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  • JIBBBY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-10-09
    • 83686

    #211
    If you are cop and armed and you know kids are getting blasted and slaughtered you gotta go in and try and stop the shooter.. I'm sure most don't want to, most are afraid maybe, you're out out gunned, but you do have the element of surprise and you will be going in from behind the shooter..

    At a minimum you have to atleast get close enough to see what's going on and if you have a clean shot.. Your life is on the line but that's why you took the job...

    Coward cop. It happens...
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    • magaman
      SBR MVP
      • 01-17-18
      • 1937

      #212
      Originally posted by JIBBBY
      If you are cop and armed and you know kids are getting blasted and slaughtered you gotta go in and try and stop the shooter.. I'm sure most don't want to, most are afraid maybe, you're out out gunned, but you do have the element of surprise and you will be going in from behind the shooter..

      At a minimum you have to atleast get close enough to see what's going on and if you have a clean shot.. Your life is on the line but that's why you took the job...

      Coward cop. It happens...
      There is plenty more to this story... still more to learn. It turns out there was one guy, then 3 more deputies for a total of 4 Brower County cops all standing outside positioned behind their cars weapons drawn. None of them were making any attempt to move on the shooter. Internet rumors saying it might have been direct orders from sheriff. There is more to learn here... that idiot sheriff has some splaining to do.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #213
        The Sheriff blaming everyone else but himself

        He has to go to
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        • HurryUpAndDrink
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-23-13
          • 13017

          #214
          Originally posted by magaman
          There is plenty more to this story... still more to learn. It turns out there was one guy, then 3 more deputies for a total of 4 Brower County cops all standing outside positioned behind their cars weapons drawn. None of them were making any attempt to move on the shooter. Internet rumors saying it might have been direct orders from sheriff. There is more to learn here... that idiot sheriff has some splaining to do.
          Yep, even Ben Shapiro is blowing the lid on this and we all know he ain't a conspiracy theory fan AT ALL.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #215
            This whole tragedy got to political
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            • Thor4140
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-09-08
              • 22296

              #216
              Originally posted by JIBBBY
              This Deputy that did nothing is getting ripped a new ass in the media.. Even Trump called him out this morning for not doing anything... This coward better go into hiding quick...
              Ole bone spurs who ran from the draft on numerous occasions is calling this guy out? Priceless.
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              • BOA12
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-19-12
                • 20622

                #217
                Originally posted by Thor4140
                Ole bone spurs who ran from the draft on numerous occasions is calling this guy out? Priceless.
                This guy makes don look good, for the moment
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                • BOA12
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-19-12
                  • 20622

                  #218
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  This whole tragedy got to political
                  What you call smoke and mirrors-the plan of the Right to divide US and make hate popular again(good people on both sides need assault rifles) and rile their base(Why is it always white Christians?). They are experts, don't care if you are for or against. They always win.
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                  • cincinnatikid513
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 11-23-17
                    • 45360

                    #219
                    here's the coward who was scared to go in looks like a smug a hole


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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #220
                      everyone assuming guy was going to be rambo and solve the whole thing with little damage
                      It proves being armed does nothing and I have been saying this for years just because your armed does not mean your going to draw and be a tough guy

                      MOST WILL NOT

                      I AM A NOTCH SMARTER THAN MOST HERE
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                      • brooks85
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-05-09
                        • 44709

                        #221
                        no surprise, cops are liberal scum and don't give a shit about you.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #222
                          Originally posted by brooks85
                          no surprise, cops are liberal scum and don't give a shit about you.
                          Brooksy it takes a special person to draw a gun and fire in a real killer type situation regardless of the party

                          Yes some will be heroes but many will not

                          Who knows maybe behind a keyboard some of us are pussies but if we were in a real life situation we would be the opposite

                          Nobody knows how you will react at that moment
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                          • HurryUpAndDrink
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-23-13
                            • 13017

                            #223
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Brooksy it takes a special person to draw a gun and fire in a real killer type situation regardless of the party

                            Yes some will be heroes but many will not

                            Who knows maybe behind a keyboard some of us are pussies but if we were in a real life situation we would be the opposite

                            Nobody knows how you will react at that moment
                            That said who the fukk signs up to be a cop, a firefighter or a marine if you don't enjoy the rush of situations like this??? Guy has probably never been in a similar firefight, but this is the main reason we need a police force... so you are telling me this guy has been a cop for 30+ years and finally his time to shine came in and he chickened out??? and why are we talking 1 cop, most sources now claim as much as 4 cops were hiding/staying back cause of sheriff orders... sheriff needs to come clean not to make his boys look bad period...

                            Stop making excuses for this bullshit and stop blaming the guns seriously...the inaction of the authorities pre and during the attack is the main enabler here... 95%
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                            • Ph q all
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-18-17
                              • 705

                              #224
                              Here's what is wrong...most of you momos are more than likely to young to remember a time when a police officer couldn't even apply for a job unless he met certain height and weight standards. Then one day some lonely housewife decided women shouldn't be the only ones to raise kids and decided it was time to be equal with their male counterparts. The problem with that is we aren't equal. Women are very good at doing certain things and the same goes for men, however we are not equal. Anyway this ignorant house wife, probably a Democrat to boot, decided to apply for the police force and was turned down because she did not meet the height requirement of 6 foot or greater. So she decided to sue and a whole bunch of women jumped on board with her and the by-product of that is some worthless pos standing outside of a school while kids inside are getting massacred.

                              Gone are the days where the best person for the job is hired. And now you're seeing a rash of police shootings because cops are so afraid of their own damn shadows and it all goes back to that lonely housewife. Im pro police however the majority of the men in blue are weak. But the police need to have a certain amount of blacks, whites, Mexicans, women, gays or the municipality gets sued...let's not blame the coward that didn't enter the school. Blame the phuckin liberals for having these BS affirmative action laws in place. The best man or woman for the job...regardless of color.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #225
                                Guys sign up to be firemen and cops for the salary and pensions and health benefits nothing more now the military is a whole different ballgame those guys are winners and heroes and fighters
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                                • HockeyRocks
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-10-13
                                  • 6069

                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by Ph q all
                                  Here's what is wrong...most of you momos are more than likely to young to remember a time when a police officer couldn't even apply for a job unless he met certain height and weight standards. Then one day some lonely housewife decided women shouldn't be the only ones to raise kids and decided it was time to be equal with their male counterparts. The problem with that is we aren't equal. Women are very good at doing certain things and the same goes for men, however we are not equal. Anyway this ignorant house wife, probably a Democrat to boot, decided to apply for the police force and was turned down because she did not meet the height requirement of 6 foot or greater. So she decided to sue and a whole bunch of women jumped on board with her and the by-product of that is some worthless pos standing outside of a school while kids inside are getting massacred.

                                  Gone are the days where the best person for the job is hired. And now you're seeing a rash of police shootings because cops are so afraid of their own damn shadows and it all goes back to that lonely housewife. Im pro police however the majority of the men in blue are weak. But the police need to have a certain amount of blacks, whites, Mexicans, women, gays or the municipality gets sued...let's not blame the coward that didn't enter the school. Blame the phuckin liberals for having these BS affirmative action laws in place. The best man or woman for the job...regardless of color.
                                  HUH????
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                                  • SEKTAUR
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-04-11
                                    • 802

                                    #227
                                    This idiot sheriff Israel wants to take our guns away. riiiight because him and his deputies can protect us lol what a fukking joke.
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                                    • magaman
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-17-18
                                      • 1937

                                      #228
                                      JJ Gold : Cops are inherently worthless in the time of need because they primarily take this job for the salary and pension.


                                      Does anybody agree with this? I don't.

                                      This particular incident is the first that I can recall in a very long time where the cops selfishly did not act to help. I can think of hundreds of times that cops did act knowing their lives were in play.

                                      So JJ has a bias against cops... no problem many do. If I lived in NJ my whole life I would also likely have a similar view.
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                                      • SEKTAUR
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-04-11
                                        • 802

                                        #229
                                        but at least we know why the FBI was too busy to bother stopping this psycho... they’d rather chase down russian bots.
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                                        • Ph q all
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-18-17
                                          • 705

                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                          HUH????
                                          pay attention son...you just might learn something.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #231
                                            Some cops dedicated of course

                                            But nowadays so hard to get good jobs and bennies so law enforcement coveted
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                                            • JMobile
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-21-10
                                              • 19074

                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by mrpapageorgio
                                              No he wasn't, he was the first responder to an active shooter in progress. Current protocol dictates when there is an active shooter, you are supposed to go in and stop the shooting. Period! You don't set up incident command or any other post until the active shooting threat is neutralized if you are the first responder.
                                              Do you have a source on this?
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                                              • cincinnatikid513
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 11-23-17
                                                • 45360

                                                #233
                                                story gets worse not only did scot peterson wait outside 3 other deputies did not go in school yup a bunch of cowards
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                                                • cincinnatikid513
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 11-23-17
                                                  • 45360

                                                  #234
                                                  failures all around

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                                                  • HockeyRocks
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-10-13
                                                    • 6069

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by Ph q all
                                                    pay attention son...you just might learn something.
                                                    Sorry Chump, the only thing you taught me from your comments is that your a racist bigot...
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                                                    • Bluehorseshoe
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-13-06
                                                      • 15003

                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                                      no surprise, cops are liberal scum and don't give a shit about you.
                                                      Cops are liberal??
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                                                      • mrpapageorgio
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-07-17
                                                        • 2974

                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by JMobile
                                                        Do you have a source on this?
                                                        I would say the training I've attended, but since I know you're going to complain and say not good enough, here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b75635f95364

                                                        In American policing, confronting active shooters is divided into two eras: before Columbine, and after Columbine. Before the 1999 shooting at Columbine High School in Colorado, police strategy was to wait for the SWAT team to arrive and then attack en masse with precise force. But after the two shooters in Columbine roamed the school for nearly 50 minutes, killing 13 and wounding 21, the police approach changed: Enter now. Whoever is there with a gun, whether a school resource officer or the first patrol officer to arrive, should go after the shooter.
                                                        “We teach that the first priority when you come on scene is to stop the killing,” said Pete Blair, executive director of the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center at Texas State University and one of the nation’s top experts on active shooter training. “The number one driving force is gunfire. If there’s gunfire, we teach the officers to isolate, distract and neutralize. We want people to go directly to the sounds of the gunfire.”
                                                        And for good measure, if you don't trust the Washington Post. Here's a scholarly article saying the same thing: https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publicatio...aspx?ID=240814

                                                        Now are you going to finally STFU with your BS on this matter, whether it be about needing incident command posts before entering or comparing this to a robbery and waiting for backup, or are you going to keep trying to tell people this deputy did the right thing by not engaging the shooter contrary to what the experts have been teaching law enforcement post Columbine?
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                                                        • Grits n' Gravy
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 13024

                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          He was scared to death and the killer was a sharp shooter
                                                          The murderer was a 19 year old kid with limited life skills vs a trained deputy.

                                                          Good thing there was armed officers on school campus to stop the massacre.
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                                                          • HurryUpAndDrink
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 08-23-13
                                                            • 13017

                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                            The murderer was a 19 year old kid with limited life skills vs a trained deputy.

                                                            Good thing there was armed officers on school campus to stop the massacre.
                                                            +1

                                                            JFC... JJ stop the trolling pal, have pancakes with Mayela
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                                                            • magaman
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-17-18
                                                              • 1937

                                                              #240
                                                              JJ is personally invested in this topic and he does not have a clue about anything about law enforcement, guns, nor shooting tactics.

                                                              He keeps shooting from the hip simply because he does not like guns. Shameful
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #241
                                                                You guys don’t know what you’re talking about there is a difference with combat accuracy vs shooting range accuracy

                                                                This kid might’ve been better than the cop in real life situation you don’t know everybody’s different just like in sports handling pressure
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                                                                • mrpapageorgio
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-07-17
                                                                  • 2974

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  You guys don’t know what you’re talking about there is a difference with combat accuracy vs shooting range accuracy

                                                                  This kid might’ve been better than the cop in real life situation you don’t know everybody’s different just like in sports handling pressure
                                                                  All things being equal, I would highly disagree considering I would rather have a mature mind under high stress than an immature mind that's also nuts.

                                                                  That being said, the officer's cowardice may be an equalizer if he was forced to confront the shooter anyway. Had he had the same cajones as the football coach, I would bet the officer every time.
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #243
                                                                    Good stuff men

                                                                    Actually civil discussion
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                                      • 83686

                                                                      #244
                                                                      I guarantee if any of those chicken shiiiit cops had their own kid in the school at the time they would have charged in guns a blazing..

                                                                      That's is something to consider..

                                                                      These cops just didn't care about the kids that much.. Selfish and don't deserve to wear a badge... They knew what was going on.. They had to know kids were getting shot and killed...

                                                                      Law enforcement FAIL!!!!!
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                                                                      • magaman
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-17-18
                                                                        • 1937

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                        I guarantee if any of those chicken shiiiit cops had their own kid in the school at the time they would have charged in guns a blazing..

                                                                        That's is something to consider..

                                                                        These cops just didn't care about the kids that much.. Selfish and don't deserve to wear a badge... They knew what was going on.. They had to know kids were getting shot and killed...

                                                                        Law enforcement FAIL!!!!!
                                                                        I don't think we have uncovered the true reason yet... wait until it is reported that the deputies were ordered to stand down. Huge cover-up to this point.
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