots from behind something

                                                            NOBODY KNOWS WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF THERE
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                                                            • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                              • 04-04-11
                                                              • 37448

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              almost every guy would not go in and most cops would not go in by themselves

                                                              It was a war zone and a death trap

                                                              The only thing maybe he could of did was fire wild shots from behind something

                                                              NOBODY KNOWS WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF THERE
                                                              saloon this post
                                                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                              • JIBBBY
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 83686

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                almost every guy would not go in and most cops would not go in by themselves

                                                                It was a war zone and a death trap

                                                                The only thing maybe he could of did was fire wild shots from behind something

                                                                NOBODY KNOWS WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF THERE
                                                                Maybe you do wait for back up, but if you hear kids getting shot and dying I think you gotta go in and try or just check it out if you are in any form of law enforcement and armed yourself..

                                                                IDK?? I wasn't there and in the same situation.. There is confusion, you don't exactly know what is going on. It's a tough call I guess.

                                                                I'm trying to imagine it all going down, no one expects it, no one thinks this could happen either.. There is a stunned and shock factor to consider as well..
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                                                                • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-03-12
                                                                  • 53970

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Jjgold isn’t listening

                                                                  yes there are many that you could say would not know

                                                                  there are also many who would not think twice about it

                                                                  even if not armed or not a police officer

                                                                  not everyone is you jjgold , appreciate the honesty though
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                                                                  • magaman
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-17-18
                                                                    • 1937

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    almost every guy would not go in and most cops would not go in by themselves

                                                                    It was a war zone and a death trap

                                                                    The only thing maybe he could of did was fire wild shots from behind something

                                                                    NOBODY KNOWS WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF THERE
                                                                    All joking aside... you are making an ass of yourself JJ.

                                                                    I'm sure that most armed men would most definitely go in there to try to help kids being slaughtered. You just exposed yourself... and your numerous posts in the past about hating guns... somebody rip up this guys man card. Ridiculous
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                                                                    • thechaoz
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-23-09
                                                                      • 12154

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                      True , he could of slowly approached the gunfire
                                                                      took cover or shot from behind the shooter
                                                                      like literally took nomchances And emptied his clip in him
                                                                      Not as risky as you think if done right
                                                                      simce the shooter was unaware of anyone else with a weapon
                                                                      But yeah , scary and easier said than done
                                                                      bit, that’s what he was there for
                                                                      This. So many different ways to flank the shooter. He could of approached slowly from a blind position and AT LEAST saved some of the kids. This is the first I've heard of an armed officer being at the school. This is unacceptable if true.
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