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  • Fidel_CashFlow
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-03-12
    • 53970

    #281
    Are ppl really in still here questioning the others who say without a doubt
    they would of went in (if armed) and possibly not even armed
    and strategically tried to stop kids getting slaughtered
    fukking unreal , we are not talking about what YOU would do
    we are saying in all honesty without a doubt what WE would do

    Fukk I hate being like this but it’s so true
    sometimes I really do feel like ive been through more fukked up situations
    than just about any 5 posters combined here
    I know without a shadow of doubt what I would of attempted to do
    and believe the others who say they would of as well

    WTF is is so hard about believing this
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    • Fidel_CashFlow
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-03-12
      • 53970

      #282
      Look at these people, almost every single one of them look like legit kind people

      A few of them gave their lives up while not even armed to protect others


      and people in here trying to tell others they wouldn’t do what they say they know

      they would of done if they was armed ...... GTFO here with that shit



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      • Kermit
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 09-27-10
        • 32555

        #283
        Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
        Look at these people, almost every single one of them look like legit kind people

        A few of them gave their lives up while not even armed to protect others


        and people in here trying to tell others they wouldn’t do what they say they know

        they would of done if they was armed ...... GTFO here with that shit


        I am the guy who runs across highway traffic to save someone who was in a car crash without thinking twice about my own life.

        But I don't know exactly what the situation was like at that school that day when the shooting happened. And now they are saying more cops were there while the shooting was happening? How did they get there so fast if the shooting only lasted 6 minutes? If all of those cops were sitting outside while gunfire was taking place, then fukk those guys.
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        • magaman
          SBR MVP
          • 01-17-18
          • 1937

          #284
          Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
          Look at these people, almost every single one of them look like legit kind people

          A few of them gave their lives up while not even armed to protect others


          and people in here trying to tell others they wouldn’t do what they say they know

          they would of done if they was armed ...... GTFO here with that shit



          I'm with you and the majority are with you on that.

          There are only a few that will pound the table to resist. They cannot allow you nor I or anybody to believe that WE are our own best defense. They need you to beleive you need the government for protection.

          I would not be right behind you going in that school locked and loaded, I would be way in front of a fat fuk like you... No doubt in my mind.

          Now it is time once again for some anonymous person that does not know me to correct me with their version of what my thoughts are lol
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          • Fidel_CashFlow
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-03-12
            • 53970

            #285
            Magaman , you had me laughing man
            you talking bout my avatar
            glad we agree though
            and Kermit , I understand if others wouldn’t to in ,maybe even if armed
            bit of your job is a sworn in police officer
            who is armed.... and you stand put
            dif story,ya know
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            • Goatman
              SBR High Roller
              • 06-27-17
              • 166

              #286
              Wtf does this nonsense about the dangerous and murderous United States have to do with sports betting? Move this shite to the shite hole saloon!
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              • The Kraken
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 12-25-11
                • 28918

                #287
                Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
                Are ppl really in still here questioning the others who say without a doubt
                they would of went in (if armed) and possibly not even armed
                and strategically tried to stop kids getting slaughtered
                fukking unreal , we are not talking about what YOU would do
                we are saying in all honesty without a doubt what WE would do

                Fukk I hate being like this but it’s so true
                sometimes I really do feel like ive been through more fukked up situations
                than just about any 5 posters combined here
                I know without a shadow of doubt what I would of attempted to do
                and believe the others who say they would of as well

                WTF is is so hard about believing this
                Typical internet post.

                Those of us that have been through this are telling those of you that haven’t that you don’t know what it’s like until you’ve been there. You’d run in and save the day but where would you even run to? Ok, so run towards the kids that are running away and you realize all kids are running in all different directions. So you’re told the shooting was at the football field but maybe also that it was inside. Gunshots are unreliable, you can’t pin those down.

                Main point here is that you have no clue what you do and even if you were all full of piss and vinegar you likely would just run circles and never have found the shooter.
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                • Fidel_CashFlow
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-03-12
                  • 53970

                  #288
                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                  Typical internet post.

                  Those of us that have been through this are telling those of you that haven’t that you don’t know what it’s like until you’ve been there. You’d run in and save the day but where would you even run to? Ok, so run towards the kids that are running away and you realize all kids are running in all different directions. So you’re told the shooting was at the football field but maybe also that it was inside. Gunshots are unreliable, you can’t pin those down.

                  Main point here is that you have no clue what you do and even if you were all full of piss and vinegar you likely would just run circles and never have found the shooter.
                  Post has nothing to do with the internet

                  Its just the Internet was the only way I could tell you what I would of done

                  Those that have been through this ???? Ok I’ll admit I have never been through a school
                  shooting but that doesn’t change the fact of what I know I’d do
                  I’ve been in highly volatile situations FAR too many times and ALWAYS
                  reacted, Kraken .

                  ALWAYS

                  And unless we are in an anechoic chamber the sounds that a
                  AR-15 make would def help me pinpoint the shooters location
                  (who btw wasn’t a Navy Seal) ..... not saying I’d save all the kids
                  but you bet your ass I’d get a chance to empty a clip
                  (cuz remember ...I’m an armed police officer who is paid to do this )
                  In the mother fukker who’s walking through the classrooms shooting at unarmed kids

                  Btw, you have been through a school shooting type scenario

                  Becaise the way you worded that , it is what you are alluding to
                  and even if you have you still can’t tell me or anyone else
                  what the hell we would of done man.
                  Maybe the execution wouldn’t be perfect , but once again
                  don’t tell someone else what they would or would not do
                  until you have walked in their shoes or gathered a very in depth profile in that person

                  That’s my whole point in all this
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                  • The Kraken
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-25-11
                    • 28918

                    #289
                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                    Stay in your lane Kraken and don't judge others.. Like I said you don't know me..

                    Sounds like you wanna make every excuse in the book for some MEN not to try and go in and save kids from being shot to death.. Like I said Coaches and Janitors were unarmed and died trying to save the kids...

                    Those are the true hero's in that school shooting!!!! The Cops are the chicken shits that did nothing!!!! The shooter walked out there with other kids and got away even for a time.. It's a focking joke and kids died..

                    Arm that janitor and coach and they stop probably stop this shooter.. YES ARM TEACHERS that are responsible like Trump said.. That helps..
                    Dunning-Kruger
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                    • The Kraken
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-25-11
                      • 28918

                      #290
                      Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
                      Post has nothing to do with the internet

                      Its just the Internet was the only way I could tell you what I would of done

                      Those that have been through this ???? Ok I’ll admit I have never been through a school
                      shooting but that doesn’t change the fact of what I know I’d do
                      I’ve been in highly volatile situations FAR too many times and ALWAYS
                      reacted, Kraken .

                      ALWAYS

                      And unless we are in an anechoic chamber the sounds that a
                      AR-15 make would def help me pinpoint the shooters location
                      (who btw wasn’t a Navy Seal) ..... not saying I’d save all the kids
                      but you bet your ass I’d get a chance to empty a clip
                      (cuz remember ...I’m an armed police officer who is paid to do this )
                      In the mother fukker who’s walking through the classrooms shooting at unarmed kids

                      Btw, you have been through a school shooting type scenario
                      and even if you have you still can’t tell me or anyone else
                      what the hell we would of done man.
                      Maybe the execution wouldn’t be perfect , but once again
                      don’t tell someone else what they would or would not do
                      until you have walked in their shoes or gathered a very in depth profile in that person

                      That’s my whole point in all this
                      Don’t think i don’t understand your point, I get it. I know what I would do as well.

                      Honestly I started out just ribbing Jibby. My main point wasn’t necessarily meant to tell you or Jibby what you would do, but to do whatever you think you would do is much harder than you realize.

                      The shooting didn’t last long, you see kids running everywhere and you’re told there is a shooting outside on the football field, are there multiple shooters, etc.... That alone could easily cause enough confusion to delay you getting to the shooter in the 5-6 minutes it took him before he takes off.

                      Had this happened right in front of him I have little doubt he would have reacted. Unfortunately it didn’t
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                      • Fidel_CashFlow
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-03-12
                        • 53970

                        #291
                        Yeah man , this random killing shit just makes my blood boil
                        To think some useless fukk can ruin the outcomes of hundreds of people’s lives
                        because it wasn’t just 17victims that day , it was hundreds and hundreds
                        because their family members lives will never be the same either
                        Id relish the opportunity to be there to attempt to stop some piece of shit
                        from having the opportunity to cause so much random heartache
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                        • JIBBBY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83686

                          #292
                          In wake of this shooting and the Vegas shooting I do think we need to come down hard on getting more and more illegal guns off the street, stop manufacturing the long riffles as well (ban them all), bump stocks out, and raise the legal age for sure.. I'm ok coming down on the NRA as well if they don't go for these things...

                          There are just too many guns in America.. These school and Vegas shootings are not gonna stop... We need to try and do everything to make it stop it or slow it down.. More restrictions and better screening sounds good to me for starters....
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                          • magaman
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-17-18
                            • 1937

                            #293
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            In wake of this shooting and the Vegas shooting I do think we need to come down hard on getting more and more illegal guns off the street, stop manufacturing the long riffles as well (ban them all), bump stocks out, and raise the legal age for sure.. I'm ok coming down on the NRA as well if they don't go for these things...

                            There are just too many guns in America.. These school and Vegas shootings are not gonna stop... We need to try and do everything to make it stop it or slow it down.. More restrictions and better screening sounds good to me for starters....
                            So you would be in favor of more government oversight and restrictions regarding firearms, when the existing oversight and restrictions should have and could have stopped any number of these mass killings. Seems reasonable.
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                            • JIBBBY
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 83686

                              #294
                              Originally posted by magaman
                              So you would be in favor of more government oversight and restrictions regarding firearms, when the existing oversight and restrictions should have and could have stopped any number of these mass killings. Seems reasonable.
                              Yes, I'd like to less guns on the streets and less being manufactured. I'm not saying taking away guns from responsible owners but just stopping the gun onslaught.. Yes more regulations I'm in favor of.. I'm a gun owner as well..

                              Times are changing, rules need changing.. Too many shootings going on.. Something needs to be done.. Further gun control and stiffer regulations I could absolutely live with.. Harsher crime penalties for thugs that are caught with illegal guns on the street I'd really like to see..

                              I'm also in favor of arming more of the good guys in society. Conceal permits..
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                              • Art Vandelay
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-11-06
                                • 6690

                                #295
                                Jibbby is right about the amount of guns. For example, England addressed their "number of guns" issue over the last decade or so. Here are the current numbers:

                                England - Guns per 100 citizens = 6
                                USA - Guns per 100 citizens = 88

                                The numbers don't lie!
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                                • mrpapageorgio
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-07-17
                                  • 2974

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                  In wake of this shooting and the Vegas shooting I do think we need to come down hard on getting more and more illegal guns off the street, stop manufacturing the long riffles as well (ban them all), bump stocks out, and raise the legal age for sure.. I'm ok coming down on the NRA as well if they don't go for these things...

                                  There are just too many guns in America.. These school and Vegas shootings are not gonna stop... We need to try and do everything to make it stop it or slow it down.. More restrictions and better screening sounds good to me for starters....
                                  Why does it always seem when there's talk about more gun laws, it's always restricting a civilian's right to carry? That's why the NRA and their supporters are always steadfast in opposing any gun control law, because the gun control supporters don't offer a carrot to the NRA in return for the gun control laws. How about supporting national reciprocity as part of the gun control proposals if you want to try to either get the NRA on board, or on their heels? It's hard to say the NRA refuses to compromise when you don't offer them anything in return and your proposal is essentially, "Give us a slice of cake, and if you refuse, we'll try to take the whole cake".
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                                  • magaman
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-17-18
                                    • 1937

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                    Yes, I'd like to less guns on the streets and less being manufactured. I'm not saying taking away guns from responsible owners but just stopping the gun onslaught.. Yes more regulations I'm in favor of.. I'm a gun owner as well..

                                    Times are changing, rules need changing.. Too many shootings going on.. Something needs to be done.. Further gun control and stiffer regulations I could absolutely live with.. Harsher crime penalties for thugs that are caught with illegal guns on the street I'd really like to see..

                                    I'm also in favor of arming more of the good guys in society. Conceal permits..
                                    Perhaps you missed my point... the government is to blame for these blunders. Why give them more laws to screw up? Solves nothing... meanwhile good citizens are the victim.
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                                    • JIBBBY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83686

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by magaman
                                      Perhaps you missed my point... the government is to blame for these blunders. Why give them more laws to screw up? Solves nothing... meanwhile good citizens are the victim.
                                      I read ya.. We all have to make sacrifices, times are changing.. I love my gun don't get me wrong.. We just don't need more and more gun battles in the streets, we need less.. We don't need Assault riffles in cities and populated areas as they serve no real purpose in society... Less guns in America less gun battles.. It's just common sense..

                                      Government and law enforcement can't stop all the wacko's.. Making it harder to get guns can help.. I'm convinced.. Slow the roll...
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                                      • HurryUpAndDrink
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 08-23-13
                                        • 13017

                                        #299
                                        Sad stuff.

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                                        • Grits n' Gravy
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 13024

                                          #300
                                          In summary, cops are pussies.....FACT
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                                          • Mac4Lyfe
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-04-09
                                            • 48383

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by magaman
                                            Perhaps you missed my point... the government is to blame for these blunders. Why give them more laws to screw up? Solves nothing... meanwhile good citizens are the victim.
                                            Who is the government??? The government is ALL of us. We all are to blame. It's that sick fukkks fault for sure but guns are a problem, parenting is a problem, mental health is a problem, diet and exercise is a problem, etc., etc. Eliminating one of the problems is not going to stop every incident but we need to take small bites of this elephant a bit at a time. I like Jibbby am convinced that we have too many damn guns in the US. Common sense tells me less guns = less guns used. I own a gun for one reason only? Because too many sick fukks that have guns as well. If no one had a gun, I wouldn't need one. This country has got to reduce the amount of guns. We have more guns than people. That's fukkkked up and nothing to be proud of.
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                                            • Fidel_CashFlow
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-03-12
                                              • 53970

                                              #302
                                              Thread makes me sad
                                              and even sadder because realistically shit like this will never cease
                                              no matter what we do , it all comes down to a critical flaw in the human mind
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61668

                                                #303
                                                I saw President Trump say he would have run into the firing line to save those kids even without a gun.

                                                Brave man.
                                                .
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                                                • mrpapageorgio
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-07-17
                                                  • 2974

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                  Who is the government??? The government is ALL of us. We all are to blame.

                                                  Bull****, I wasn't the one that was called 40+ times being told this guy was a problem. I didn't get tipped off twice that this guy was a danger to others. If I had gone and done something myself, then I'd be locked up for taking the law into my own hands. But in exchange for not being allowed to be a vigilante, we give power to law enforcement and expect them to do their job. Instead, this department and agency (FBI) abused the power given to them by sitting on their ass and doing nothing and now you want to excuse their (in)action by passing the buck and saying it's everyone's failure.

                                                  Maybe instead of giving participation trophies and trying to make everything a collective effort, we start actually holding individual people we give power to accountable and expecting people to do their jobs and not passing the buck elsewhere when someone doesn't do their job.
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                                                  • HockeyRocks
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-10-13
                                                    • 6069

                                                    #305
                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    I saw President Trump say he would have run into the firing line to save those kids even without a gun.

                                                    Brave man.
                                                    Trump LIES a lot....
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                                                    • Thor4140
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-09-08
                                                      • 22296

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                      I saw President Trump say he would have run into the firing line to save those kids even without a gun.

                                                      Brave man.
                                                      Nobody could possibly be this stupid and believe this. He has told some whopper of lies but this one could be his biggest. The guy has openly said he feints at the site of blood but now has become a cowboy and is gonna save the day. The guy coward when it was his turn to fight for the country but now he is a super hero ready to take down shooters LMFAO. Optional u have to be trolling here.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 61668

                                                        #307
                                                        I was just saying what I saw Thor.

                                                        Man in his 70s but still like a tiger!

                                                        Able to subdue evil villains with his bare hands.

                                                        So brave it brings a lump to my throat.
                                                        .
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                                                        • maggiethebestdog
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-21-13
                                                          • 6700

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by Optional
                                                          I was just saying what I saw Thor.

                                                          Man in his 70s but still like a tiger!

                                                          Able to subdue evil villains with his bare hands.

                                                          So brave it brings a lump to my throat.
                                                          He could have done it because he is bulletproof
                                                          Duhhh!!!!!
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                                                          • Thor4140
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-09-08
                                                            • 22296

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                                            I was just saying what I saw Thor.

                                                            Man in his 70s but still like a tiger!

                                                            Able to subdue evil villains with his bare hands.

                                                            So brave it brings a lump to my throat.
                                                            That third line in your rebuttal? Was that plagered from a super hero? Maybe Superman.
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 61668

                                                              #310
                                                              I don't really have to say I was not being serious do I?
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                                                              • TheMoneyShot
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 02-14-07
                                                                • 28672

                                                                #311
                                                                Didn't read any of this thread... first time clicking on it.

                                                                We still talking about the deputy?

                                                                100% agree.... deputy should of done something to help. Don't take the job... if you aren't going to get dirty.

                                                                I don't even know what this deputy looks like... or read any news articles about him... but I will say this...

                                                                You know what I picture in my head about him???

                                                                Reminds me of some dude who looks like Jared sitting in his car... eating a subway sandwich while the sound of gun fire is in the air... and this fukking guy is still eating and chewing away.

                                                                Fukking low life.
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                                                                • Thor4140
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-09-08
                                                                  • 22296

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                                  I don't really have to say I was not being serious do I?
                                                                  I know u are not being serious. We can move on now. Was just commenting on that third line.
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                                                                  • Thor4140
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-09-08
                                                                    • 22296

                                                                    #313
                                                                    What we have found out in this thread. The security guard was a pussy and Trump voter. The gunman who killed all the kids was a big Trump guy. Did i leave anything out? Oh and like a true hypocritical pussy Republican,Trump said if he was there he would have run in and saved the day LMFAO. Just like Bush would have. Just like Cheney would have. Just like Hannity would have. Heck u can even throw in Bill Clinton. All pussies.
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                                                                    • kidcudi92
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-14-11
                                                                      • 15434

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      I don't really have to say I was not being serious do I?
                                                                      Thor can’t be reasoned with.

                                                                      Mentally ill

                                                                      All good opti
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                                                                      • Thor4140
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 02-09-08
                                                                        • 22296

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by kidcudi92
                                                                        Thor can’t be reasoned with.

                                                                        Mentally ill

                                                                        All good opti
                                                                        What we know for a fact is that 99 percent of Republicans wouldn't do shit but talk a good game. All of you would have run away just like the garbage you vote for.
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